DAR Gen II is now available

[Fred E Krugar]

Looks like I found a longer barrel for my .25 already.

My grandson ran over his bullboss with his truck yesterday, so he just gave me the bullboss ( looks like the barrel was not even touched, broke the receiver in half.)

I know it is a very accurate barrel. May have to do a little machining to get it installed, but that ain't a step for a stepper.

What you guys think?

[nervoustrigger]

His misfortune becomes your opportunity.  Looking forward to seeing your results!

[HunterWhite]

My grandson ran over his bullboss with his truck yesterday, broke the receiver in half.

I have had one that I WANTED to run over. I restrained myself.

Hunter

[Fred E Krugar]

I think it perturbed me off more than it did him.

I had just finished up tuning it (ssg, machined a new hammer, and turned my own springs).

I think he was eyeballing getting a Maverick, had to make it look feasible to the girl friend lol.

He could of just given it to me. I swear that boy never listens. I think it is in the water in Waco.   

[HunterWhite]

Oh man, I  hope it was accidental.

Hunter

[Firewalker]

I got my DAR in .22 last night, checked the barrel (was fine) and put two cleaning wads down it to ensure it was clear and put two magazines of JSB Exact Jumbo 15.9 through it after mounting a 3x9 on top of it. Had to be up early so I put it away with 120 bar left on the gauge and went to bed.

I got home from work today and pumped it up to 200 bar, settled in and shot a sheet of competition bulls and decided to turn the hammer spring down a couple turns and oil the seer, felt a bit gritty. Set it up in the gunsmith vice in plastic jaws and turned the back cap out about 1-1/2 turns, dropped a drop of oil on the seer and went inside for dinner.

I came back and the gauge read zero!

A quick review here showed that many times screws etc. were loose upon arrival so I went through all the screws and immediately found the barrel band was loose and the probe would spin the reservoir freely. I got that all aligned and tightened back up but now the reservoir will not pump up at all. No indication of air leaking externally, some noise internally but after 100 pumps, I gave up.

I did test the pump, it works fine, pumps and holds 3000 psi with no drop off. Yes, the bleed screw is tight and no air seems to be coming from it.

Calling for a RMA tomorrow, this gun is worthless if I cannot count on it holding air or being pumped up from empty. 

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

Sorry to hear of your problem.  Is it cocked while you are trying to fill it?  If not, try cocking it and see if you can get it to hold some air.  It's hard to find a leak if you can't get any air into it.

[Firewalker]

Yes, both cocked and de-cocked.  One last try pumping gave me a clue, there is air escaping through the barrel end.

[Bob Pratl]

Yes, both cocked and de-cocked.  One last try pumping gave me a clue, there is air escaping through the barrel end.

David, as most will agree this is a common problem on both new and well used AG's if a microscopic particle gets on the valve seat.
This does not mean that it is defective but only means that it will require a minor repair or slight burnishing of the valve seat.
It happened on my DAR 2 and was easily repaired. It's best to do it yourself so that you be familiar with the disassembly if it happens again.   

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

Yes, both cocked and de-cocked.  One last try pumping gave me a clue, there is air escaping through the barrel end.

It sure sounds like it's leaking air through the valve.  Bob is probably correct in his assessment.  I had this happen with a Marauder.  If you had an air tank or compressor to fill the gun, you could probably fill it faster than the air is escaping and get enough air in the cylinder to dry fire it several times and possible dislodge any debris that might be obstructing the valve.  But hand pumping probably won't work for this purpose.  If you aren't comfortable disassembling the rifle your self, it seems the only recourse is to return it and get another.  This could be an isolated incident and the chances of the replacement having a similar issue if probably very slim.  AIM Sports will stand behind their products, so no worries with getting great service!

[Firewalker]

Nope, I just have a pump and have no access to a compressor while my buddy runs off on guard duty for his annual 2 weeks stint so I'm Sol.

We have a bunch of deer processing places, boat repair shops, sawmills, but the water gets a little hard up here in Minnesota for a lot of diving so no dive shops locally, LOL!

I want to keep my warranty on this gun so I will just send it back and wait for a new one to arrive. I am in no hurry to modify it, I just want some Trigger Time.

[Back_Roads]

 Hmm we have "hard water fishing here, and dive teams to fish them out when they break through the "surface tension. Have you checked with any local volunteer fire/ rescue departments on where they get their air, and if a donation would get you some?

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

Good point, I filled my 90ci tank at the local Fire Department before I got a compressor, but then you'd have to have a tank to fill!  I'm waiting on a return from PA right now, it is frustrating when something new out of the box doesn't work as it should, and even more frustrating waiting on them to ship a replacement, so I understand where you're coming from.  I wish you the best with the replacement and hopefully, they will ship it to you quickly!

[Firewalker]

Correct, no tank and no desire to get one. I am a spry mid-century guy, I cut and split my own wood (100% heat and hot water come from our wood boiler) and I see pumping the reservoir as a challenge and not a chore.

[real7]

David, if you have a conventional shop air compressor  you could disconnect your hose from your hand pump and use a rubber tipped blow gun connected to your compressor to blow air thru your pump hose into your air cylinder. Possibly that would dislodge the debris or get enough air in there to seal so that you could proceed with your hand pump to fill it further.

[Firewalker]

Badda-Bing, Badda-Boom!!!

That did it! Got 150PSI in the tank and started the hand pump to add air, its still flowing from the barrel but slowing down a LOT!

Dry fired it twice and I cannot hear anything coming from the barrel. I think we may have it fixed gents!!

Not to be all gooshy but this is the first forum where the New Guy (me) has gotten good advice without any flame or "use the search bar" prattle and I greatly appreciate it! Shift work for the next several days so no time to shoot but Ill keep an eye on the gauge and see if it remains stable.

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

Badda-Bing, Badda-Boom!!!

That did it! Got 150PSI in the tank and started the hand pump to add air, its still flowing from the barrel but slowing down a LOT!

Dry fired it twice and I cannot hear anything coming from the barrel. I think we may have it fixed gents!!

Not to be all gooshy but this is the first forum where the New Guy (me) has gotten good advice without any flame or "use the search bar" prattle and I greatly appreciate it! Shift work for the next several days so no time to shoot but Ill keep an eye on the gauge and see if it remains stable.

Congrats!  Now fill it to around 2000 - 2500 psi, shoot it down to around 1000 psi and repeat.  If there is any debris in the valve, that should clear it and will also help seat the valve poppet, which will help it seal.  When you are through shooting it, top it off, make a note of the fill pressure on the gauge and let it sit overnight.  If it's still at the same pressure (or close, since pressure will drop a little due to the air cooling in the cylinder) you should be good to go!

[HunterWhite]

Not to be all gooshy but this is the first forum where the New Guy (me) has gotten good advice without any flame or "use the search bar" prattle and I greatly appreciate it!

David, It is a great forum!
I wish that I could find forums on fishing and bicycling that have this family friendly discussions.

Hunter

[crazyhorse1]

David, if you have a conventional shop air compressor  you could disconnect your hose from your hand pump and use a rubber tipped blow gun connected to your compressor to blow air thru your pump hose into your air cylinder. Possibly that would dislodge the debris or get enough air in there to seal so that you could proceed with your hand pump to fill it further.

Brilliant !!!!!  Tip of the year award.

[tracker1955]

I agree, we all struggle with our airguns at some point in time, no one enjoys it when it happens, that's why we're so ready to jump in when one of our brothers is having trouble. Good group here.