Benjamin Cayden Test-Puppy

[Nomadic Pirate]

I think Troy will quickly become our “Krosman” expert. 

While it would be great that crosman develop their own product, given one new pcp a year, it would have taken too long for features others already have.  Bottle guns, side lever, bull pup, etc.  Unlike many rebranders, I think the combo of great parts and repair support will bring value to them. 

Krosman,

I like that one, clever

How much are them guns anyway ?

[Rabbit\Squirrel Killer]

I think Troy will quickly become our “Krosman” expert. 

While it would be great that crosman develop their own product, given one new pcp a year, it would have taken too long for features others already have.  Bottle guns, side lever, bull pup, etc.  Unlike many rebranders, I think the combo of great parts and repair support will bring value to them.

Don't forget, Krosman is a Velocity-Outdoor company.

[TroyHammer]

I think Troy will quickly become our “Krosman” expert. 

While it would be great that crosman develop their own product, given one new pcp a year, it would have taken too long for features others already have.  Bottle guns, side lever, bull pup, etc.  Unlike many rebranders, I think the combo of great parts and repair support will bring value to them. 

Krosman,

I like that one, clever

How much are them guns anyway ?

Using the AGNATION coupon code on the crosman website they run $450-$550 depending on model.

[Nomadic Pirate]

I think Troy will quickly become our “Krosman” expert. 

While it would be great that crosman develop their own product, given one new pcp a year, it would have taken too long for features others already have.  Bottle guns, side lever, bull pup, etc.  Unlike many rebranders, I think the combo of great parts and repair support will bring value to them. 

Krosman,

I like that one, clever

How much are them guns anyway ?

Using the AGNATION coupon code on the crosman website they run $450-$550 depending on model.

WOW, that is real chap,...they gonna sell a lot for sure

[USAFANG6799]

WOW, that is real chap,...they gonna sell a lot for sure

I'm sure that's what Krosman/Velocity Outdoor is hoping for. There's a lot going for and against this joint business venture.
I'm unsure if it's the right company to pair with on the Crosman part. Cooperative support with all three partners will sure be paramount in this business venture.
 

[Hangtown-Shooter]

 According to the write up by HAM the Cayden is the only version without a barrel shroud but instead has a threaded barrel with removable muzzle brake.

[Gear_Junkie]

According to the write up by HAM the Cayden is the only version without a barrel shroud but instead has a threaded barrel with removable muzzle brake.

Good catch, thanks!

[Antwuan Maxx]

[TroyHammer]

My Akela was just delivered.  It's not at all a rebadged Kral. Maybe 2-3 parts are interchangeable. It's very nice. Solid smooth cocking.  The lever even has a bearing for the bolt pivot. Trigger is very nice. They did a great job working together on this.

[Nomadic Pirate]

Cool, so they aren't just a re-branded platform in different stocks.

[Bryan Heimann]

It might still be.  There are a few other Turkish airgun manufacturers that produce siDe lever PCP’s very similar to Kral and Hatsan.  I found them while I was googling for “Turkish Benjamin” after I saw this thread.

I still haven’t figured out which is what though.  I wouldn’t be surprised if they are importing a couple of different models from different manufacturers altogether?

I am hoping for good parts and support but I never received the standard parts and support with the Remington Express.  It took me awhile to hunt down a factory spring and piston seal for that one.  And back and forth with Crosman, and Remington until I found someone that was able to sell me the parts.

Which is unusual for Crosman.

But if they keep these contracts and continue to import these guns long term, I am sure the parts and support will come through.

[TroyHammer]

It might still be.  There are a few other Turkish airgun manufacturers that produce siDe lever PCP’s very similar to Kral and Hatsan.  I found them while I was googling for “Turkish Benjamin” after I saw this thread.

I still haven’t figured out which is what though.  I wouldn’t be surprised if they are importing a couple of different models from different manufacturers altogether?

I am hoping for good parts and support but I never received the standard parts and support with the Remington Express.  It took me awhile to hunt down a factory spring and piston seal for that one.  And back and forth with Crosman, and Remington until I found someone that was able to sell me the parts.

Which is unusual for Crosman.

But if they keep these contracts and continue to import these guns long term, I am sure the parts and support will come through.

It's 100% for sure made by Kral. It's not a rebrand. Kral made the gun to Benjamin/Crosman specs.

[Bryan Heimann]

Thanks Troy

[Wynn]

I might be cashing in some comp time, that bullpup looks awesome.

[Hangtown-Shooter]

 Well, the wait has come to an end and at first glance she’s a beauty!
The new Cayden showed up undamaged and holding 3K which is a good sign. The lever cycles smoothly, although this is my first lever gun so I have nothing to compare it to.
  I don’t have a scope yet, but I just had to run a couple pellets through it after running a few patches through the barrel  Pyramyd’s description rates this version at a 4 on their loudness scale (compared to a 2 for both shrouded versions) so I was a bit nervous it would be obnoxious, but I didn’t think it seemed all that loud to my ears honestly.
 I did confirm the barrel is threaded so I will be looking into moderator options soon, but for now it’s tolerable.
 The stock feels very nice to shoulder and balances nicely. Overall it seems very nice and so far I am pleased with my purchase. Looking forward to running a few different pellets once I get a scope mounted and see what kind of groups I can get!

[USAFANG6799]

Many thanks for sharing your pics and enthusiasm with all of us.
Looking forward to your continued feedback because it's on my radar.

[Ribbonstone]

Would have been my choice.   I like adding or removing an LDC at my whim and most of my uses for an airgun are well served by longer rifles.

[Racer1]

Perhaps I missed it,but are the threads 1/2-20 or something else?

[TroyHammer]

Perhaps I missed it,but are the threads 1/2-20 or something else?

˝-20 UNF

[Racer1]

Troy thanks for the response. Now it IS moving closer to the top of my list.