NEW Crosman 362

[Firewalker]

+2 

I got the second 362 today, this one from Amazon, no outer box, she was kinda beat up, dirty and dusty, no free pellets, she looked naked and afraid. I picked her up and caressed her, pumped her up and fed her.

Just like all the gals I know, she went and shot her mouth off leaving a nice 10 shot group at 33 feet. She might be a loud mouth but I can change here, I swear! I got her a muzzle!

Her fancy little roommate, miss 811 with all her shiny triggers, steel breach and custom bolt handle, just "humphed" at her and stuck out her lever!

SO SNOTTY!

Poor little 941 showed her the target... NOW there is a full on fight for dominance, "Look at my glass, honey! I can hit a bullseye at 10m and all you got is a little tight group?"

I think that a full on cat fight is coming, these two beauties are going to have it out, shot for shot, just wait for momma to get a hold of these girls, she will put them to the test for sure!

 

[TerryM]

+1 Eddie
If I had to go someplace other than home to shoot my guns I wouldn't have them.

I am fortunate to live in a town where I can shoot air guns legally.  As long as all is contained and stays on my property, I'm good.  Countless thousands of rounds in the back yard the last 11 or so years.

[Bob Pratl]

+1 Eddie
If I had to go someplace other than home to shoot my guns I wouldn't have them.

I am fortunate to live in a town where I can shoot air guns legally.  As long as all is contained and stays on my property, I'm good.  Countless thousands of rounds in the back yard the last 11 or so years.

I also do not have a problem in shooting AG's in my backyard and my next door neighbor is s police officer
who is impressed with my AEA .30 HP .

[Keepingitsimple]

Not necessarily. The keywords here being 'nuisance and/or 'public health hazard'.

The other key words though, which may or may not apply to you, are:

"No birds may be controlled by any means considered illegal by local city or county ordinance."

If you're within the city of Fort Worth, it's illegal to shoot an air rifle unless you're on 10+ acres. 

It was a misinterpretation of the Migratory Bird Act in regard to grackles that started this particular topic.

Yes, its a class c misdemeanor to discharge an air rifle in the city limits as it is in most cities / towns throughout America. Your point being what exactly?

As you're treating class c misdemeanors as though they are felonies, I'll tell you what a local officer of the law told me. He said if a police officer see's you committing a class c misdemeanor then its illegal. If an officer of the law DOES NOT see you committing a class c misdemeanor then its not illegal.

Last year I met our local game warden. A friend of mine and I were fishing. A cottonmouth showed up swimming merrily along, not bothering anyone ... so I shot it with my .22 lego.

We hear footsteps. It's the game warden who likely witnessed me discharging an air rifle within city limits.
He checked our licenses, then as he turned around to leave said to me..."Nice Shot"!

[Wayne52]

I did twenty more shots with mine today up in the attic.
 

[pobilly527]

Interesting option for plastic breech if you have a 3d printer.
 Not mine found on 3dmixer.com

[avator]

I was surprised on the quality of the trigger housing and components, except for the plastic trigger blade.

Does this kit work without modification? https://www.ebay.com/itm/124117277847?hash=item1ce5f75c97:g:26wAAOSwGzZhT~te

Are there any other stainless or aluminum triggers that will drop in without modifications?

This is approaching the cost of the entire Marauder Gen 1 trigger assembly - $48.03 when I installed the same on a Maximus.

Granted;
- possible very recent price increase
- need a hammer without the wasp-waist contour
- trigger guard - cheap
- some recontour of the trigger area of the stock

I don't want to modify the stock, I would like the option to go back to OEM and I don't really have the right tools for that. If there are other triggers that will fit without modification and also cost less, I'm all ears!

I printed a few of these using a tough resin:



I'll print a half-dozen if fellows want to try it.

Mike T.
TKO

3 triggers came in the mail this morning. They look great but I'm not going to get a chance to try them out until tomorrow. I'll be on the road for around 5 hours today.
Thanks Mike.

[tennx]

I got 2 triggers but decided to pay them forward …thanks Mike..hope u dont mind…

[Wayne52]

Here's twenty shots for the day with the C362
 

[Bob Pratl]

Here's twenty shots for the day with the C362

Wayne, very nice groups. What did you do different than the groups that you shot this morning, or did the Java wear off?

