Air Venturi has set the bar for inexpensive top notch PCP with the Avenger !!!

[soarwitheagles]

Gentlemen, I have been following this thread closely!

I spoke with Randy and immediately ordered a new .25 Avenger yesterday.  He assured me it would arrive by Monday.  Wow, can't beat that!  He is a great guy to talk to and has a wealth of experience and knowledge.

I have a question...

Some years ago, I purchased a shipload of the BSA scopes when Midway had that crazy sale.  If I remember correctly, they dropped the price to $29.99 at one point and that is why I purchased so many of them.

I still have a bunch of them new in the box and to be honest with you, I have never even tried them.  Simply got way to busy.

I purchased two types of models:

BSA TMD 624 x 44 x 30SP
BSA TMD 312 x 44 x 30SP

Presently, I have been using 4 x 16 x 40 scopes on my Marauder and Flash Pup.  Each scope [UTG and CP] have worked perfect for my needs [turkeys, possums, skunks].  Most shots are between 30 and 60 yards.

So here is my question:  Would the Center Point 3 x 12 x44 be a better scope from the Avenger or would I be ok with one of the BSA scopes?

Last question: I recently purchased a Ruger .243 new and on sale from Big 5.  Would the BSA TMD 624 x 44 x 30SP work on the .243 Ruger?

Thank you,

Soar

[Wayne52]

I got mine on ebay for 86bucks and tax, came out to $90 shipped.

[Dan H]

Gentlemen, I have been following this thread closely!

I spoke with Randy and immediately ordered a new .25 Avenger yesterday.  He assured me it would arrive by Monday.  Wow, can't beat that!  He is a great guy to talk to and has a wealth of experience and knowledge.

I have a question...

Some years ago, I purchased a shipload of the BSA scopes when Midway had that crazy sale.  If I remember correctly, they dropped the price to $29.99 at one point and that is why I purchased so many of them.

I still have a bunch of them new in the box and to be honest with you, I have never even tried them.  Simply got way to busy.

I purchased two types of models:

BSA TMD 624 x 44 x 30SP
BSA TMD 312 x 44 x 30SP

Presently, I have been using 4 x 16 x 40 scopes on my Marauder and Flash Pup.  Each scope [UTG and CP] have worked perfect for my needs [turkeys, possums, skunks].  Most shots are between 30 and 60 yards.

So here is my question:  Would the Center Point 3 x 12 x44 be a better scope from the Avenger or would I be ok with one of the BSA scopes?

Last question: I recently purchased a Ruger .243 new and on sale from Big 5.  Would the BSA TMD 624 x 44 x 30SP work on the .243 Ruger?

Thank you,

Soar

I am sure you could use the bsa on both guns if you like .... The CP has been tested with 300 mag guns , and larger ,and had no problem holding zero ...

[Norcal]

Ordered a .22 Avenger & four extra mags from Randy @ RL Airguns this morning and he doesn't mess around - UPS is supposed to deliver it this Saturday! What do you guys recommend new owners check before shooting - I thought I had read something about some screws weren't tight or something like that?

Well, the good news is UPS got my rifle to me this afternoon and it had 2600lbs of air so if it's leaking it can't be a lot depending on how much it left the Chinese factory with. The not-so-good news is I went to check the tiny screws holding the picatinny scope-mounting rails on and the two on the forward section are too short to engage the threads in the top of the breech block . Heading to Ace Hardware now to see if I can find slightly longer ones but don't know what thread pitch/size to look for so hope I can match the existing ones up.

[Dan H]

I wonder why they didn't have long enough screws for that pic rail ? , I was able to tighten all of mine up , and I have not had the pic rail screws all the way out to see if they are all the same length ,  they really need to get their assembly guys to pay attention,  and get the  hex screws torqued correctly up, they would have caught this wrong pic screws off quickly if they were torqueing the screws down correctly , stupid little things like this are very avoidable ...

[tracker1955]

My first thought was were the screws too short or did they strip the threads. Chinese gun = metric threads so don't buy SAE.

