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Guys

What does the hammer spring adjustment look like?

Is it similar to the Sentry?

Thanks,
Don

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

Guys

What does the hammer spring adjustment look like?

Is it similar to the Sentry?

Thanks,
Don

It's a threaded plug at the back of the breech, you need to remove the stock to access it and use a spanner wrench to adjust it.

[Nvreloader]

Thanks Paul
For that info...............

To make it easier to adjust the hammer spring, would you need to drill a hole AKA Gentry style for access?

Tia,
Don

[Nvreloader]

Hey Back Roads

Any more info on your 17 cal DAR?

Anyone else have a 17 cal DAR they would care to give their info on?

Thanks,
Don

[buddyb]

Insanity have you shot your DAR without the regulator yet, just wondering about your thoughts on the gun overall?

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

Thanks Paul
For that info...............

To make it easier to adjust the hammer spring, would you need to drill a hole AKA Gentry style for access?

Tia,
Don

If the threaded plug had a hex head or even a slot, I'd say yes, but since it's just 2 dimples that require a spanner type adjuster, it would have to be a pretty good chunk of wood carved off the back of the stock to allow enough access.  The stock is only held on with 1 bolt, so it's not hard to remove to adjust the hammer spring tension. 

[Wayne52]

My DAR .25 gen2 is on my sh%t list, the regulator on it was set way too high, I loosened the bleed screw to degas it, adjusted the regulator on it reassembled, aired it up and it was leaking like a sieve through the bleed screw not I need to get it back out but it's stripped out and I need a screw extractor to get it out, got some ordered.  Beware of working on these guns because as of now I'm not a fan at all, that might change once I get it sealed up, I'll just plug it up when I reassemble it with some teflon tape.  What a hunk of junk it's turning out to be.

[tracker1955]

Bummer, sorry to hear that Wayne, hope you can get it sorted out. I'm waiting to get my action back from Duy for my Liberty, he's working on the valve and poppet for me.

[Back_Roads]

Hey Back Roads

Any more info on your 17 cal DAR?

Anyone else have a 17 cal DAR they would care to give their info on?

Thanks,
Don

Actually I am taking part of the day off from deer hunting and plan on cleaning the barrel, and getting some crony numbers on it today.
 Will post ASAP.

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

My DAR .25 gen2 is on my sh%t list, the regulator on it was set way too high, I loosened the bleed screw to degas it, adjusted the regulator on it reassembled, aired it up and it was leaking like a sieve through the bleed screw not I need to get it back out but it's stripped out and I need a screw extractor to get it out, got some ordered.  Beware of working on these guns because as of now I'm not a fan at all, that might change once I get it sealed up, I'll just plug it up when I reassemble it with some teflon tape.  What a hunk of junk it's turning out to be.

That sounds more like the Gen 1, I had a couple screws that were stripped on those.  I have not degassed mine, but thanks for the heads up, I will definitely proceed with caution if I need to.  I hope you get it worked out.

[Wayne52]

Paul I couldn't believe how tight it was to begin with, the Gen 1's were never that tight.

[nervoustrigger]

Wayne, if you're going to plug the threads, don't use PTFE tape.  It will not develop a seal on straight threads, only tapered (NPT) threads. 

Use either threadlocker or epoxy.  Load some into both the male threads and female threads so they are both fully wetted, then install the grub screw. 

[Wayne52]

Jason I noticed that they're using thread locker on a lot of stuff on them now.  The poppet on the new ones seals against brass rather than the coated aluminum.  There are a lot of changes and parts for these guns definitely won't work on the Gen1's.  Lot of differences on the Gen2's.  The poppet is wider in diameter too than the Gen1.

[Back_Roads]

Hey Back Roads

Any more info on your 17 cal DAR?

Anyone else have a 17 cal DAR they would care to give their info on?

Thanks,
Don

Actually I am taking part of the day off from deer hunting and plan on cleaning the barrel, and getting some crony numbers on it today.
 Will post ASAP.

