22 or 25 cal

[squirrel_hunter]

Y'all must have some sociable coyotes. In the deserts of SoCal, I've rarely seen one that would let me take a good shot at it under ~100 yds in the past 45 years.

I live in the woods and can rarely see 100 yards most times of the year.if I cant see they cant see me if I still and they looking for food roaming the thick cover where most of their meals hide out.

[mackeral5]

Update. The wife ordered me one with out me knowing and it came this Saturday. It’s the 22cal  so maybe I’ll get a 25 cal next year lol. Holly cow is all I can say this thing is nice. Little background about myself army recon sniper / hunted sense age 8. Live on a farm. So I know a little about stuff. Got into air rifles because of a paper I had to do in college before that the only BB gun I ever shot was a red rider when I was a lil kid. Now I have 2 Springer a 1322 and now this. Oh what a rabbit hole I have found. So off to Troy hammer it goes. Thanks guys for all the info.

Hard to argue with the wife buying you a gun.  Congrats. 

Perhaps Troy can get it to sling JSB Monster Redesigned in the >850fps range?  Then you won't miss too much in it being a .22 vs .25....

[crazyhorse1]

Y'all must have some sociable coyotes. In the deserts of SoCal, I've rarely seen one that would let me take a good shot at it under ~100 yds in the past 45 years.

Fact that !!! 

[anti-squirrel]

Y'all must have some sociable coyotes. In the deserts of SoCal, I've rarely seen one that would let me take a good shot at it under ~100 yds in the past 45 years.

I live in the woods and can rarely see 100 yards most times of the year.if I cant see they cant see me if I still and they looking for food roaming the thick cover where most of their meals hide out.

Same here!  Here in central VA, the underbrush is often so thick you're within 30 yards of a song-dog before you see it dart away, and their pelts litter the back roads.  They're common enough that my girlfriend and I have seen them darting across roads while we cruise on our longboard skateboards, especially in Charles City County.  Out there in CA and the Western states, they have much less cover so they are much more skittish.

I'm considering the .30 barrel for my Leshiy and going big on the power specifically for coyote, but they aren't quite a nuisance yet.  To expand on what Manny said, you can make a bigger bore do what a smaller one does more easily than making a smaller one do what a bigger one does.

[AndyKunz]

Update. The wife ordered me one with out me knowing and it came this Saturday.

Sounds like she's a keeper!  Make her proud!

Andy

[Blowpipe Sam]

Down here in Flarda coyotes have no natural enemies except us.  They are shy but they just can't resist our garbage cans or our chicken coop.  They haven't managed to get into the coop but they regularly turn over our trash.  My main coyote deterrent is our 75 lb. Akita mix.  I occasionally see a coyote in my security lights at night.  The range is rarely more than 35 yards.  They are light shy and they move quick when the motion sensor controlled lights come on.  A snap shot at a running dog at night is pretty iffy.  I'd want a shotgun for that.  It's easier to open the door and let Flytrap loose.  She loves to chase coyotes. 

[Ribbonstone]

HAve a .22 coming.....just get some of the heavier weight pellets to test.  May find you aren't going to care if it's a .22 or a .25.

Agree about the 'yotes. Seldom see them in day light, very very seldom at close range,and at night I need to visually identify anything I shoot at night (saves on angry dog owners).

Tend to not-airgun big moving critters,if it's legal to shoot them than I don't care how loud the shot is.


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Carter: The coyotes do get into places they shouldn't be, like samps/marshes....but if the Florida "gartors can snag one, they'll eat it just as well as Louisiana 'gators will.

[Blowpipe Sam]

HAve a .22 coming.....just get some of the heavier weight pellets to test.  May find you aren't going to care if it's a .22 or a .25.

Agree about the 'yotes. Seldom see them in day light, very very seldom at close range,and at night I need to visually identify anything I shoot at night (saves on angry dog owners).

Tend to not-airgun big moving critters,if it's legal to shoot them than I don't care how loud the shot is.


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Carter: The coyotes do get into places they shouldn't be, like samps/marshes....but if the Florida "gartors can snag one, they'll eat it just as well as Louisiana 'gators will.

