Air Venturi has set the bar for inexpensive top notch PCP with the Avenger !!!

[Dan H]

Stock looks AMAZING !     bench shooting will be fun ,and more accurate/stable  with that stock at the longer distances …  Stephen I know that stock  took a lot of work , congrats on the out come its AWESOME ! LOOKING !  … 

[Hajimoto]

Holy shizite that looks awesome!
Nice freaking job Stephen!

[AVS Stephen]

Thank you Wayne, Dan and Haji

Fun Project and not that hard too do. The Inletting is easier than the Liberty since the channel is a constant 1.03" in width.

[RunsOnAir]

This is a gorgeous stock you made. It would have looked gorgeous even without such a gorgeous wood: those lines are just beautiful in and by themselves.
Did I say gorgeous?

[soarwitheagles]

Either this gun is not as good as many people say or I must have gotten a total lemon .25 Air Venturi Avenger air rifle.  So disappointed.

Here is my experience so far:

1. Every scope mounted must have elevation knob turned nearly 100% up and even then, some scopes will not be able to be adjusted enough without a shim or major mod.
2. Much, much louder than a .25 Marauder or .25 Flashpup.
3. Significantly less accurate than .25 Marauder or .25 Flashpup.
4. I am only obtaining 12-16 shots before I need to reload with air [drops from 3000 to 2200 with a measly 12-16 shots].  Marauder gets 20-30 shots, Flashpup gets 30-40 and both are stock, without any mods...
5. It arrived with a huge gap between the barrel and the receiver/breech box.
6. Inserting and removing the magazine is challenging due to super tight fit.
7. Many allen screws were loose upon arrival.

For a brand new gun, I am unhappy with it.

Both my Marauder [5 years ago] and Flashpup [2 years ago] arrived perfect and shoot single shot holes easily up to 50 yards even to this day without any mods or adjustments].

Some of the things I like about the new .25 Air Venturi Avenger air rifle:

Cocking mechanism is super, super nice.  Super easy!
Significantly lighter than other air rifles.

I am seriously considering returning this lemon....

Let me know if anyone has any recommendations...

Thanks,

Up, up, and away!

Soar

[avator]

You purchased from R&L ? Contact Randy and return it. Ask for a replacement or go another direction.
I would hate to see anyone not enjoy this gun as much as I do.

[mrbulk]

Either this gun is not as good as many people say or I must have gotten a total lemon .25 Air Venturi Avenger air rifle.  So disappointed.

Here is my experience so far:

1. Every scope mounted must have elevation knob turned nearly 100% up and even then, some scopes will not be able to be adjusted enough without a shim or major mod.
2. Much, much louder than a .25 Marauder or .25 Flashpup.
3. Significantly less accurate than .25 Marauder or .25 Flashpup.
4. I am only obtaining 12-16 shots before I need to reload with air [drops from 3000 to 2200 with a measly 12-16 shots].  Marauder gets 20-30 shots, Flashpup gets 30-40 and both are stock, without any mods...
5. It arrived with a huge gap between the barrel and the receiver/breech box.
6. Inserting and removing the magazine is challenging due to super tight fit.
7. Many allen screws were loose upon arrival.

For a brand new gun, I am unhappy with it.

Both my Marauder [5 years ago] and Flashpup [2 years ago] arrived perfect and shoot single shot holes easily up to 50 yards even to this day without any mods or adjustments].

Some of the things I like about the new .25 Air Venturi Avenger air rifle:

Cocking mechanism is super, super nice.  Super easy!
Significantly lighter than other air rifles.

I am seriously considering returning this lemon....

Let me know if anyone has any recommendations...

Thanks,

Up, up, and away!

Soar

Could you kindly share exactly how your gun is set up? Meaning what is its regulator pressure and number of hammer spring turns set at? Truly curious, especially since your cocking is, "...super, super nice.  Super easy!
Significantly lighter than other air rifles."

To me this at least indicates low tension on the hammer spring.

Also you mention that it, "...drops from 3000 to 2200 with a measly 12-16 shots...", so do you mean you are only charging it to 3000 psi? Because the full charge is actually 4351 psi...

[soarwitheagles]

Either this gun is not as good as many people say or I must have gotten a total lemon .25 Air Venturi Avenger air rifle.  So disappointed.

Here is my experience so far:

1. Every scope mounted must have elevation knob turned nearly 100% up and even then, some scopes will not be able to be adjusted enough without a shim or major mod.
2. Much, much louder than a .25 Marauder or .25 Flashpup.
3. Significantly less accurate than .25 Marauder or .25 Flashpup.
4. I am only obtaining 12-16 shots before I need to reload with air [drops from 3000 to 2200 with a measly 12-16 shots].  Marauder gets 20-30 shots, Flashpup gets 30-40 and both are stock, without any mods...
5. It arrived with a huge gap between the barrel and the receiver/breech box.
6. Inserting and removing the magazine is challenging due to super tight fit.
7. Many allen screws were loose upon arrival.

