DAR Gen II is now available

[Dan H]

I paid $179 for a great shooting gauntlet.  No leaks.  It did cock hard though.  The regulator held good although set@1000psi.  To buy a new gun that isn't operable from numerous leaks would chap my - you know what.

I will post this Just so you,  and anyone who is concerned about the DAR 2 guns knows this information .... DAR had a problem with o rings they are now going threw every gun replacing with the new correct long lasting o rings  ... 2nd they are enlarging a bit the contact area on poppets so they seal good now .... so now you have a rock solid champion in the 300 buck price range nothing compares to it for build quality in that price range ... some things to remember are to just barely crack the air release when degassing the gun so the little ball bearing  stays in place correctly , and don't set the gun off with the probe pulled back or you will be looking for the o ring that goes in the barrel to seal off the probe  .... 

so just buy one already , and know you bought the best for the 300 buck range at this point with a real decent wood stock that makes the Avenger / Gauntlet look , and feel silly ! 

[RichH]

so just buy one already , and know you bought the best for the 300 buck range at this point with a real decent wood stock that makes the Avenger / Gauntlet look , and feel silly ! 

Where are you "buying" these? I've been checking the DAR website since about January and all 3 calibers have been "OOS".

[USAFANG6799]

They look super awesome for sure. The website is 150% lacking. Way too basic. Doesn’t even say where they are located. I believe the guns are manufactured in China? Ugh...I already have one China gun.  How’s the support on these?? Anyone have any experience with them?

I went to their site and all calibers say they are "out of stock."
The site is pretty basic but functional.

[singleshotcajun]

Hopefully they will be ready to go "live" soon with rifles that have the updates.

[Trucker3573]

They look super awesome for sure. The website is 150% lacking. Way too basic. Doesn’t even say where they are located. I believe the guns are manufactured in China? Ugh...I already have one China gun.  How’s the support on these?? Anyone have any experience with them?

I went to their site and all calibers say they are "out of stock."
The site is pretty basic but functional.

I guess but I just question the support from a company that doesn’t put a little more into their front. I mean there is no address of where they are even located nor a functioning phone number on the site. Just a big red flag to me. Honestly it really stinks as for 300 bones the guns look awesome. I don’t know I just went out on a limb with the QB chief as I was impatient and don’t want to do it again. I can hardly wait if something internally fails on that beeman. Probably be a 180 dollar paper weight. Oh well for 180 if I can get a year out of it I feel it was worth it.

I say all this and will probably end up with a DAR 25 if they ever become available..lol

[Firewalker]

Just one click into the site under Contact Us, I added a second phone number for you.

I'm not understanding the negativity, isn't life hard enough without the constant griping? Lets just enjoy the joy the DAR brings, shall we?

1219 E. Locust Street
Ontario, CA 91761
Email: support@aimsportsinc.com
Toll-free: 909-923-2228
1-909-923-7883

[Nvreloader]

David
So far, I have not felt the joy from my Dar's,
I have had my 177 cal since Dec 1st 2020, with a total of 6 shots thru it, it won't hold air etc.
I have contacted Dar several times, with only a couple of answers/reply's back.
I was assured that they (Dar) would send me the correct "O" rings to repair my 17 cal Dar,
4 weeks ago and I am still waiting......

And to rub salt into the wounds, I bought a 2nd Dar, 22 cal and have shot over a tin of ammo thru it,
I really starting to enjoy it for the last month, very accurate/quite with OEM Crosman ammo, at 40+ yds,
and started thinking of ways to put a good SSG into it and improve it for a hunting air rifle etc.

Until this AM at sun up, had a magpie sitting on top of the Cluck cluck house, eyeing the way to get in,
grabbed the 22 Dar and lined up for the shot, stroked the trigger and got a strangled mouse phartt noise from it, WTH,
checked and found I had NO air, I know it had over 2000psi when I stored it.........Here I go again..........

I am willing and able to do the work to change out the OEM Bubble gum "O" rings,
just need the correct sizes and where they go, I have 2 OEM SETs of 177/22 cal "O" rings,
they are NOT the same size for both calibers.......

I have over 20+ air guns rifle/pistols and have replaced/changed the "O" rings on ALL of them,
BUT, I had a parts breakdown on every AG and could order GOOD "O" rings from the O ring store,
no such luck with the Dar's, so far.

So, at this time, Yes I am a being a little negative and griping, but I think, I have earned that right,
as I have NOT been enjoying my Dar's, so far.

