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cbourbeau32 · « **on:** December 21, 2020, 01:36:23 PM »

Those who have ordered a gen 2 and have had a chance to spend a little time using it.

What are your impressions and would you buy it again?

Privateer · « **Reply #1 on:** December 21, 2020, 01:47:40 PM »

As one of the testers for the DAR II, and having shot many of them all over the Country?
Yeah. I plan to get another.
The accuracy is right up there with my Evanix RainStorm and Hatsan Nova at so much less investment!
At the price point? I could easily buy several just to have extra parts until parts are readily available.
Not something I can do with the Evanix or Hatsans.

nervoustrigger · « **Reply #2 on:** December 21, 2020, 02:16:00 PM »

The .22 cal became my go-to for pest control in the 50-70yd bracket (furthest distance I have around here). Not only does it provide me with a high level of confidence at making these shots consistently, but it does so with its second best pellet. That’s a first for me.

crazyhorse1 · « **Reply #3 on:** December 21, 2020, 03:30:00 PM »

I have a DAR .22 that i'm still dialing in but have shot on some targets. I like this rifle and learned that the stock is German hardwood. It will be a handy hunting gun just like my Discovery .22 as they are both the same length. The magazines are just super. Ordinarily I just use a single shot tray and it would be nice to get one for the DAR.
I am looking forward to Hajimoto's review of the rifle.

https://u.cubeupload.com/crazyhorse4/IMG2429.jpg

Dan H · « **Reply #4 on:** December 21, 2020, 05:42:44 PM »

Quote from: cbourbeau32 on December 21, 2020, 01:36:23 PM

Those who have ordered a gen 2 and have had a chance to spend a little time using it.

What are your impressions and would you buy it again?

DAR guns are DARN GOOD ! I have the .22 and the .25 I can tear the center out of a dime size circle with both at 50 yards ,and the .22 does it with cheap walmart crosman hollow point 14,3 g you can get when in stock for 6 bucks ,and change ...

RDB · « **Reply #5 on:** December 21, 2020, 09:15:50 PM »

Hanging on to mine. Nice rifle for the price. The reg is really consistent as well.

nervoustrigger · « **Reply #6 on:** December 21, 2020, 09:39:53 PM »

50 yard plinking with the .22 cal. Scout's honor...no warmups, no retakes. Of course if it had been terrible, it wouldn't have made any sense to upload it...so there's that too

cbourbeau32 · « **Reply #7 on:** December 22, 2020, 12:28:22 AM »

[/quote]DAR guns are DARN GOOD ! I have the .22 and the .25 I can tear the center out of a dime size circle with both at 50 yards ,and the .22 does it with cheap walmart crosman hollow point 14,3 g you can get when in stock for 6 bucks ,and change ...
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Thanks!

What do you think the max velocity would with let's say the 25.39 and 33.95 pellets? Also, what pressure is the regulator set for?

subscriber · « **Reply #8 on:** December 22, 2020, 01:21:26 AM »

Bought the DAR in .177 because I did not have a PCP rifle in that caliber. And because it was going cheap. I like rifles to be around 40" long; and liked the look of the wood stock.

Other than frustration with the user manual not including a parts diagram, I am arguing with myself about how bad it would be to own anther DAR in .22...

Your question about reg settings could be inferred by looking at a long enough shot string. It should become apparent when the gun gets off the regulator. Reg pressure does not matter. Rather power, velocity stability, accuracy and shot count matter. It is here that the DAR surprises, considering its 17" long barrel.

Lowering the reg pressure gives you more shots before you drop off the reg; at lower power. That said, I get the impression looking at velocity data shared on this forum, that the .25 has a higher reg pressure setting than the .177. If I was to take a guess, the .177 reg is probably set around 1500 PSI; while the .25 is probably set to at least to 2000 PSI. So. how many shots between 3000 and 2000 PSI for the .25? Assuming it is for hunting at 45 ft.lb, I would predict at least 25 shots.

Don't take my word for it. I don't have a .25 DAR...

nervoustrigger · « **Reply #9 on:** December 22, 2020, 01:49:26 AM »

I set up my gen1 .25 cal for 45fpe and got 31 shots:

crazyhorse1 · « **Reply #10 on:** December 22, 2020, 01:48:11 PM »

Quote from: subscriber on December 22, 2020, 01:21:26 AM

Bought the DAR in .177 because I did not have a PCP rifle in that caliber. And because it was going cheap. I like rifles to be around 40" long; and liked the look of the wood stock.

Other than frustration with the user manual not including a parts diagram, I am arguing with myself about how bad it would be to own anther DAR in .22...

Your question about reg settings could be inferred by looking at a long enough shot string. It should become apparent when the gun gets off the regulator. Reg pressure does not matter. Rather power, velocity stability, accuracy and shot count matter. It is here that the DAR surprises, considering its 17" long barrel.

Lowering the reg pressure gives you more shots before you drop off the reg; at lower power. That said, I get the impression looking at velocity data shared on this forum, that the .25 has a higher reg pressure setting than the .177. If I was to take a guess, the .177 reg is probably set around 1500 PSI; while the .25 is probably set to at least to 2000 PSI. So. how many shots between 3000 and 2000 PSI for the .25? Assuming it is for hunting at 45 ft.lb, I would predict at least 25 shots.