For a brand new gun, I am unhappy with it.

Both my Marauder [5 years ago] and Flashpup [2 years ago] arrived perfect and shoot single shot holes easily up to 50 yards even to this day without any mods or adjustments].

Some of the things I like about the new .25 Air Venturi Avenger air rifle:

Cocking mechanism is super, super nice.  Super easy!
Significantly lighter than other air rifles.

I am seriously considering returning this lemon....

Let me know if anyone has any recommendations...

Thanks,

Up, up, and away!

Soar

Could you kindly share exactly how your gun is set up? Meaning what is its regulator pressure and number of hammer spring turns set at? Truly curious, especially since your cocking is, "...super, super nice.  Super easy!
Significantly lighter than other air rifles."

To me this at least indicates low tension on the hammer spring.

Also you mention that it, "...drops from 3000 to 2200 with a measly 12-16 shots...", so do you mean you are only charging it to 3000 psi? Because the full charge is actually 4351 psi...

Mr. Bulk,

So sorry for such a long delay in my reply!  I apologize as I just now found your message.

If I remember correctly, I installed a different scope and the Avenger has worked perfectly ever since then.

I never tuned or adjusted any settings at all on my Avenger simply because it has worked perfectly for over a one year period.

Yes, I can only charge the Avenger to 3000 PSI because that is all my SCUBA tanks hold.

Finally, I purchased this Avenger over one year ago and was shocked to see so many negative posts about it.  My Avenger has worked perfectly [I often shoot it on a daily basis] ever since I mounted a new scope.

I would like to purchase the new Avenger Bullpup, but it is double the price I paid for the Avenger [$400 vs. $199].

Hope this helps!

[buddyb]

Just picked up my second .22 Avenger from Baker Airguns and love the guns thus far. I have one set up for the JSB 18.13 gr pellets at 35.88 fpe and the second one set up to shoot the JSB 25.39 pellets at 40.38 fpe. Both guns are very accurate to shoot. I really like the tune ability of the guns as well as the light weight and accuracy.

[johnbrown]

The Avenger is designed and manufactured by Nova Vista (a Chinese company) and sold under the Air Venturi brand (owned by Pyramid Air).
So, Air Venturi as a distributor does not really set any bars for anything other than selling.

Before Air Venturi there was Nova Liberty almost identical to the Avenger, with some minor differences related to adjustability.
I have 4 Nova Liberty and 2 Avengers and I like the Nova Liberty at least as much and likely more than the Avenger.

The Avenger is very good for the $350 it costs but the Nova Liberty was great for the less than $250 it was sold.

[Harv24]

Thank you Wayne, Dan and Haji

Fun Project and not that hard too do. The Inletting is easier than the Liberty since the channel is a constant 1.03" in width.

Very well done on the stock...
And Thanks for all the videos and the effort you put into them, I appreciate it and enjoy them, and I've learned a lot of good info...

[Trucker3573]

It’s literally uncanny how nice the triggers are and how stupid accurate the avengers are. My 22 is that way with expensive or cheap crosman pellets. I so wish I would have bought a 25 avenger.  Everything in me said too but I wanted something different so I went with a DAR. The avenger is so so so much nicer and more accurate. Really kicking myself.  I knew better and did it anyway.

[Nomadic Pirate]

Funny how a couple people say so much bad stuff about Avengers but in totality there's a ton of people that really praise the guns.

[T3PRanch]

My Avenger is a strange one. It leaks all the air from the unregulated side to atmosphere over a month or 2 time. The regulated side holds air fine all the time even with the unregulated side drained. I have used spray leak detector on it and have yet to find the leak to atmosphere.

[avator]

As with all my PCP guns.. I don't top them off after a shooting session. I just put them away as they are and fill them before the next session.
I shot the heck out of my Avenger and the Air Speed this weekend. I put a dozen or so mini beer cans upside down on nails in a 4x4 at around 40yds. out from my sniper's blind and shot the snot out of them. Sometimes a shot or 2 would knock them off the nail and sometimes the can would get completely shredded. Didn't take long to run through a couple tins of 200.

[JimD]

I really like my 25 Avenger and as they are tuned, it is my most powerful air rifle at 45-50 fpe.  It was not hard to get to that power level, the regulator is only set to 2100 psi.  I also like the fact that it will regularly put 3 FX 25.4 grain pellets into a 1/4 inch group at 33 meters.  I like the trigger, once I put in a long enough sear engagement screw.  I like having a gauge for the regulator and one for the tanks and that neither of them is on the barrel end of the gun.  I like having a screw to adjust the regulator right on the bottom of the gun and a fairly accessable screw adjustment for the hammer spring.  The trigger adjustment screws are not very useful IMHO.  The only way I could figure out to get to a reasonable trigger pull was a longer sear adjustment screw. 