[Wayne52]

Bob the mold that I cast the hunters with needed some tweeking and the results were better pellets that seem to be shooting real good.  They were varying in weight quite a bit before and not so much anymore.  I've cast thousands of the hunters from this mold and over time the pin bar's needed a little bending again to tighten things up.  Those are the groups that I shot this morning.  I might do a numbers target with it later maybe, I printed a bunch more different targets yesterday too.

[TKO22]

I was surprised on the quality of the trigger housing and components, except for the plastic trigger blade.

Does this kit work without modification? https://www.ebay.com/itm/124117277847?hash=item1ce5f75c97:g:26wAAOSwGzZhT~te

Are there any other stainless or aluminum triggers that will drop in without modifications?

This is approaching the cost of the entire Marauder Gen 1 trigger assembly - $48.03 when I installed the same on a Maximus.

Granted;
- possible very recent price increase
- need a hammer without the wasp-waist contour
- trigger guard - cheap
- some recontour of the trigger area of the stock

I don't want to modify the stock, I would like the option to go back to OEM and I don't really have the right tools for that. If there are other triggers that will fit without modification and also cost less, I'm all ears!

I printed a few of these using a tough resin:



I'll print a half-dozen if fellows want to try it.

Mike T.
TKO

3 triggers came in the mail this morning. They look great but I'm not going to get a chance to try them out until tomorrow. I'll be on the road for around 5 hours today.
Thanks Mike.

Take your time. I've heard back from 4 fellows so far.

One fellow received 2 but one was broken in shipping at the top of the trigger blade. A layer analysis of the cad file shows a stress riser at that point, which we fixed in the V4.2 trigger. Also, this could be very problematic if the gun were loaded and cocked and the blade broke off, either because the trigger was pulled hard with the safety on, bump, etc. Might be a trick to uncock the rifle.

One fellow suggested the blade be lengthened and pushed forward a bit, which I may change in a later file.

I sent multiples in hopes guys would maybe gently try to break it, but it looks like the top of the trigger blade right at the safety stop is going to be the weak spot with the V4.1.

[Firewalker]

I have installed the 4.1 trigger and played with the trigger return spring and bent the seer spring 7 degrees in order to get a 'hair trigger' for the 941.

The TKO trigger lends itself to hand sanding and shaping, I put a slight radius on the edges of the trigger blade then polished it with 400 grit paper to a satin luster so that when I touch the trigger blade, I dont feel any hot spots at all, just a nice even pressure against the pad on my fingertip.

I have the trigger releasing at 12oz, it feels great and I see no reason to go with the Baker brass trigger now.

I did have the trigger catch on the bump at the top of the trigger inside the housing that I had to trim off and I also had to sand off all the sprue bumps off the back (no biggy) and lubricate the pins due to zero lube used by Crosman in the assembly.

My wishlist includes a longer trigger and a little more curve at the bottom of the trigger so that my finger falls onto the sweet spot instead of sliding down to the end and back up 3-4 mm for the sweet spot placement.

I will be sending this to Mike as well.

[Spacebus]

Bob the mold that I cast the hunters with needed some tweeking and the results were better pellets that seem to be shooting real good.  They were varying in weight quite a bit before and not so much anymore.  I've cast thousands of the hunters from this mold and over time the pin bar's needed a little bending again to tighten things up.  Those are the groups that I shot this morning.  I might do a numbers target with it later maybe, I printed a bunch more different targets yesterday too.

I never thought to bend them. My .460 mold has pins that settle at different heights which is not great for slug consistency.

[Back_Roads]

Bob the mold that I cast the hunters with needed some tweeking and the results were better pellets that seem to be shooting real good.  They were varying in weight quite a bit before and not so much anymore.  I've cast thousands of the hunters from this mold and over time the pin bar's needed a little bending again to tighten things up.  Those are the groups that I shot this morning.  I might do a numbers target with it later maybe, I printed a bunch more different targets yesterday too.

I never thought to bend them. My .460 mold has pins that settle at different heights which is not great for slug consistency.

 Here is a how too even https://noebulletmolds.com/smf/index.php?topic=199.0

[Mickkk]

It was a misinterpretation of the Migratory Bird Act in regard to grackles that started this particular topic.

Yes, its a class c misdemeanor to discharge an air rifle in the city limits as it is in most cities / towns throughout America. Your point being what exactly?

As you're treating class c misdemeanors as though they are felonies, I'll tell you what a local officer of the law told me. He said if a police officer see's you committing a class c misdemeanor then its illegal. If an officer of the law DOES NOT see you committing a class c misdemeanor then its not illegal.

