DAR Gen II is now available

[Dan H]

Here’s 2 magazines over the Chrony with 15.89 grain Hades. This was done before cleaning the barrel and it’s already starting to group in about. ½” ragged hole.

Shot count: 20
Low: 921
Hi: 939
Avg: 933
Spread: 18
STD Dev: 5.3
921
928
937
939
939
939
932
930
928
937
937
937
937
932
928
928
928
926
935
937

I did clean the barrel and there was a good bit of gunk in the barrel. I’ll shoot some more later today to see if they tightened up any.

How many yards were you shooting from Paul ?

[nervoustrigger]

That’s a nice start.  A sub-2% ES right out of the box with no adjustments.  That suggests to me they are actually setting the hammer spring tension to the velocity knee.  The pre-production one I tested was close but I figured it was sheer coincidence.  If you want to confirm, it’s super easy to adjust the hammer spring, just turn the disc at the back of the receiver.

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

That was 37 yards. I’ll post some picture of the groups later.

This is a 10 shot string using the 18.13 grain JSBs.

Shot count: 10
Low: 888
Hi: 895
Avg: 893
Spread: 7
STD Dev: 2.4
895
895
895
895
891
895
893
893
891
888

 So far the JSB 15.89, 18.13 grains are grouping pretty well. The 15.89 hades are grouping well also.

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

That’s a nice start.  A sub-2% ES right out of the box with no adjustments.  That suggests to me they are actually setting the hammer spring tension to the velocity knee.  The pre-production one I tested was close but I figured it was sheer coincidence.  If you want to confirm, it’s super easy to adjust the hammer spring, just turn the disc at the back of the receiver.

They should have notched the stock at the back of the receiver, it would have made it a lot easier to adjust. If I refinish the stock later on, I may do that.

[nervoustrigger]

Sounds good, and mine likes all 3 of the JSBs you mentioned as well.

Yeah it would be nice to have access to the HST without taking it out of the stock, but at the same time it’s a once and done kind of thing so I can see why they didn’t carve it out.

[oldpro]

 loves the Hades as well and I agree set it once and your done.

[Nvreloader]

Paul/Jason

When to mention the hammer spring adjustment wheel/disc,
is it similar to the Sentry type of adjustment?

I am on the fence and tipping towards the DAR, in 177 caliber.............

Thank,
Don

[Insanity]

I shot a selection of Nicks slugs out of the pre released test gun I had.
I was impressed.

It did not like the FX hybrid slugs.

[Back_Roads]

 Mine in .177 arrived, tossed a UTG red dot on it and did a quick test for function at 10 yards, with 13.xx gr. JSB, in my immediate opinion I like it better than my fine Marauder that cost more.

[Privateer]

This was done before cleaning the barrel and it’s already starting to group in about. ½” ragged hole.

Range?
I ask because I have taken the head off a tiny lizard with a head no bigger then a pellet at 43 yards with a DAR II.
Nervous trigger was there since it was in his back yard.

[Privateer]

I shot a selection of Nicks slugs out of the pre released test gun I had.
I was impressed.

It did not like the FX hybrid slugs.

Those pretty much are a waste of my time. That's why you dumped them on me!

[RichH]

This was done before cleaning the barrel and it’s already starting to group in about. ½” ragged hole.

Range?
I ask because I have taken the head off a tiny lizard with a head no bigger then a pellet at 43 yards with a DAR II.
Nervous trigger was there since it was in his back yard.

I think he answered it here........37yds

https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=179804.msg156046968#msg156046968

[Privateer]

Yeah. I missed that posting.
 
So 37 yards right out of the box brand new, 1/2" group?
Not bad!

[Dan H]

I am sitting here just itching all over waiting for the brown dressed santa claus {UPS guy} to deliver 2 boxes with 2 new DAR guns inside them !  .22 and a .25 it could be at any time ! now !   it seems like they usually get here 3 to 4 but they have till 9 to show up ....  .. ...   

So I have the scopes ready and test fit my thin separate dovetail to pic adapter mounts looks to be good to go .. ... I also finished filling up the rest of my scba tanks running the shoe box for the last 2 days so I have enough air to shoot for  quite a while ...   

[Gertrude]

I am glad to see reports of consistently good grouping across several guns now.

This makes me feel like my efforts in getting this gun up to par over the past couple of years was worth all the headaches.

Happy to see this so far.

[Privateer]

I am glad to see reports of consistently good grouping across several guns now.

This makes me feel like my efforts in getting this gun up to par over the past couple of years was worth all the headaches.

Happy to see this so far.

Well Ron.
I had a chance many did not have! I shot something like 3 or 4 at your place in Arizona.
That included modded and totally stock versions if you recall.
On a job down south, I made a special trip to visit Jason and shoot his DAR II that he worked on.
Then I got home and finally got a .25 sent to test.
So I shot them in many different configurations or states of testing. In many different areas!
The only one that was REALLY bad? That stock DAR II with the crappy barrel that you told me was the hold up.

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

Here's a brief video I did with a 10 shot string shooting the 18.13 grain JSB's at 37 yards.  The average velocity was just under 900 FPS.  This was filmed with my iPhone, so I apologize for the how jerky it seems.  I also doubled the speed on the shooting segment to save time, I wasn't actually shooting that fast!



Below are some 10 shot groups.  The first picture show (from left to right) Usb 15.18, Hades 15.89 and JSB 18.13 grain pellets.

The second picture of the target that was shot in the video.  The video is backwards due to the prism in the Side-Shot phone mount.  The very first shot was the flyer than hit to the right of the rest of the group.

[Dan H]

looks great and shoots pretty accurate for those fast shots you took Paul ....

[Wayne52]

My .25 is about 40 miles north of me right now in Wyoming Mi.  It was scheduled for tomorrow so I'm sure that it'll be here.  I'll be out in the woods with it Friday morning shooting my cast 26 grain Hunters from it.

[Dan H]

Look what the DAR showed up ! ...     you know what ? ...  the wood stocks look much better than I thought they would ! ... VERY WOOD NICE !  very impressed so far ...