Examples plese, o storing spring guns muzzle facing down

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Hello
It's my understanding from reading in the forums that spring rifles (gas piston too?) are best stored with the muzzle facing downwards.
If any of you have a good example of what you have done to accomplish this, please post some photos.
I'm intersted in free standing rack type arrangements as well as wall (or behind door) methods.
However don't rule out other solutions.
If it works  for you I'd like to see it
Thanks
Ed

[Blowpipe Sam]

I don't have photos but I use an old 10 gun display cabinet that my wife found.  There is a fiddle that runs across the case and provides 10 notches to hold either the barrel or the stock.  New springers are always stored muzzle down for the first couple of months.  This lets oil migrate downward toward the muzzle under the influence of gravity.  This speeds up the break in process and reduces dieseling as excess oil collects at the lowest points and is blown out the barrel with each successive shot.   After that my springers are stored horizontally on wall racks with a slight muzzle down bias.  I'll post a picture after I get home this evening.

[avator]

Never heard of such nonsense. I've always stored my guns in one of 3 ways and never muzzle down.
1) In a case and flat under a bed.
2) In a cabinet/gun stand standing on the butt.
3) Sideways on a wall hanging rack.
Maybe this is why all my guns are junk and should be tossed in the burn pile.   

[Lt. Dan]

Never heard of such nonsense. I've always stored my guns in one of 3 ways and never muzzle down.
1) In a case and flat under a bed.
2) In a cabinet/gun stand standing on the butt.
3) Sideways on a wall hanging rack.
Maybe this is why all my guns are junk and should be tossed in the burn pile.   

LOL, same here.

[Yarddog]

Never heard of such nonsense. I've always stored my guns in one of 3 ways and never muzzle down.
1) In a case and flat under a bed.
2) In a cabinet/gun stand standing on the butt.
3) Sideways on a wall hanging rack.
Maybe this is why all my guns are junk and should be tossed in the burn pile.   

Nor have I.  Mine are stored butt down.  The initial shooting of a couple of dozen rounds takes care of the oil.  I reckon one can chase minutia as much as possible, and if that's in one's comfort zone, it's all good. 

[CraigH]

It has been mentioned years ago in the firearms community that storing guns muzzle down keeps oils and solvents from getting into the wood of the gun over very long periods of time.

[avator]

I don't think that's an issue around the GTA... us airgunners tend to SHOOT our guns quite regularly.... 

[fwbsport]

This was a fad with smokeless rifles around the 70's, in Nevada you'd see hunting rifles that were costly (like the Weatherby MK V's from either Japan or GE) stored on display butts up!  During that time I did store a .270 that way and later realized it was the reason my muzzle was stained rust! Wish I'd left it on the butt on the floor!

Getting back into air rifles in the 80s this sort of upside practice was not done as if the practice was a fad.

However someone here (it may be Hector and or Dave) replied to the subject explaining that before shooting a rifle in storage we should turn the rifle in this manner the night before shooting to make sure the oils and such are "forward".

[avator]

Hopefully those oils don't sneak past the seal in a springer and get blown out the barrel.

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Thanks to each of you for your replies.
Considering that the primary response is that barrel down storage of springers is hog wash, I am going to stop thinking about it.
Unless some compelling evidence to the contrary shows up.

Blowpipe Sam
Post some pix of your cabinet, please, if not too much trouble
I remain curious about it.

Take care everyone
Ed

[avator]

Yeah Ed.... other than the arguments for oils seeping into the wood during long term storage, I see no benefit. However, now being on my 4th or 5th wife (lost count) I have been wrong before... 

[Blowpipe Sam]

Hogwash?  Hmmm.  I'll get some pictures of the oil stains on the felt pads.  I estimate that your new, cheap, chinese springer will drip about a half an ounce of oil when stored muzzle down for a few nights.  If you want to burn it all up dieseling (along with your piston seal) be my guest.  I just break triggers.

[Blowpipe Sam]

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Hogwash?  Hmmm.  I'll get some pictures of the oil stains on the felt pads.  I estimate that your new, cheap, chinese springer will drip about a half an ounce of oil when stored muzzle down for a few nights.  If you want to burn it all up dieseling (along with your piston seal) be my guest.  I just break triggers.

Yeah Ed.... other than the arguments for oils seeping into the wood during long term storage, I see no benefit. However, now being on my 4th or 5th wife (lost count) I have been wrong before... 

Aha!
We now have compelling evidence

Thanks Blowpipe Sam, I look forward to the photos
And will not let you near my trigger.

Thanks too, avator
You may not break triggers, but you sure seem to pull 'em real fast.
Proof positive that marriage is the primary cause of divorce.

BTW
I learned in a PM that Gas Piston rifles definitely need to be stored muzzle down

So that gets back to the reason for starting this thread in the first place
I'd like to see successful examples of muzzle down storage
Free standing, wall or behind door mount, suspended from closet rod.........
Anything members think works well
How about carousel??

Thanks again
Ed

[Frank in Fairfield]

Way back, a long time ago, Beeman sold Pena-Dry (product# 9100).
This was a black liquid which included polymers.
Nasty stuff.
You were supposed to cock your R1 and put five-ten drops in the chamber.
Operate the barrel cocking mechanism several times to spread the mess around the compression chamber.
Leave the gun un-cocked with the barrel down so that most of the liquid flowed into and through then out of the barrel by morning.
This was supposed to fill all of the scratches in the chamber and make a nice smooth surface for the piston seal to slide on.
I tried it and still have about a half a bottle.
I do not know if it worked or not.
The first couple of shots after the application were quite smokey.
That was only time I was told to store barrel down.
BTW..My handguns are stored laying on their sides and the long guns stand up....Except the .54 Renegade which is stored horizontally below the antelope mounts..

[Blowpipe Sam]

This rack is normally used to store my PB's in an upright position.  But I can stick any of my springers in it muzzle down.  The guns in the photo are there to demonstrate how it works.  I usually use the last station on the right to store springers during the break in period.  Note here, I only store new springers this way temporarily until they stop dieseling.

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This rack is normally used to store my PB's in an upright position.  But I can stick any of my springers in it muzzle down.  The guns in the photo are there to demonstrate how it works.  I usually use the last station on the right to store springers during the break in period.  Note here, I only store new springers this way temporarily until they stop dieseling.

Thanks Carter
The  pix were helpful.
And the note above is just what I needed to read

That was only time I was told to store barrel down.

Thanks, Frank

[Ribbonstone]

Too many guns.....found you could get more in a vertical safe if you used the sardine style (one up/one down/one up.....)so about 1/2 of them are stored muzzle down.....problem being ,when I put them back,may end up muzzle up next time.

If they are so delicate that how you store them really makes a difference...then let Darwin rule.

[fwbsport]

I did store my Theoben with muzzle down a couple times ago just to see if it made a difference.  In my case it didn't but consider the fact I regularly shoot it and don't leave it alone very long.

[Back_Roads]

 Best thing to do is keep er moving  Even if it is a few times a year.