DAR Gen II is now available

[gendoc]

Just a friendly note, the first shot being 20fps fast suggests you can back off the hammer spring a smidge and get more shots per fill.

good info !!
i just got my granddaughter a gen 2 .177, and its all over the place ....even with 3 scopes and 6 different quality pellets
how do you adjust the HS ?

[nervoustrigger]

The disc at the back of the receiver.  It has 2 dimples in it to grab with a spanner wrench or a fine set of needle nose pliers.

[NHGuide]

I will likely play a little with the hammer spring but I don't want to lose the 40 ft/lb average.  I have already settled on the roughly 20 shots at a good average ... it is a tree squirrel gun after all....not a target gun.  I don't need a perfect wicked awesome spectabulationary gun.   

[nervoustrigger]

It takes a massive amount of air to squeeze out the last 5% of a rifle's velocity.

But that's not the only downside.  Being tuned up on the plateau will also magnify the effect of regulator creep.  Tuning to 95 - 97% of the peak velocity will improve both.

For example my .25 cal is providing 31 shots at 45fpe, having done nothing more than adjusting the hammer spring tension:



And the first shot is on point at the 43 yard zero after sitting idle overnight:

[Firewalker]

It takes a massive amount of air to squeeze out the last 5% of a rifle's velocity.

But that's not the only downside.  Being tuned up on the plateau will also magnify the effect of regulator creep.  Tuning to 95 - 97% of the peak velocity will improve both.

For example my .25 cal is providing 31 shots at 45fpe, having done nothing more than adjusting the hammer spring tension:



And the first shot is on point at the 43 yard zero after sitting idle overnight:

Jason, did you shorten the spring? I can't define my .25 down any more due to the cap being backed out as far as it will go.

[nervoustrigger]

If you can't get the velocity to drop with the adjuster backed all the way out, yes go ahead and take a turn off the spring and try again.

[Fred E Krugar]

It takes a massive amount of air to squeeze out the last 5% of a rifle's velocity.

But that's not the only downside.  Being tuned up on the plateau will also magnify the effect of regulator creep.  Tuning to 95 - 97% of the peak velocity will improve both.

For example my .25 cal is providing 31 shots at 45fpe, having done nothing more than adjusting the hammer spring tension:



And the first shot is on point at the 43 yard zero after sitting idle overnight:

Jason, did you shorten the spring? I can't define my .25 down any more due to the cap being backed out as far as it will go.

I routed the  back of my stock so I can get 3 1/2 turns out. Just restain the stock and rub in some true oil.

[Firewalker]

If you can't get the velocity to drop with the adjuster backed all the way out, yes go ahead and take a turn off the spring and try again.

In the .25, I played with the reg and it's all over the place no matter the setting, the hammer was the only place any velocity change showed but the shot count stayed rock solid at 14 no matter the combination I used.

 In the .22, I got/get 30 shots at 840 fps with CPHP so I am VERY happy with that one.

[Firewalker]

It takes a massive amount of air to squeeze out the last 5% of a rifle's velocity.

But that's not the only downside.  Being tuned up on the plateau will also magnify the effect of regulator creep.  Tuning to 95 - 97% of the peak velocity will improve both.

For example my .25 cal is providing 31 shots at 45fpe, having done nothing more than adjusting the hammer spring tension:



And the first shot is on point at the 43 yard zero after sitting idle overnight:

Jason, did you shorten the spring? I can't define my .25 down any more due to the cap being backed out as far as it will go.

I routed the  back of my stock so I can get 3 1/2 turns out. Just restain the stock and rub in some true oil.

I have a stock with a bruise on the ears so I need to sand/stain that area anyway, routing sounds like a great idea.

[Fred E Krugar]

Once you do that it also makes a great thumb rest.

[Firewalker]

Once you do that it also makes a great thumb rest.

I like the way you think!    I find the DAR stock to be very uncomfortable for bench shooting so a thumb rest might be the ticket!

[singleshotcajun]

Off today after thirteen twelve hour days . My DAR is still  holding air after tightening the poppet valve spring. Lessened the hammer spring to .100” recessed and it is getting more consistent.

[Insanity]

I purchased a cheap Oring kit at HF yes I know probably 70 duro instead of preferred 90. I finally got it to stop leaking out of the vent hole I think. I have it pressured up to 20mpa I will see if it holds air over night.

Very close to Nervoustriggers orings I used. Small end of inter reg spool 006 super tight fit large end 011 OD reg body 112 the barrel the reg sits in 116.

[crazyhorse1]

Talked to Joe about my DAR .22 today. Everything is cool and we shared info/ideas re some of the issues and it was a good chat.

[StevenG]

Are these going to be available again at some point?

I will admit I didn't read all the pages here, yet.

[Firewalker]

Are these going to be available again at some point? Yes

I will admit I didn't read all the pages here, yet. Bummer

[crazyhorse1]

Are these going to be available again at some point?

I will admit I didn't read all the pages here, yet.

Their stock is low so they are fixing those rifles along with customer warranty rifles....I did not ask about next shipment.

[Firewalker]

Are these going to be available again at some point?

I will admit I didn't read all the pages here, yet.

Their stock is low so they are fixing those rifles along with customer warranty rifles....I did not ask about next shipment.

Hmmmm. Joe told me that they had a shipment arriving in February, then they stopped selling until the o rings were changed out.

[tracker1955]

The sad part of this story is that you have an American company trying desperately to put out a good product, but the Chinese manufacturer has let them down twice. I wouldn't blame Aim Sports if they threw in the towel on this one but they have enough integrity that they're still trying to make things right. I hope they can reign in this company's directors and get the QC issues resolved permanently. I'd hate to see another American company get sc--ed over by the Chinese looking for quantity over quality.

[Insanity]

This is what happens when you go with the cheapest bidder.