Benjamin Cayden Test-Puppy

[Hangtown-Shooter]

Thanks for the heads up Paul! Here is the link —->
https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2020/09/the-benjamin-cayden-part-1/

[Racerman111]

"Tanks" Paul!

Yer 'velcum'...   

[Hangtown-Shooter]

I currently have a Meprolight M21 reflex sight [ring & dot reticle version] mounted to it...

Post a pic of that setup when you get a chance, I’d be interested how tight of a group you could pull off with that type of sight @ 30 yards?!

Congratulations on your purchase, I’m really enjoying mine 😎

[Hoosier Daddy]

Thanks for the heads up Paul! Here is the link —->
https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2020/09/the-benjamin-cayden-part-1/

Got it!

[Racerman111]

I currently have a Meprolight M21 reflex sight [ring & dot reticle version] mounted to it...

Post a pic of that setup when you get a chance, I’d be interested how tight of a group you could pull off with that type of sight @ 30 yards?!

Congratulations on your purchase, I’m really enjoying mine 😎

Already have pictures ready to go whenever I can post them. Previously had the M21 mounted on a SIG 522, and if it is any indication, the group will be 'okay' but not great, don't expect a single hole. I do much better with scopes than open sights, red-dots/holographic/reflex sights I'm 'okayish' but definitely not as precise as with a scope...

[Racerman111]

Okay, I have some data points now that I received the DonnyFL Tanto (0.25" bore).

Using my ExTech 407730 SLM in A-weighted Fast mode with max hold and meter placed perpendicular to muzzle @ 3' and Cayden power adjuster set just higher than 1/2 way mark, I measured 80.8dB dry fired in my small living room. With the Tanto body unscrewed from the cone adapter (so just the cone adapter on the muzzle threads, I was reading right at 86dB dry fired. So about a 5 dB reduction it seems and it does lower the higher frequency tones more to soften it. Takes just enough edge off it, should be better outside though.

P.S. With the Tanto and power adjuster on max it's 81.5dB, and with power adjuster on minimum it's 74.5dB.

With Tanto fully removed, it's 86.5dB (max setting)/79.9dB(min setting).

[Hangtown-Shooter]

Thanks for the report, looking forward to the pics once you are able to share 👍🏻

[Hangtown-Shooter]

Sorry guys and gals, I’ve done a poor job of keeping this thread updated!

[Hoosier Daddy]

THAT is a thing of mechanical beauty!!!

[100acres]

I received my Benjamin Kratos yesterday.  I ordered the gun on Black Friday morning.  It took exactly 1 week to get here.  I have to say AOA did a fantastic job of packaging up the gun.  I went over the gun and it arrived in perfect condition.

I know these are Kral guns made to Crosman's specs.  I have 2 Krals one is in .22 cal. I thought for sure the mags would be interchangeable.  They look the same but the Kratos mags are not as thick darn... 

The only thing I would be a little critical of is that you have to take the barrel out of the receiver to remove the shroud.  Somebody correct me if I'm wrong on this.  I ended up using a mop with ballistol on it to clean the barrel.  I didn't feel like taking the barrel assembly off this time.  I'll shoot the gun and see what happens.  Hopefully i have a great shooter fingers are crossed.

[Wayne52]

I was out in the woods today with my Cayden, it was the first I've shot it in about a month I only shot it a few times but it was still dead on for accuracy.

[TroyHammer]

I received my Benjamin Kratos yesterday.  I ordered the gun on Black Friday morning.  It took exactly 1 week to get here.  I have to say AOA did a fantastic job of packaging up the gun.  I went over the gun and it arrived in perfect condition.

I know these are Kral guns made to Crosman's specs.  I have 2 Krals one is in .22 cal. I thought for sure the mags would be interchangeable.  They look the same but the Kratos mags are not as thick darn... 

The only thing I would be a little critical of is that you have to take the barrel out of the receiver to remove the shroud.  Somebody correct me if I'm wrong on this.  I ended up using a mop with ballistol on it to clean the barrel.  I didn't feel like taking the barrel assembly off this time.  I'll shoot the gun and see what happens.  Hopefully i have a great shooter fingers are crossed.

Shroud will unscrew and pull off without removing the barrel. The rear fitting is attached with a grub screw that fits in to a barrel detent

[Hangtown-Shooter]

If we are being honest, I have a confession to make also... 

[Hoosier Daddy]

OUTSTANDING DAVE!
Hope you like it as much as I like mine.
As an update of my own... my Kratos has been shooting consistently nice 50 yard groups with the FX 15.9g pellets at mid power since I changed to a Discovery VT-2 6-24X44 scope.
 Once spring gets here or maybe a fluke warm spell.. I will stretch her legs to 100+ but for the foreseeable near future she will be pulling 10M indoor match duty

[Hangtown-Shooter]

So far I am loving the Kratos!  I decided to stick with .22 cal so now between the two rifles I have 4 interchangeable magazines, and the stocks feel nearly identical as well so it’s almost difficult to tell them apart while shooting... until I get past that 4th mag and the Kratos is still wanting to play! 

[mrbulk]

If we are being honest, I have a confession to make also... 

*LIKE*

[100acres]

Troy thanks for the tip on shroud removal.

[Hangtown-Shooter]

If you are in need of additional spare magazines you will need to call Crosman directly as they are not yet listed on their website.
These should be the correct part #’s —->
CR-088-22 (.22 cal)
CR-088-25 (.25 cal)

[Hoosier Daddy]

THANK YOU!!!
It was posted earlier but my search efforts did not find it.

[Racerman111]

Well some delayed pictures, since believe can post them now...

Here's closeup of the Cayden with the Meprolight M21 reflex sight:



Haven't had much chance to shoot it outside, but did shoot it inside yesterday and this evening... was trying to put a Hawke Airmax 4-12x40 AMX on it but cheap rings I got are messed up and way out of alignment. Had originally bought medium Leupold PRW2 precision rings to use (my go to rings), but they are too short to clear the magazine... so back on went the Meprolight M21. Only have 28 feet from target to Tanto in a hallway (~33' door to wall) ... and using my audio rack on wheels as a bench:



Bandana used to dim down the reticle... a bit too bright otherwise. Here's kind of a view of the reticle... perspective and size is off compared to when actually looking through it...it's noticeably larger with a narrower FOV when actually looking through it at correct distance on comb.



After two magazines worth of JSB Jumbo Diabolo 15.89 pellets getting dialed in and feeling good, with pressure @ 2500psi I then shot this target (shot order was top left, top right, bottom left, bottom right, center):



Then tonight, just now, took it out and just did quick 5 shot group at a 1" circle outline shoot-n-see dot. Hardest part is centering the sight over the circle since reticle is fairly thick and covering it a bit (which is why dimming it with bandana helps...to make it more translucent). Pretty sure the only reason the group is as large as it is is because hard to get sight picture precisely lined up same every shot like you can with a scope:



Really do like it for close in even if it's not as precise as a scope... I have about 25 yards in my back yards that I'll eventually try it out at with the M21 sight before get good set of rings and mount the Hawke Airmax 4-12x40 AMX. Originally got it for a SIG 522 which mainly shot around 20-25 yards with. Would like to transfer the M21 sight to an air pistol... have one coming in the end of this week but no rails on it since it's an SSP target pistol. I am however, very interested in the Reximex RP, which does have rails...   Would want to get a cantilever adapter rail for it though since not sure there is enough slots to fit the M21 for both front and rear locking points, plus balance would be better with it moved more rearward just in front of magazine.