Lets try this again... Dispatch gun

[YEMX]

So the "dispatch gun" idea I had before didn't exactly pan out the way I wanted.  I just ended up w/another AF gun 

Super simple...

Prod length disco tube
Prod trigger
Prod gauge block
Power adjuster
LDC adapter
.22 Caliber

I'm going this route because I have all the parts (some I've only JUST found today), and a few of you mentioned that a dispatch gun would be perfectly effective as a .22 and around 14+ fpe at point blank range.  So here we are.  A short Disco.  I can also use the LDC I had made for the EscapeSS (the first "dispatch gun"), and it should be really effective for a under 20 fpe .22... 

[mackeral5]

 My current dispatch gun....  It's light, fairly compact, right at 32" IIRC.  45-50 shots of 45fpe, slight overkill for the HOSPS that built nests in my truck grill, lol....Of all of my airguns this one has proven to be the most practical for "around the house" duties. 





Your threads on this topic have had me intrigued the entire time.  I have an old B&A "Thirty-Plus" breech and matching Gen 1 Mrod tube.....  what about cutting down the Mrod tube, rethreading it, and making a Gen 1 Mrod based pistol using a prod trigger  I doubt I'll ever go through with it, but the makings of a cool dispatch pistol are there.   Breech is dovetailed so easy to add an optic, or not.   If you were interested I'm sure we could come up with some parts to swap around. 

[YEMX]

That sure is a sweet bullpup!!  The EscapeSS  Ended up being 30" OAL w/o the LDC, 39" with.  W/o the stock/arm brace attached, it's 28" OAL...  and it's not low powered!     I do still want a bullpup!  Curse me for not double checking addresses!!   

I was thinking the same w/a Mrod, as I have a short Mrod tube (for a bottle conversion) that's not going to get used...  But the Prod trigger would require more work than I'd want to do- it's either sand down the frame to match the radius of the Mrod tube, or make a new sear.  Thank you for the offer though!  But the Mrod path is more work than I want to do currently...

Speaking of .25's, my Gen2 Mrod "Fat and Slow" low powered .25 project is nearly complete!!  So I'll have that to use for pest control    When I say dispatch, I really mean "dispatch", as in a sick, or wounded animal that needs to be dealt with quickly, quietly, and humanely.  Everything else, I consider pesting.  It may just be semantics- no biggie...

I would still like to do this build someday:

Prod length Disco tube
Cothran powerhouse valve
22xx trigger
Prod gauge block
.357 barrel that is both the breech and barrel in one piece, like the Crosman 1400

Some other little goodies and an LDC adapter that would have to be heated to install on the barrel for a "permanent" fit.  I'll build this after ALL my other projects, since my lathe will absolutely be up and running by then.

[mackeral5]

I didn't realize all of the work required to put the prod trigger on the Mrod tube, thanks for sharing that bit of info.  I think  I still have a spare WAR valve and mds hammers.  All i am missing is the prod trigger and Gen 1 rear end cap.....some day I may get to work on it..

[YEMX]

Yessir- There was someone making the conversion sears- but I can't remember who that was, and I'm pretty sure they're not making those sears anymore. 

Speaking of trigger set ups- I'm going back and forth on whether or not to start designing a M700 trigger block and sear (basically a Flex trigger) for a future Mrod based project...  I really like the idea of using a M700 trigger with an Mrod.  I don't know why I'm so enamored with it.  Combine the M700 trigger set up w/a custom stock?  Yes please!

[larspawn]

I’d go simple and use a PP700/750 in .22.  Crank it up and use a heavy wadcutter.  Get a Colt 45 holster and you’ve got the perfect coup de grace gun.

[mackeral5]

Yessir- There was someone making the conversion sears- but I can't remember who that was, and I'm pretty sure they're not making those sears anymore. 

Speaking of trigger set ups- I'm going back and forth on whether or not to start designing a M700 trigger block and sear (basically a Flex trigger) for a future Mrod based project...  I really like the idea of using a M700 trigger with an Mrod.  I don't know why I'm so enamored with it.  Combine the M700 trigger set up w/a custom stock?  Yes please!