I do not like that noise it makes.  Without a moderator is is about 110db.  With one it is still 95db.  I shoot it in my backyard some but it isn't really very back yard friendly.

I do not like the length.  With the moderator it is about 4 feet long.  The length makes it easier to shoot from the bench but pretty ungainly.

I do not like the stock, mine is plastic.  I don't mind plastic stocks but this one is very thin, has too many pieces and screws and I cannot see how it could fit anybody well.  The comb is about an inch to low for me (scope is in medium rings).  I also need more length of pull but others would not.

I do not like the shot count.  Filling to 300 bar is not very practical unless you want to fill directly from a compressor (I fill from a SCBA tank).  A larger diameter storage tank would have been a better idea than a tiny short one and a long one of equally small diameter.

I don't like the fact that mine leaked pretty badly when I got it and it cost me about $30 and 5 weeks to get it fixed.  But it works fine now.

I think it is a very good gun for the $300 I paid for mine.  But it is far from perfect.  Lots of room for improvement.  It has a lot of features and capability for the price but it is kind of crude and the materials used in some places is not very confidence inspiring.  As AV keeps going up in price, I think other guns may be better deals.   

[gendoc]

i'm on my second one now...been about 2 weeks, this one is a .177 and its just as accurate as the .22 i had back in the beginning of its production.
only complaint i have with both the .22 & the .177 is regulator creep !!!
the .22 creeped up and the .177 creeps down. so it might need a return trip to PA for a fix.
i use my guns for hunting, so 1st shot needs to be the best.
thats why i sold the .22, it needed a new home.
hopefully the .177 can be repaired.
i have not touched any adjustments.....out of the box its shooting jsb 10.34 @ 970fps
thru 3 mags accurately.
makes for a nice pester on the farm.

[johnbrown]

I have 2 Avengers (.22 and .177).
I think it's very good for the $300 I paid.
The only part I don't like so much is the stock, which is almost from the same kind of plastic (not synthetic) used in a Daisy 880 or Crosman 760.
I also don't like that the air tube is as long as the shroud (same diameter too) which makes it look like a rifle with 2 barrels, and makes it harder to use an LDC (which needs to be taken off when filling the gun).

I also have several Nova Liberty (very similar to the Avenger) and believe they are just as good or better and have better/chunkier stock with a single 210cc air tube.
No idea why they decided to have 2 air tubes in the Avenger.

[Trucker3573]

Either this gun is not as good as many people say or I must have gotten a total lemon .25 Air Venturi Avenger air rifle.  So disappointed.

Here is my experience so far:

1. Every scope mounted must have elevation knob turned nearly 100% up and even then, some scopes will not be able to be adjusted enough without a shim or major mod.
2. Much, much louder than a .25 Marauder or .25 Flashpup.
3. Significantly less accurate than .25 Marauder or .25 Flashpup.
4. I am only obtaining 12-16 shots before I need to reload with air [drops from 3000 to 2200 with a measly 12-16 shots].  Marauder gets 20-30 shots, Flashpup gets 30-40 and both are stock, without any mods...
5. It arrived with a huge gap between the barrel and the receiver/breech box.
6. Inserting and removing the magazine is challenging due to super tight fit.
7. Many allen screws were loose upon arrival.

For a brand new gun, I am unhappy with it.

Both my Marauder [5 years ago] and Flashpup [2 years ago] arrived perfect and shoot single shot holes easily up to 50 yards even to this day without any mods or adjustments].

Some of the things I like about the new .25 Air Venturi Avenger air rifle:

Cocking mechanism is super, super nice.  Super easy!
Significantly lighter than other air rifles.

I am seriously considering returning this lemon....

Let me know if anyone has any recommendations...

Thanks,

Up, up, and away!

Soar

16 shots on 800 psi is bad for a 25 ? No way a flash or marauder does much better unless tuned like a total &%%$&* cat.
The scope problem was evident on mine. Just had to tighten the picatiny rails on the receiver and problem solved.

[avator]

Barring a couple shortcomings, such as the toy-like plastic stock to keep the cost down, it's a heck of alot of gun for $300 give or take.
Think about it... what is arguably the most popular and best selling pumper out there? A plastic $35 Daisy 880. Many consider that gun a toy. If that's the case, alot of us grown ups still have toys that we love to play with.
Somehow, the Avenger puts a big smile on my face everytime I shoot it... just like my 880s do and there was no refinancing involved in owning them.... 
Pair a $300 PCP with a $300 YH compressor and you get priceless gits and shiggles.... at least I do.