YMMV,
Don

Just one click into the site under Contact Us, I added a second phone number for you.
I'm not understanding the negativity, isn't life hard enough without the constant griping?
Lets just enjoy the joy the DAR brings, shall we?
1219 E. Locust Street
Ontario, CA 91761
Email: support@aimsportsinc.com
Toll-free: 909-923-2228
1-909-923-7883

[Trucker3573]

David
So far, I have not felt the joy from my Dar's,
I have had my 177 cal since Dec 1st 2020, with a total of 6 shots thru it, it won't hold air etc.
I have contacted Dar several times, with only a couple of answers/reply's back.
I was assured that they (Dar) would send me the correct "O" rings to repair my 17 cal Dar,
4 weeks ago and I am still waiting......

And to rub salt into the wounds, I bought a 2nd Dar, 22 cal and have shot over a tin of ammo thru it,
I really starting to enjoy it for the last month, very accurate/quite with OEM Crosman ammo, at 40+ yds,
and started thinking of ways to put a good SSG into it and improve it for a hunting air rifle etc.

Until this AM at sun up, had a magpie sitting on top of the Cluck cluck house, eyeing the way to get in,
grabbed the 22 Dar and lined up for the shot, stroked the trigger and got a strangled mouse phartt noise from it, WTH,
checked and found I had NO air, I know it had over 2000psi when I stored it.........Here I go again..........

I am willing and able to do the work to change out the OEM Bubble gum "O" rings,
just need the correct sizes and where they go, I have 2 OEM SETs of 177/22 cal "O" rings,
they are NOT the same size for both calibers.......

I have over 20+ air guns rifle/pistols and have replaced/changed the "O" rings on ALL of them,
BUT, I had a parts breakdown on every AG and could order GOOD "O" rings from the O ring store,
no such luck with the Dar's, so far.

So, at this time, Yes I am a being a little negative and griping, but I think, I have earned that right,
as I have NOT been enjoying my Dar's, so far.

YMMV,
Don

Just one click into the site under Contact Us, I added a second phone number for you.
I'm not understanding the negativity, isn't life hard enough without the constant griping?
Lets just enjoy the joy the DAR brings, shall we?
1219 E. Locust Street
Ontario, CA 91761
Email: support@aimsportsinc.com
Toll-free: 909-923-2228
1-909-923-7883

Thank you. Kind of what I would have guessed. Anyway I’m out you guys enjoy

[Wayne52]

David
So far, I have not felt the joy from my Dar's,
I have had my 177 cal since Dec 1st 2020, with a total of 6 shots thru it, it won't hold air etc.
I have contacted Dar several times, with only a couple of answers/reply's back.
I was assured that they (Dar) would send me the correct "O" rings to repair my 17 cal Dar,
4 weeks ago and I am still waiting......

And to rub salt into the wounds, I bought a 2nd Dar, 22 cal and have shot over a tin of ammo thru it,
I really starting to enjoy it for the last month, very accurate/quite with OEM Crosman ammo, at 40+ yds,
and started thinking of ways to put a good SSG into it and improve it for a hunting air rifle etc.

Until this AM at sun up, had a magpie sitting on top of the Cluck cluck house, eyeing the way to get in,
grabbed the 22 Dar and lined up for the shot, stroked the trigger and got a strangled mouse phartt noise from it, WTH,
checked and found I had NO air, I know it had over 2000psi when I stored it.........Here I go again..........

I am willing and able to do the work to change out the OEM Bubble gum "O" rings,
just need the correct sizes and where they go, I have 2 OEM SETs of 177/22 cal "O" rings,
they are NOT the same size for both calibers.......

I have over 20+ air guns rifle/pistols and have replaced/changed the "O" rings on ALL of them,
BUT, I had a parts breakdown on every AG and could order GOOD "O" rings from the O ring store,
no such luck with the Dar's, so far.

So, at this time, Yes I am a being a little negative and griping, but I think, I have earned that right,
as I have NOT been enjoying my Dar's, so far.

YMMV,
Don

Just one click into the site under Contact Us, I added a second phone number for you.
I'm not understanding the negativity, isn't life hard enough without the constant griping?
Lets just enjoy the joy the DAR brings, shall we?
1219 E. Locust Street
Ontario, CA 91761
Email: support@aimsportsinc.com
Toll-free: 909-923-2228
1-909-923-7883

Don I've also been waiting quite some time now for a new valve assembly from them, must be they're very busy.  I'm in no real big hurry for it anyway and even told them that on the phone when I talked to them.  I've really been getting into the AEA .357 that I've got now, that gun is a beast and I WILL be hunting deer with it this year.  I have two more slug molds coming for that gun and the last one I ordered is probably the one I'll be using for deer.

[Privateer]

Some people are pretty lucky they never got a M-Rod Gen 1 in .22
Worst case of bad barrels ever! And talk about having to dump money into a pit just for  a little bit of power!
Yeah. That turned me off so bad I'll never have an M-rod again!
I'd not take one for free.