[Norcal]

The picatinny screws are M3 pitch. Ace had some twice as long which are a little too long so I carefully ground/filed off a 16th or so at a time and test fit until I got them snugged tight & flush. Mounted up a BSA 4-14X44mm FFP scope and can't wait to shoot it!

Regulator came set at around 2400psi but I don't have a Compressor yet so am initially only going to be filling to 3000-3200psi. Saw Hard Air Magazine did a Hand Pump Power Tune that yielded about 74 shots @ 23.92 Ft/Lbs so am going to bleed it down tomorrow and try that tune for now.

[mrbulk]

wow, mine were all there and tight but it was "old stock" not from this newest shipment

[Dan H]

The picatinny screws are M3 pitch. Ace had some twice as long which are a little too long so I carefully ground/filed off a 16th or so at a time and test fit until I got them snugged tight & flush. Mounted up a BSA 4-14X44mm FFP scope and can't wait to shoot it!

Regulator came set at around 2400psi but I don't have a Compressor yet so am initially only going to be filling to 3000-3200psi. Saw Hard Air Magazine did a Hand Pump Power Tune that yielded about 74 shots @ 23.92 Ft/Lbs so am going to bleed it down tomorrow and try that tune for now.

David glad you got it figured out ,and were able to fix it , lets hope the manufacture see's this thread and corrects QC on the assembly line ... 

[Wayne52]

When I disassembled mine down to the block that holds the valve poppet  I didn't find anything stripped out. Reassembling went really good as well.  After typing that first sentence I went into my gun room and checked the pressure of my Avenger and it's right where I left it.  I have to say that removing the metal shard from the poppet face took care of the leak that I had. I've had it out twice since fixing and it looks very promising.

I believe that its a good idea to tear down any China built gun when you first get it because doing so will help with all the haphazard assembly flaws that are so common in most all China built guns, they don't care about quality evidently and they only thing they're concerned about it seems is selling selling and more selling. 

Personally I'm a glutton for punishment buying all these China guns that I do and actually the Avenger was the first one in a while that I didn't start out with a disassembly prior to shooting, if I bought another one I would.  It would really be cool if you could buy the returned guns for a hundred bucks like the ATI deal with Liberty's and Freedom's but doubtful that'll happen with the Air Venturi products.  That's only if they can't buy parts individually for them from China like they say they can . . . . time will tell and hopefully us little guys with be able to buy spare parts if we need them.

[Wayne52]

When I came back from the woods yesterday after getting a fox squirrel with my Sentry 705-9 there was a Fedex envelope waiting that contained a DonnyFL adapter I purchased that I'll be using on both my Liberty and Avenger.  I've tried it on both and all I can say is WOW!!!  I'll be in stealth mode with either gun when I'm in the woods now

[mrbulk]

Awesome, Wayne. Good to see that big custom Rocker work its magic.

[tracker1955]

Wayne, when you had the Avenger apart was the poppet and material the same as on our Liberty's, or was it different. I'm still considering one of these in 25cal in the future but waiting to see if people begin having poppet issues.

[Wayne52]

Tom it looked like the same material as what the Liberty's had on them.  I honestly think the .25 Avenger is quieter than the .22 Liberty with the LDC on it, probably because the LDC is bored out closer in size.  I can always try the one from my Prod on the Liberty, it's closer to .22 but won't work on the Avenger

[tracker1955]

Thanks Wayne, that's what I thought, I actually went back and watched Stevens tear down video again and he emphasized the same thing. My two Liberty poppets have lasted about a year each, will observe to see if the Avenger poppets begin to fail around that time also.

[Wayne52]

I'm looking forward to Stephen's next video about the stock he's making for his, his video's are always really good!

[AVS Stephen]

Hey Wayne, Just finished the stock yesterday. Here are some photos

[avator]

Nice.... how much weight did it add to the gun?

[AVS Stephen]

7lb 14oz Total

[Wayne52]

Wow !!! That stock turned out fantastic Stephen, heck that's not that heavy either in my opinion.  My favorite side is the side you have facing up on the scale, I really like how the grain of the wood is.