I agree about the gators.  They prefer fuzzy four legged stuff to eat.  I just don't think they are much of a check on the coyote population.  From what I can see by the side of the road, the principle threat to coyotes comes from Detroit.

[Ribbonstone]

Aligators don't seem a check on the 'yotes...just don't live in the same area.  Got a lost/dumb one that wanders too close,am sure a hungry 'gator would snatch him (they aren't noted for being picky eating habits).


On the other hand,I'll eat a 'gator.

Not airgun specific....did have part ownership of a deer hunting lease/camp.  Once or twice a year we'd thin out the predators.

Could be lost/abandoned/feral dogs (which always ran in a pack) or coyotes (which ran solo)...but it was't an airgun kind of cull,even though I think the feral dogs were more of a deer-killer.

Just thought of it as a job to do...airguns just weren't the right coyote tools.

[redlined_b16a]

Here is my take:

I have killed two coyotes with a .22 shooting barracuda 21 grain at 33ft lbs.
One shot in the brain between the ear and eye.
Instant drop.

Other shot in between the eyes.
Instant drop
Both 30-40 yards

Yes a .22 can do it but us not really ideal for that size animal.

My .25 caliber at 46 ft lbs I only use it to hunt rabbits,squirrels and never found a yote opportunity yet.
With that said I would not plan a yote trip with either of those guns.

My .22 is my goto plinker and target gun out to 120 yards on a perfect day.I got lucky and my at44 likes cheap Crosman cphp ammo ($7 for 500 locally)but tuned at 26ft lbs.

The .25 Bullboss however only likes JSB which means its pricey to plink with so its a hunter only.($19 per 350 plus shipping).

My .357 bulldog shooting .380 88grain bullets at $56 shipped for 500 rounds will handle all my game needs.Shooting at 160ft lbs
If i need to shoot hog or deer i up the power to 245ftlbs with 158 grain .38 cal I resize to .357(at academy $32 for 300 rounds)

Problem with a big bore........be alot more cautious where you shoot.......whats 200 yards behind your target?
My points are:
.22 is the more economical choice,more ammo choices,uses less air(Not recommended to go looking for yotes)
.25 a true hunting powerplant in the 40 plus ft lb range.Ammo is pricey to waste.Not recommened to go look for yotes but small hogs and yotes are doable.

.357 around 100 ft lbs shooting 10 cent per round 380 bullets would be good,turn the power up for larger game.Treat it like a .22 Long Rifle or a .38 pistol.
Would you shoot either in the area you plan to hunt?
I know a .357 was not in question in this topic but Coyote in my opinion needs a .30 cal and up to ensure a humane kill.I would Not hunt yotes with pellets unless the gun is putting out atleast 150ish ft lbs which a bulldog will do out the box for about 20 rounds.The bullets I use are cheaper and much better than pellets.Unless you need close range power pellets are great but $20 plus shipping for 100

With that said the .22 puncher bullpup is a very nice gun for the value and is on my list for sure.

[Long_Gun_Dallas]

To address the OP, I would not get that gun.  I'd find something with better support (parts availability)

A .25 will always be able to do what a .22 do

a .22 will not always be able to do what a .25 does.

Wouldnt less surface area equate to more penetration in some scenarios?  MY 22 sending 21gr slugs @1111fps has some pretty ridiculous penetration

[Long_Gun_Dallas]

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[Dan H]

Out of what I actually own , I would use my badger .40 cal  using my cast 150 g bullet at 950 fps , or a 196 g flat nose Bobs bullet design that I had accurate mold make in a flat nose instead of hollow point ... FPS is close to 900 fps  shot out of the badger around 350 FPE ...
 
Now if the yote was getting my chickens I would get even with the Ranger .45 800 FPE  ...     this one would be especially use full if you got lucky ,and had 3 of them lined up side ways ...

.30 Carnivore would have no problem taking a yote down ,and really might be the best match for the gun vs yote .... .25 would be bare minimum with a well placed shot ...

The only way I would use a .22 would be with heavier slugs at the 950-1000 fps range with a well placed shot ...