NEW Crosman 362

[Wayne52]

Does anyone know the length of the extended bolt/probe that these guns have?  I didn't measure mine when I had it apart, I did what I've got done on this 2240 probe last night but will be waiting for it to cure more before I put it on the drill press and do some filing on it.  It's JB Weld that I dipped it in after roughing it up first. Right now it's at 1.828"

[TKO22]

Is that an off the shelf trigger?

looks to be 3d printed to me.  pretty sharp!

3D resin printed. I use grey when prototyping (much faster print and cure times), then switch to a tough slow cure black for production stuff.

[TKO22]

Does anyone know the length of the extended bolt/probe that these guns have?  I didn't measure mine when I had it apart, I did what I've got done on this 2240 probe last night but will be waiting for it to cure more before I put it on the drill press and do some filing on it.  It's JB Weld that I dipped it in after roughing it up first. Right now it's at 1.828"

1.855

[Rick67]

I did a quick trigger job on the C362 and stuck a new re-profiled blade in it. Polished the sear, took some of the angle of the sear spring out of it and replaced the trigger return spring with a lighter one. I didn't drill/tap the housing for a forward sear adjustment set screw yet, but I think I will next time it's apart.

Makes a world of difference in being able to accurately shoot it.

Going to start trying to make it quieter on the pumping action. It registered louder pumping it (104 dB) than a shot without a moderator (102 dB).

I also created a Fusion 360 file for an extended rear sight for the peep blade. It extends rearward about 3/4".

Great little moddable rifle. (But I still prefer the 1322 platform for light plinking!)

Mike

Is that an off the shelf trigger?

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[Wayne52]

Does anyone know the length of the extended bolt/probe that these guns have?  I didn't measure mine when I had it apart, I did what I've got done on this 2240 probe last night but will be waiting for it to cure more before I put it on the drill press and do some filing on it.  It's JB Weld that I dipped it in after roughing it up first. Right now it's at 1.828"

1.855

Thanks, I'll definitely be making it longer than it is then, I didn't think it was quite long enough yet.  I should probably let this cure longer before I dip it anymore, once it's done I think it will probably be a good extended probe though.

[Spacebus]

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Thanks! I'm new to this 

[Back_Roads]

 I lost track of what thread someone was asking if the 2240 etc. pistol grip would fit the C362. Well I did a conversion to an AR style for my 2260, I put a 362 21" barrel on the CO2 tube and the 2240 grip/trigger on it. While I was at it I layed them out to see if the pistol grip could be an option, as far as I see it about an inch of the pump arm would need to be removed to make room for the trigger.




 Now off to play with my "new toy" 

[dmoneytt]

     I posted my initial impression and accuracy with different pellets earlier in this thread.  I have tried 14 different pellets.  So far the most accurate pellet for my 362 is the RWS Superpoint (which none of my other .22 airguns like).  It is significantly more accurate than any other pellet, and unfortunately, the best 5-shot groups I can get from it are still around 0.5" center-to-center at 10 meters, and 1.25" at 25 yards.  I'm a competent peep sight shooter, and can get groups in the 0.1x" range at 10 meters from a rest with my Daisy 853 or Umarex Gauntlet that I have set up with peep sights.  I'm disappointed in the accuracy, but I guess it's about average for a $100 airgun with good power.  My Crosman 1322 will shoot neck and neck with it. It is probably the equal to my $100 Vanquish Nitro Piston in .22.  However, every Daisy 880 I've owned would shoot 0.25" or better at 10 meters.

      I hoped this 362 would offer Daisy 880 accuracy, but with greater power in a larger bore.  The gun feels great, and a simple trigger job gave me a crisp 2 lb trigger.  Pumping effort is low and the pump arm moves smoothly and feels solid. The stock is well sorted and the rubber buttpad is a nice touch.  It definitely feels upscale compared to any past pumpers I've owned, which are mainly from Crosman/Benjamin, and Daisy.

     I cleaned the bore of my 362 before shooting it, and again after 50 pellets, and again at 250 pellets.  It was filthy the first time I cleaned it, even though it was unfired by me.  The subsequent cleanings were fairly easy with minimal leading to remove, and the bore and crown look fine.  I have about 350 pellets through the rifle so far.  Maybe it will improve with more shooting, but so far it's not meeting my expectations in accuracy.  I was expecting groups under an inch at 25 yards, given that my 1322 shoots so well for a pistol. Maybe a barrel upgrade is in my future.  A Lothar Walther in .22 would be fantastic.

[Back_Roads]

 I am wondering id Crosman is getting paint overspray in the crown end of some of these barrels, they had that issue with another .22 barrel years back. The barrel I took off my 362 and put on my 2260, seems to be shooting better than before, as I did give it a thorough cleaning when I had it off the gun.

 PS I just remembered what gun had overspray issues, it was the 392 

[EdinGa]

Mine shot around an inch and a half at 45 yards with the peep and CPUMs

Edit: just measured it and it was 1.75

[7624452]

I am wondering id Crosman is getting paint overspray in the crown end of some of these barrels, they had that issue with another .22 barrel years back. The barrel I took off my 362 and put on my 2260, seems to be shooting better than before, as I did give it a thorough cleaning when I had it off the gun.

