rws34 .22 or beeman r9?

[Jringe1109]

what justifies the added 230$ for the beeman other than no plastic? the t06 trigger is almost as good as the Rekord... just wanted some insight. are there any power differences between the two, accuracy differences?
thanx
jermey

[gby2k6]

Let me start off first by mentioning that my RWS 34 is a Panther, and has a RWS muzzle brake on it.  My R9s are the ones with the brakes because I don't like shooting open sights from my air rifles.

I'm not going to cover everything, but just some of the ones that matter to me when comparing the two.

Visuals:
This is subjective, but I have to say that the Beeman R9 wins hands down.  

The R9 stock, bluing, and brake just looks very sexy.  The barrel length of the R9 compliment the R9 stock perfectly.  The checkering on they stock and if you get lucky, you can get a stock with some really nice grains.

My 34 stock feels kind of cheap.  Granted, it's plastic, but even plastic doesn't have to feel cheap.  Take my Beeman P3 for example, high quality plastic.

Balance:
The R9 is balanced very well.  It is so sweet to shoulder and feels made special just for me.  Because of this, the R9 can be shot very easily off hand.

The 34, on the other hand, with an extra 3 inches on the barrel compared to the R9, feels very front/nose heavy.

Quality:
When you pick up the Beeman, immediately, it screams QUALITY!  The R9 feels like the expensive airgun that is.  You can tell and feel that it commands the recognition when you pick it up.

The 34, well, to me, feels just like any other airgun.  It's definitely better than a Gamo, but no where close a Beeman R9.

Accuracy:
Both my R9 and 34 shoot accurately.  They're both tuned by John in PA with Vortek kits, out of the box, I would still say that the R9 wins, but that's just me "saying".  But comparing both of mine, they're both very accurate.  The R9 wins by a slight margin because I can shoot it better.  Of course, they're both more accurate than I am.

Value:
The Beeman R9 will definitely hold its value better, meaning you won't loose too much money if you ever decide to sell it.  I can tell you right now though, I would sell my 34 in a heart beat when compared to my R9.  My R9s, I plan to keep them all.  Actually, I plan to add the other calibers of the R11s.


Conclusion:
The Beeman R9, in my opinion, is worth the extra $230.  When you get one, you'll see why.  And every day, I ask myself, why didn't I start out with a R9 first?  If I would have done that, I wouldn't have collected so many Gamos.  I shoot my R9 much more than my 34.  Every time I do my part, when I stack the pellets, all I could so is smile.  The R9, in my book, is a must have springer.  

Hope this helps.

-GB

[Tpatner412]

Okay where to start.  The R9 is much more visually stunning rifle IMO.  The 34 stock is thin and doesnt shoulder nearly as well.  The metal work on the R9 is much better, the fit and finish as well as the bluing.  The Rekord trigger is bettered only by the match triggers found on PCP rifles and depending on what you like in a trigger the difference between those can be negligible.  In terms of accuracy the R9 wins by leaps and bounds, not because it is simply more accurate but because it takes less effort to shoot as accurately again IMO.  RWS makes a fine rifle but Beeman makes them even finer.  In terms of power, it is possible that they both shoot right around the same FPS.  My .177 shoots in the high 800's with 8.4 grain JSB.  Its not the most powerful gun but it is the most accurate and in the end that is what counts.  The money difference is very well justified and until you hold an R9 in your hands you will not understand why, but when you finally do it will all make sense.

Good luck

[Mark 611]

I agree with both of you and what you've said! I don't have any of my Diana's left I've sold them all off I just don't care for them, my HW's and Beeman's and AA and Webley's have taken over in my springer group, once the quality of these gun's have been felt and used and appreciated it's really hard to shoot gun's of lesser quality, JMHO

[Rico14]

I agree with the previous posters, the R9 is head and shoulders above

[Jringe1109]

did anyone take a look at the r9 on pyramyd air that they have pictured? the one without a scope? the wood grain is gorgeous. is that the norm or do they usually look more like a standard rws beech stock? if thats the norm i'm going to order one.
thankyou

[Rico14]

did anyone take a look at the r9 on pyramyd air that they have pictured? the one without a scope? the wood grain is gorgeous. is that the norm or do they usually look more like a standard rws beech stock? if thats the norm i'm going to order one.
thankyou

I have two R9's. Both of the stocks look like the one in the Pyramyd ad

[Mark 611]

The doubble gold series Beeman Rifles have very nice looking wood on them!

[RedFeather]

It all depends on what you want it for and how much money you have to spend.  You can buy a Ford or a Lincoln.  They will both get you to work, etc.  I noticed that no one with a 34 (or the guts to admit to owning one) chimed in here.  I actually like my T05, plain stocked 34 and I do own "better" guns.  Sometimes it's all a matter of tastes.

And, sorry, but I only found one R series gun "visually stunning" and that was an early R-1 that had a true XXX grade walnut stock, perhaps one of Dr. Beeman's special orders.  To me, beech is, well, beech.

