Stevewhen in the 1930's did they raise the barrel ?i have an early with the barrel down close to the tubeand taking a knurled knob off a later early gun the early knurled bolt will not fit, maybe there was knurled bolts later also ?
it did not take much fileing to get it to fitnow i need to find an early small knurled hammerprev owner had changed it to 2nd series along with the bolt
Stevewhen in the 1930's did they raise the barrel ?i have an early with the barrel down close to the tube
Quote from: strever on July 01, 2020, 03:03:39 PMStevewhen in the 1930's did they raise the barrel ?i have an early with the barrel down close to the tubestrever,If that is a "C" prefix on your rifle then it should have a short tapered ball, not a knurled bolt handle. That is if you are going back with original parts.Also, from my notes, the barrels weren't raised on the single shots till the "T" series came out in the mid 40's. Those were the receivers with the cast in pellet logos.The repeaters had a higher lift since their inception in 1929.Here is the difference between the knurled, short tapered ball and long tapered ball.Steven
Quote from: xcalibur on July 02, 2020, 12:15:38 PMQuote from: strever on July 01, 2020, 03:03:39 PMStevewhen in the 1930's did they raise the barrel ?i have an early with the barrel down close to the tubestrever,If that is a "C" prefix on your rifle then it should have a short tapered ball, not a knurled bolt handle. That is if you are going back with original parts.Also, from my notes, the barrels weren't raised on the single shots till the "T" series came out in the mid 40's. Those were the receivers with the cast in pellet logos.The repeaters had a higher lift since their inception in 1929.Here is the difference between the knurled, short tapered ball and long tapered ball.StevenGood point on the higher barrel I’ve only had 1949 101s and a 1930’s 102 so I was not versed on the change in the 101’s, was thinking about my 102, assumed they all changed? Not quite so tidy in the Crosman world knurled bolt handles were known in the C prefix, I have one. There is another on this log. Yes you can say it’s not original but mine sure looks that way? What constitutes a T Series? Never hear the term?
Quote from: 45flint on July 02, 2020, 03:05:22 PMQuote from: xcalibur on July 02, 2020, 12:15:38 PMQuote from: strever on July 01, 2020, 03:03:39 PMStevewhen in the 1930's did they raise the barrel ?i have an early with the barrel down close to the tubestrever,If that is a "C" prefix on your rifle then it should have a short tapered ball, not a knurled bolt handle. That is if you are going back with original parts.Also, from my notes, the barrels weren't raised on the single shots till the "T" series came out in the mid 40's. Those were the receivers with the cast in pellet logos.The repeaters had a higher lift since their inception in 1929.Here is the difference between the knurled, short tapered ball and long tapered ball.StevenGood point on the higher barrel I’ve only had 1949 101s and a 1930’s 102 so I was not versed on the change in the 101’s, was thinking about my 102, assumed they all changed? Not quite so tidy in the Crosman world knurled bolt handles were known in the C prefix, I have one. There is another on this log. Yes you can say it’s not original but mine sure looks that way? What constitutes a T Series? Never hear the term?That chart is older. The updated chart shows predominately more tapered balls than knurled bolt handles on the "C" series. There is only a minute chance the transition happened early on in the "C" series. Dicks rifle has the wrong hammer knob; plus, if i read it correctly, he mentions the bolt is from another rifle and does not fit. That is why he filed it. There are a couple knurls on the chart with higher numbers, one of which is yours. The other rifle(C8344) with knurled knob looks to be a homemade job. I chart what I see and anything that doesn't fit gets a question mark. That rifle also has a homemade peep sight on it. So it most likely was born with a short tapered ball handle.C4799 with knurl bolt is from a description with no photo, which I now question as an original part. That pretty much leaves your C8569 rifle with a knurled bolt. Kind of an orphan among tapered bolts.The "T" prefix rifles appear to be the first production run of the Early Pellet Logo rifles. As always this info is subject to change.
It would be good to keep in mind that Myron Kasock [Steve noted this Fletcher 101 came from the 2003 RIA auction] was known to frequently make one good airgun from multiple parts-guns. He also was not reluctant to refinish stuff. Back 20 or 30 years ago, originality wasn't as highly revered as today.Don R.
That chart is older. The updated chart shows predominately more tapered balls than knurled bolt handles on the "C" series. There is only a minute chance the transition happened early on in the "C" series. Dicks rifle has the wrong hammer knob; plus, if i read it correctly, he mentions the bolt is from another rifle and does not fit. That is why he filed it. There are a couple knurls on the chart with higher numbers, one of which is yours. The other rifle(C8344) with knurled knob looks to be a homemade job. I chart what I see and anything that doesn't fit gets a question mark. That rifle also has a homemade peep sight on it. So it most likely was born with a short tapered ball handle.C4799 with knurl bolt is from a description with no photo, which I now question as an original part. That pretty much leaves your C8569 rifle with a knurled bolt. Kind of an orphan among tapered bolts.The "T" prefix rifles appear to be the first production run of the Early Pellet Logo rifles. As always this info is subject to change.
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