Don't take my word for it. I don't have a .25 DAR...

What do you think the DAR .22 reg pressure may be set at ? As it is using 14.3 gr JSB's I'm getting 941 FPS Avg , ES 5.2 and SD 1.00.

RDB · « **Reply #11 on:** December 22, 2020, 02:52:52 PM »

Quote from: crazyhorse1 on December 22, 2020, 01:48:11 PM

Quote from: subscriber on December 22, 2020, 01:21:26 AM
Bought the DAR in .177 because I did not have a PCP rifle in that caliber. And because it was going cheap. I like rifles to be around 40" long; and liked the look of the wood stock.

Other than frustration with the user manual not including a parts diagram, I am arguing with myself about how bad it would be to own anther DAR in .22...

Your question about reg settings could be inferred by looking at a long enough shot string. It should become apparent when the gun gets off the regulator. Reg pressure does not matter. Rather power, velocity stability, accuracy and shot count matter. It is here that the DAR surprises, considering its 17" long barrel.

Lowering the reg pressure gives you more shots before you drop off the reg; at lower power. That said, I get the impression looking at velocity data shared on this forum, that the .25 has a higher reg pressure setting than the .177. If I was to take a guess, the .177 reg is probably set around 1500 PSI; while the .25 is probably set to at least to 2000 PSI. So. how many shots between 3000 and 2000 PSI for the .25? Assuming it is for hunting at 45 ft.lb, I would predict at least 25 shots.

Don't take my word for it. I don't have a .25 DAR...

What do you think the DAR .22 reg pressure may be set at ? As it is using 14.3 gr JSB's I'm getting 941 FPS Avg , ES 5.2 and SD 1.00.

Easy enough to find out. Run it down to about 150 bar. Load up a mag and shoot over the chronograph and note when your velocity drops off.

crazyhorse1 · « **Reply #12 on:** December 22, 2020, 04:33:45 PM »

Thanks RDB..

subscriber · « **Reply #13 on:** December 22, 2020, 07:08:35 PM »

Quote from: crazyhorse1 on December 22, 2020, 01:48:11 PM

What do you think the DAR .22 reg pressure may be set at ? As it is using 14.3 gr JSB's I'm getting 941 FPS Avg , ES 5.2 and SD 1.00.

Rod is correct about how easy it is to figure out by shooting a long shot string till there is a kink in the sequence.

Based on my assumed reg pressure for my .177, after applying fuzzy math, your .22 has a reg pressure of 1550 PSI. Better to shoot a sting and find out...

Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58) · « **Reply #14 on:** December 22, 2020, 08:18:25 PM »

Quote from: cbourbeau32 on December 21, 2020, 01:36:23 PM

Those who have ordered a gen 2 and have had a chance to spend a little time using it.

What are your impressions and would you buy it again?

At the price point, it would be hard to find another new PCP with these features. Accuracy is up there with rifles cost 3X more! I have one in .22, would I but it again? You bet, and I'm still thinking about getting another in .177!

real7 · « **Reply #15 on:** December 22, 2020, 09:42:54 PM »

Quote from: nervoustrigger on December 22, 2020, 01:49:26 AM

I set up my gen1 .25 cal for 45fpe and got 31 shots:

Jason, Could a 40/40 tune be had without any modifications?

crazyhorse1 · « **Reply #16 on:** December 22, 2020, 09:54:03 PM »

Quote from: subscriber on December 22, 2020, 07:08:35 PM

Quote from: crazyhorse1 on December 22, 2020, 01:48:11 PM
What do you think the DAR .22 reg pressure may be set at ? As it is using 14.3 gr JSB's I'm getting 941 FPS Avg , ES 5.2 and SD 1.00.

Rod is correct about how easy it is to figure out by shooting a long shot string till there is a kink in the sequence.

Based on my assumed reg pressure for my .177, after applying fuzzy math, your .22 has a reg pressure of 1550 PSI. Better to shoot a sting and find out...

i,LL hand pump it up tommorow and shot across the chrony.....thanks.

nervoustrigger · « **Reply #17 on:** December 22, 2020, 10:49:26 PM »

Quote from: real7 on December 22, 2020, 09:42:54 PM

Could a 40/40 tune be had without any modifications?

It's within striking distance.

That represents about a 15% increase in total fpe over the string I posted. You may have noticed the efficiency figure of 1.14fpe/ci is pretty weak, due in no small part to the anemic plenum volume. Dropping from 45fpe to 40fpe would help with that a smidge, and/or let you reduce the regulator's setpoint to afford a bit more headroom.

Back_Roads · « **Reply #18 on:** December 22, 2020, 11:19:38 PM »

Very pleased with my .177, will get a .22 for sure next then the .25 as well.

BTair · « **Reply #19 on:** December 23, 2020, 10:20:46 AM »

I regret purchasing my .25, wish I had put that money toward something better.

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