 OK cleaned & polished the barrel, and gave it a coating of paste wax. Took some 10 fouling shots and the darn thing started grouping like a laser. JSB 13.xx pellets were doing 855 - 870 FPS, the NSA 12.5 slugs were a consistent 858 - 860 FPS 52 shots with 5 FPS extreme spread and laser accurate to top things off. I get 4 - 12 shot mags on the reg.
 From what I can tell it drops off the reg 1250 bar, I get a 12 FPS drop when it goes off reg, so IMO not a bad reg setting for my use.

[cosmic]

Since sometimes you can't tell if there is thread locker on many guns.. Maybe a market for soldering iron, screw driver and hex head bits...

[Dan H]

Thanks Paul
For that info...............

To make it easier to adjust the hammer spring, would you need to drill a hole AKA Gentry style for access?

Tia,
Don

 

If the threaded plug had a hex head or even a slot, I'd say yes, but since it's just 2 dimples that require a spanner type adjuster, it would have to be a pretty good chunk of wood carved off the back of the stock to allow enough access.  The stock is only held on with 1 bolt, so it's not hard to remove to adjust the hammer spring tension.

Paul ... maybe this 1 would work if the pins are the right size ... ,and I wonder if it holds its position well ?

https://www.harborfreight.com/adjustable-pin-wrench-36554.html

[Dan H]

My DAR .25 gen2 is on my sh%t list, the regulator on it was set way too high, I loosened the bleed screw to degas it, adjusted the regulator on it reassembled, aired it up and it was leaking like a sieve through the bleed screw not I need to get it back out but it's stripped out and I need a screw extractor to get it out, got some ordered.  Beware of working on these guns because as of now I'm not a fan at all, that might change once I get it sealed up, I'll just plug it up when I reassemble it with some teflon tape.  What a hunk of junk it's turning out to be.

Sorry to hear this , sounds like what happened to me with the Avenger guns , as soon as I started adjusting things a couple times the gun's developed problems , different problems than you are having , but none the less China ! China ! I don't know what do you do ? ... I think I might just adjust the hammer spring if I need to , and hold off on the reg ...     on both my DAR guns .. I notice in the manual there is nothing on the hammer spring or the regulator , I wonder why not ? .... 

[Wayne52]

Dan the first thing I did was backing out the hammer all the way with no difference, last adjustment on velocity was about 800 fps  so it's close.

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

Thanks Paul
For that info...............

To make it easier to adjust the hammer spring, would you need to drill a hole AKA Gentry style for access?

Tia,
Don

 

If the threaded plug had a hex head or even a slot, I'd say yes, but since it's just 2 dimples that require a spanner type adjuster, it would have to be a pretty good chunk of wood carved off the back of the stock to allow enough access.  The stock is only held on with 1 bolt, so it's not hard to remove to adjust the hammer spring tension.

Paul ... maybe this 1 would work if the pins are the right size ... ,and I wonder if it holds its position well ?

https://www.harborfreight.com/adjustable-pin-wrench-36554.html

Dan,  This is what I used and it did the job:

https://www.harborfreight.com/snap-ring-pliers-with-interchangeable-heads-63845.html

[Dan H]

Thanks Paul
For that info...............

To make it easier to adjust the hammer spring, would you need to drill a hole AKA Gentry style for access?

Tia,
Don

 

If the threaded plug had a hex head or even a slot, I'd say yes, but since it's just 2 dimples that require a spanner type adjuster, it would have to be a pretty good chunk of wood carved off the back of the stock to allow enough access.  The stock is only held on with 1 bolt, so it's not hard to remove to adjust the hammer spring tension.

Paul ... maybe this 1 would work if the pins are the right size ... ,and I wonder if it holds its position well ?

https://www.harborfreight.com/adjustable-pin-wrench-36554.html

Dan,  This is what I used and it did the job:

https://www.harborfreight.com/snap-ring-pliers-with-interchangeable-heads-63845.html

  Cool .... I have a pair of those , I just bought a NOE  20 g hunter mold , I am thinking this will be a good pellet to use in my .22 as Wayne has had great results , and both of us had good  results with the NOE .25  26G hunter ...