Is DAR perfect? No. But I don't recall the option to return my M-Rod as DAR offered.
I also hunted with the Owner of the Company and had a great time talking with him about the Gun.
Ron took the time, on his own, to get things better.
Some issues came up on the Chinese side that were not approved, and that seems to still be an issue.
Look at the building your sitting in and wonder about suppliers using sub-standard stuff to build it!
That's an every day thing! Cut costs and deal with it when it bites us in the arse!

I know the hours and dedication Ron put into the development of the Gen 2.
I shot many versions of that Gun from California, Mississippi, to Ohio.
Before any of you could even get the Gen 2.

So don't buy one. I don't care. I'm waiting for the project DAR has in the works anyway!

[HunterWhite]

I'm waiting for the project DAR has in the works anyway!

Do tell!🙂

[Firewalker]

...So don't buy one. I don't care. I'm waiting for the project DAR has in the works anyway!...

I cant wait for the Gen lll! I'll be happy to get in on the ground floor and have another set of incredible guns!

Trucker, sorry but you have no idea what quality there is in these remarkable rifles, a few O-rings, a poppet? I'm sorry to hear you throw in the towel.

For me, I had half a day making head shots on the local 13 stripe gopher population. I frankly would not trade my .22 for a Daystate right now.

[Firewalker]

...So don't buy one. I don't care. I'm waiting for the project DAR has in the works anyway!...

I cant wait for the Gen lll! I'll be happy to get in on the ground floor and have another set of incredible guns!

Trucker, sorry but you have no idea what quality there is in these remarkable rifles, a few O-rings, a poppet? I'm sorry to hear you throw in the towel.

For me, I had half a day making head shots on the local 13 stripe gopher population. I frankly would not trade my .22 for a Daystate right now.

A ()&(^)(&()-Mazing!

[Dan H]

Man they need to get their act together and get the good o rings in kit's to send to us , not much excuse not to have this figured out , I was told 3 weeks ago they would have them available , they need to put out a list of o rings for each caliber on their site , so we can order them our self's , if they are going to keep dropping the ball like they have ... the guns were out last fall , I just don't get it , I think I will call Joe on Monday ,and see what he has to say ....

My thought on the next gen DAR gun is  ,  don't make it till you get your act together on the 2nd gen ,and do business the right way , or there might not be to many people interested in the 3rd due to poor bizz track record .... 

[Nvreloader]

Thanks Wayne,
Yes,  I am sure they are back loaded and very busy etc.

I guess I am frustrated, have been shooting the 22 cal Dar I got from Paul,
and really was very happy with the results I was experiencing with it,
very accurate with OEM Crosman HP ammo, inside minute of Hosp at 40+ yds,
real quite compared to some others I own.
I would like the same experience with the 17 cal as I have a Starling/Hosp thinning shoot coming up real soon,
inside a Alum building and want to use lite weight flat nosed pellets to prevent any holes etc.

I'll gladly pay the cost of the "O" rings, not asking for a handout, OR a parts diagram with the "O" ring info where they go etc. 
So far, the Dar's are the only air guns that don't supply a parts diagram, with that info provided,
95% of their problems with the leaking issues would be addressed and provide a very positive image for Dar.

Tia,
Don

Don I've also been waiting quite some time now for a new valve assembly from them, must be they're very busy.  I'm in no real big hurry for it anyway and even told them that on the phone when I talked to them.  I've really been getting into the AEA .357 that I've got now, that gun is a beast and I WILL be hunting deer with it this year.  I have two more slug molds coming for that gun and the last one I ordered is probably the one I'll be using for deer.

[Firewalker]

Overcast and dead-calm here today! 60F for the high, 58F right now, just about perfect weather. I'm going to set the cameras on the 100y and 200y steel backer plates after church and spray paint a dot to see where I am at both distances. JSB's will go to 200y but the spiral may be too big to plant them consistently.

I hand cast .25 pellets and really want to see if they will came together at longer distances, so far, they are shot-gunning at 20y.

[Privateer]

I'm waiting for the project DAR has in the works anyway!

Do tell!🙂

I'm not at liberty to discuss it.
 

[Firewalker]

I'm waiting for the project DAR has in the works anyway!

Do tell!🙂

I'm not at liberty to discuss it.
 

I'm gonna make a guess based on the hints I've gotten so far. Bullpup.

[Insanity]

Hehe I know I know.

[Privateer]

What I don't know is IF the plan is still in the works.
And since I haven't heard anymore scuttle butt?
I'll NOT post what I did know at one time.

That's how things get all messed up and expectations exceed delivered returns.