[Ddgrego]

hi all.i have 2 beemans and 1 34.for the most part the beemans do look and feel better on mine but my 34 will out thump them both.it shoots very hard and accurate to the 35-50 yard mark.Yes the Beemans are a shorter barrel and the longer 34 IMO on my gun just reaches out just a bit farther for accuracy.Could discuss this all day as i like em both.looks verses functionality.my 34 has many rounds through it so its broken in very well and trigger is where it needs to be.Still breaking in one of the Beemans so a bit stiff yet but it ll come around.Hard to say which is better but both companies make excellent guns IMO

[gby2k6]

It all depends on what you want it for and how much money you have to spend.  You can buy a Ford or a Lincoln.  They will both get you to work, etc.  I noticed that no one with a 34 (or the guts to admit to owning one) chimed in here.  I actually like my T05, plain stocked 34 and I do own "better" guns.  Sometimes it's all a matter of tastes.

And, sorry, but I only found one R series gun "visually stunning" and that was an early R-1 that had a true XXX grade walnut stock, perhaps one of Dr. Beeman's special orders.  To me, beech is, well, beech.

I have one, as mentioned in my post above and I will gladly say that I do like it, as it shoots well and accurately to boot.  It would be hard for me to let my 34 go.  As far as preference, I just prefer my R9 for the reasons stated.   Now if the R9 were dressed in Walnut, I would imagine the price would go up as well, but I'm sure the option would be welcome.  I'm fine with the beech, as my R9s are not safe queens.  I buy 'em so I shoot 'em.

-GB

[Clark]

We've discussed it before but I'd agree Redfeather: beech is beech.  Everyone knows this except most airgunners!

I decided long ago I didn't want to go through life buying things based on how they felt or looked.  Functionality is key.  Compare the R9 and 34 at the range and tell me if there is a clear winner.  I really doubt anyone can shoot much better than either gun can.  If there is a difference is it worth $200?  For me the 34 is the obvious choice.

Clark

[Jringe1109]

thanks all, i already have a 34. i want the r9 just to add to my collection and beech wood grain varies GREATLY. i would think beeman for the extra dough would cough up a nicely grained stock thats maybe say.... hand picked and the lower quality stock wood gets sent over to maybe RWS lol. i shoot all of my guns none of them get more than a few days rest. no safe queens here just want a high quality springer that i can pass on to my son when hes old enough, something above ordinary (like my rws34, which i love).
-jeremy

[goodland]

I think the R9 is an excellent choice
It has the Rekord trigger which is top notch out of the box
I can't get my head around how purdy she is only if she is accurate.
Would make a good field target rifle.
Let us know what happens

[SAADE]

What everybody here said about Weihrauch quality and lack of plastic! I will never sell my HW97K and have sold lot's of Gamos and other "stuff" including returning a dssapointing RWS 34 Pro Compact.

Also, and this may not last forever, there is actually a Mr. Weihrauch and he even replies to emails. There is no "Mr Umarex or Mr RWS". A small but important difference among the brands. As an example, here is a quote from an email repsonse from several years ago from Herr Weihrauch, where I had asked him about the $$ difference between his product and the other German guns. (in part) "Mr. Brian, thank you for the good words about your HW97 Karbine, we are very proud of the work we do on that gun and so many others. As to your inquiry about our pricing in the U.S., I can say that some shipping and exchange rate costs influence the price, certainly. But, I can also say that our factory spends many hours in perfecting the metal work, browning (or blueing) barrel and stock making that we still control to this day. Likewise, our time-tested Rekord triggers are likely the world's best production trigger. Our competitors have tended to outsource stock making completely and also opted for a multi-fit plastic parts list such as triggers and sights that we just cannot embrace. I am sure you appreciate the weight, the finish and the mechanical quality of our guns as much as we do. We thank you for you support and hope you will continue to purchase Weihrauch products in the future."

Kinda sums it up eh, and I don't think RWS/Diana guns are priced that much better consdering the plastic parts and middle-of-the-road finishing of metal and stock work.

Consider this...how many forum posts do you see/read that are titled "Help! Need to Replace my Rekord Trigger!" My guess is, none.

[gene_sc]

I have owned several RWS 34's. With that said they can be a bucket of imperfections or great quality. The consistency for quality control is no where near HW made air guns. I own just one RWS 34 and it is a peach of a gun, but it took several of them to find the right one for me. I bought one R-9GF and one R-11 along with one HW.97.. They were perfect out of the box. Just added a little of my own touch to them.

So what I am saying is I did not have to buy several of the later models to find one I felt was #1.

If you find or have a good shooting RWS 34 hold on to it. Quality is not getting any better.

And one last point to be made is that for sure the Beeman guns made by HW and HW air guns do and will hold there resale value over most RWS models.

Just my two cents...