Is the C362 barrel painted ?

[Wayne52]

Both air cylinder and barrel are blued.

[TerryM]

I've gotten lots of groups smaller than 1/2" at 20 yards.  Today I was plinking 3/8" pieces of chalk, hitting more than not.

[Rick67]

I lost track of what thread someone was asking if the 2240 etc. pistol grip would fit the C362. Well I did a conversion to an AR style for my 2260, I put a 362 21" barrel on the CO2 tube and the 2240 grip/trigger on it. While I was at it I layed them out to see if the pistol grip could be an option, as far as I see it about an inch of the pump arm would need to be removed to make room for the trigger.




 Now off to play with my "new toy" 

It was me 

Gracias, James sir 

[Rick67]

     I posted my initial impression and accuracy with different pellets earlier in this thread.  I have tried 14 different pellets.  So far the most accurate pellet for my 362 is the RWS Superpoint (which none of my other .22 airguns like).  It is significantly more accurate than any other pellet, and unfortunately, the best 5-shot groups I can get from it are still around 0.5" center-to-center at 10 meters, and 1.25" at 25 yards.  I'm a competent peep sight shooter, and can get groups in the 0.1x" range at 10 meters from a rest with my Daisy 853 or Umarex Gauntlet that I have set up with peep sights.  I'm disappointed in the accuracy, but I guess it's about average for a $100 airgun with good power.  My Crosman 1322 will shoot neck and neck with it. It is probably the equal to my $100 Vanquish Nitro Piston in .22.  However, every Daisy 880 I've owned would shoot 0.25" or better at 10 meters.

      I hoped this 362 would offer Daisy 880 accuracy, but with greater power in a larger bore.  The gun feels great, and a simple trigger job gave me a crisp 2 lb trigger.  Pumping effort is low and the pump arm moves smoothly and feels solid. The stock is well sorted and the rubber buttpad is a nice touch.  It definitely feels upscale compared to any past pumpers I've owned, which are mainly from Crosman/Benjamin, and Daisy.

     I cleaned the bore of my 362 before shooting it, and again after 50 pellets, and again at 250 pellets.  It was filthy the first time I cleaned it, even though it was unfired by me.  The subsequent cleanings were fairly easy with minimal leading to remove, and the bore and crown look fine.  I have about 350 pellets through the rifle so far.  Maybe it will improve with more shooting, but so far it's not meeting my expectations in accuracy.  I was expecting groups under an inch at 25 yards, given that my 1322 shoots so well for a pistol. Maybe a barrel upgrade is in my future.  A Lothar Walther in .22 would be fantastic.

Yeah, a LW barrel from the MROD, but it will require some machining.

[Spacebus]

So I'm a bit disappointed in the power. Speeds are averages over 5-6 shots. Chronograph is mounted to the muzzle.

Column A is four pumps, column B is eight pumps, both Predator GTO 11.75 grain pellets.

Column C is four pumps, column D is eight pumps, both Crosman Premier Piranha 14.3 grain pellets.

Column E is with my PR900 shooting the Predators.

The POI between the Piranhas and the GTO's is identical to the included Crosman Essential pellets, at least at 30' in my attic.

[bender ville]

So I'm a bit disappointed in the power. Speeds are averages over 5-6 shots. Chronograph is mounted to the muzzle.

Column A is four pumps, column B is eight pumps, both Predator GTO 11.75 grain pellets.

Column C is four pumps, column D is eight pumps, both Crosman Premier Piranha 14.3 grain pellets.

Column E is with my PR900 shooting the Predators.

The POI between the Piranhas and the GTO's is identical to the included Crosman Essential pellets, at least at 30' in my attic.

     you are getting lower fps then my what i call good one mine are 50 fps higher with cphp    but i bought two 362s and there is a 50 fps  differance between my two

[Wayne52]

I installed the Alchemy Werks extended probe, it's velocity is less than the stock probe that came with it was, about 20fps slower at 8 pumps.  I do really like the magnet on it though.

[TKO22]

I installed the Alchemy Werks extended probe, it's velocity is less than the stock probe that came with it was, about 20fps slower at 8 pumps.  I do really like the magnet on it though.

The velocity change may not be due to the probe shape, but by the length of the rear end slightly interfering with the full forward travel of the hammer/cocking pin on firing. Check the back end and see if you are seeing excessive peening from the pin.

Secondly, do the tissue test to be sure the probe o-ring is sealing to the barrel with both probes.

[Back_Roads]

I installed the Alchemy Werks extended probe, it's velocity is less than the stock probe that came with it was, about 20fps slower at 8 pumps.  I do really like the magnet on it though.

I posted crony results of pellets in the factory plastic breach. I cronied first with normal use, probe / pellet 1/2 way over the BP, and then with the pellet set to just clear the barrel port. The ones they were set past the BP were like Wayne discovered about 20 FPS slower. I was unsure if that was from the extra air space created between the pellet and the probe or just the deeper position.
 BP=Barrel Port