Request for advise rgarding .177 CO2

[Novagun]

.177 Co2 rifles at an affordable price are not available here but a BAM 50 PCP is.
Questions;
1. Is a Bam50 a reasonable quality rifle?
2. Would it be feasible to convert an air pcp to a CO@ fill.
3. Would there be difficulty with the plenum size, assuming it has one, in getting a sufficient CO2  charge to make the shot work.

You may well ask why not just go PCP. Answer. Our rules for air powered PCP ownership in NZ are ridiculous hence the interest in CO2.

[Doug Wall]

What about the Beeman QB type rifles?
https://www.u-buy.co.nz/brand/beeman?q=beeman&brand=beeman

[fivestar45]

In your predicament my choices would be bulk filling either a QB78 or a Benjamin/Crosman Discovery.

[Novagun]

There is now a question before the NZ Police asking if a converted pcp to CO@ is legal. I don't think there will be a reply. They would wait and then prosecute and let the court decide.
QB78s and Crosman/ Benjamin Discoveries are not available here. The small ratcatcher Crosmans are but they are in .22.
Next recourse after chasing up the Police will be a call to the Flying Dragon.
We can import CO2 rifles into NZ without restriction but CO@ pistols are a big NO. Used second hand pistols here are being sold at asking prices in the thousands ($). New ones are from import by the Police. Clever people are making their own for HPA and they are seriously powerful.

[fivestar45]

There is now a question before the NZ Police asking if a converted pcp to CO@ is legal. I don't think there will be a reply. They would wait and then prosecute and let the court decide.
QB78s and Crosman/ Benjamin Discoveries are not available here. The small ratcatcher Crosmans are but they are in .22.
Next recourse after chasing up the Police will be a call to the Flying Dragon.
We can import CO2 rifles into NZ without restriction but CO@ pistols are a big NO. Used second hand pistols here are being sold at asking prices in the thousands ($). New ones are from import by the Police. Clever people are making their own for HPA and they are seriously powerful.

If Flying Dragon will ship to you , another rifle to consider would be the XS60c in .177

[Taso1000]

Hey Hugh!

You can still buy new B50's and B51's from the Canadian Airgun Forum Store:

https://www.airgunforum.ca/store/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=98&osCsid=e822b2bec62738ba9843dea7c713b83e

https://www.airgunforum.ca/store/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=99

They start at $225 Canadian dollars plus shipping.   

I bought 3 a couple of years ago and the one I opened up needed all the seals replaced.  I would say they are new old stock.  The o-rings were either crumbling or turned to jelly but somehow still held air.  I'm sure the first pressure cycle would cause them to leak from all different places.

They also are oversprung from the factory and should be retuned with lighter springs to live a long healthy life.

Tuning to work with co2 shouldn't be a problem if you aren't looking for max power, but I am not a c02 expert.  I'm sure others will chime in.

The B50/51's are all steel with an aluminum valve body and pressure tube caps.  They are built like tanks and will last a long time if taken care of properly.

Thanks,

Taso

[Rob M]

.177 Co2 rifles at an affordable price are not available here but a BAM 50 PCP is.
Questions;
1. Is a Bam50 a reasonable quality rifle?
2. Would it be feasible to convert an air pcp to a CO@ fill.
3. Would there be difficulty with the plenum size, assuming it has one, in getting a sufficient CO2  charge to make the shot work.

You may well ask why not just go PCP. Answer. Our rules for air powered PCP ownership in NZ are ridiculous hence the interest in CO2.

sounds like a pcp smuggling operation would be quite lucrative (-'