Last year I met our local game warden. A friend of mine and I were fishing. A cottonmouth showed up swimming merrily along, not bothering anyone ... so I shot it with my .22 lego.

We hear footsteps. It's the game warden who likely witnessed me discharging an air rifle within city limits.
He checked our licenses, then as he turned around to leave said to me..."Nice Shot"!

I was just messin around, brother. Wasn't trying to ruffle your feathers...

I've found the same. Unless you're shooting someone's windows out or something, the cops/wardens couldn't care less about somebody shooting an AG.

[3crows]

Out of curiosity what is the OD of the barrel please?

James

[avator]

I was surprised on the quality of the trigger housing and components, except for the plastic trigger blade.

Does this kit work without modification? https://www.ebay.com/itm/124117277847?hash=item1ce5f75c97:g:26wAAOSwGzZhT~te

Are there any other stainless or aluminum triggers that will drop in without modifications?

This is approaching the cost of the entire Marauder Gen 1 trigger assembly - $48.03 when I installed the same on a Maximus.

Granted;
- possible very recent price increase
- need a hammer without the wasp-waist contour
- trigger guard - cheap
- some recontour of the trigger area of the stock

I don't want to modify the stock, I would like the option to go back to OEM and I don't really have the right tools for that. If there are other triggers that will fit without modification and also cost less, I'm all ears!

I printed a few of these using a tough resin:



I'll print a half-dozen if fellows want to try it.

Mike T.
TKO

3 triggers came in the mail this morning. They look great but I'm not going to get a chance to try them out until tomorrow. I'll be on the road for around 5 hours today.
Thanks Mike.

Take your time. I've heard back from 4 fellows so far.

One fellow received 2 but one was broken in shipping at the top of the trigger blade. A layer analysis of the cad file shows a stress riser at that point, which we fixed in the V4.2 trigger. Also, this could be very problematic if the gun were loaded and cocked and the blade broke off, either because the trigger was pulled hard with the safety on, bump, etc. Might be a trick to uncock the rifle.

One fellow suggested the blade be lengthened and pushed forward a bit, which I may change in a later file.

I sent multiples in hopes guys would maybe gently try to break it, but it looks like the top of the trigger blade right at the safety stop is going to be the weak spot with the V4.1.

Thanks Mike...
I got most everything I needed to do done yesterday so I'm headed to the mancave shortly. I'll get the trigger installed in #805 and report back.

[Back_Roads]

Out of curiosity what is the OD of the barrel please?

James

 7/16ths 

[avator]

I was surprised on the quality of the trigger housing and components, except for the plastic trigger blade.

Does this kit work without modification? https://www.ebay.com/itm/124117277847?hash=item1ce5f75c97:g:26wAAOSwGzZhT~te

Are there any other stainless or aluminum triggers that will drop in without modifications?

This is approaching the cost of the entire Marauder Gen 1 trigger assembly - $48.03 when I installed the same on a Maximus.

Granted;
- possible very recent price increase
- need a hammer without the wasp-waist contour
- trigger guard - cheap
- some recontour of the trigger area of the stock

I don't want to modify the stock, I would like the option to go back to OEM and I don't really have the right tools for that. If there are other triggers that will fit without modification and also cost less, I'm all ears!

I printed a few of these using a tough resin:



I'll print a half-dozen if fellows want to try it.

Mike T.
TKO

3 triggers came in the mail this morning. They look great but I'm not going to get a chance to try them out until tomorrow. I'll be on the road for around 5 hours today.
Thanks Mike.

Take your time. I've heard back from 4 fellows so far.

One fellow received 2 but one was broken in shipping at the top of the trigger blade. A layer analysis of the cad file shows a stress riser at that point, which we fixed in the V4.2 trigger. Also, this could be very problematic if the gun were loaded and cocked and the blade broke off, either because the trigger was pulled hard with the safety on, bump, etc. Might be a trick to uncock the rifle.

One fellow suggested the blade be lengthened and pushed forward a bit, which I may change in a later file.

I sent multiples in hopes guys would maybe gently try to break it, but it looks like the top of the trigger blade right at the safety stop is going to be the weak spot with the V4.1.

Thanks Mike...
I got most everything I needed to do done yesterday so I'm headed to the mancave shortly. I'll get the trigger installed in #805 and report back.

Mike...
I received 3 of the V4.1.
I'm going to review in my 362 thread so I can continue my experience in one thread.
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=195418.msg156290346#msg156290346