Another center fire bolt action trigger I've seen used is a modified Mauser trigger from Timney,  that is what is on my Extreme.  It does a good job of keeping the trigger closer to the tube vs. the setup use on the Flex...

[YEMX]

I’d go simple and use a PP700/750 in .22.  Crank it up and use a heavy wadcutter.  Get a Colt 45 holster and you’ve got the perfect coup de grace gun.

My PP700 is already slated for a re-build into a carbine (was going to be a bottle gun- still might be), with a conversion to .20 caliber...  I don't feel like buying another gun    95% of the parts for this updated dispatch gun build I already have on hand from old projects that never went anywhere...  I have A LOT of those!   

[YEMX]

This is probably a silly question...  I want to use the Prod gauge block in my Disco tube.  I see in the parts diagram that there's a spacer between the front of the valve and the gauge block in the Prod...  Do I need this spacer?  I don't remember reading whether I do or not.  I don't think I need it, but I want to be sure before ordering any parts...  Also- Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't normal gauges just thread directly into a Prod gauge block?  I have a few gauges and would like to use them if possible.

[mackeral5]

Prod gauge block is threaded 1/8 npt.  No need for a spacer unless you are running a regulator. 

[FuzzyGrub]

The spacer in the Prod is because the gauge is further away from the valve.  On Disco, gauge block butts up against the valve. 

Citrus Airguns (long gone) was the 1st I know of to offer the sear.  In a different thread, someone mentioned Lloyd Sykes use to make them.  Might be worth the cost of a IM to see if he has any lying around. 

[YEMX]

Prod gauge block is threaded 1/8 npt.  No need for a spacer unless you are running a regulator.

The spacer in the Prod is because the gauge is further away from the valve.  On Disco, gauge block butts up against the valve.   

SWEET, that's what I thought- I just wanted to be sure!  Most excellent gentlemen, I thank you!

[YEMX]

That Mauser trigger mod is sweet- but there's no M700 safety lever- which is part of the reason why I like the mod...  I have both types of triggers, so perhaps I'll experiment!  I think a 1903A3 trigger is close enough to a Mauser's 

[mackeral5]

That Mauser trigger mod is sweet- but there's no M700 safety lever- which is part of the reason why I like the mod...  I have both types of triggers, so perhaps I'll experiment!  I think a 1903A3 trigger is close enough to a Mauser's 

I always enjoy seeing how others adapt/repurpose items.  I would have never had the vision to use the Timney Mauser trigger in the manner that Brent did with the Extreme. 

Note the difference in sear when comparing Timney Mauser vs Timney 700.  If I were buying these triggers and adapting to an airgun I would likely go with the Mauser style....  Timney makes a version with 700 style safety, too...

[YEMX]

...Timney makes a [Mauser] version with 700 style safety, too...

Well NOW we're cookin' w/fire!!  I'll definitely check that out- a low profile trigger unit w/a M700 style safety sounds to be just the ticket!

[YEMX]

Found it!  Timney Mauser Featherweight Deluxe!  I may have to get one and start doing some fitment...  This would make a pretty cool addition to either one of my bottle guns, or my .172 build!!  Or perhaps all 3, if I can do a good enough job adapting it to the Mrod!!

[Acapulco]

lookin for a lil get-r -done gun...well that's easy.

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[YEMX]

lookin for a lil get-r -done gun...well that's easy.

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One of these days, I'm going to pick one of those up- I LOVE those BSA's with the MMC set up!  But that's still too big for what I want    It's bigger than a Prod-length (actually a touch shorter w/o LDC) pistol.  But thank you for the picture!!  I always love seeing those old BSA's!

[Pelletjunkie]

Just use the PP700. It’s perfect. You can see my shortened PP700 laying by the dead bandit. I never investigate a downed critter without it. Cheaper than wasting another slug.

[Back_Roads]

 I see the Op's point, have parts enough to make a few guns and then some, want to keep cost down and recycle the assortment of parts on hand ... never ending story