JSAR Rator issues any help would be great.

[oldpro]

JSAR is a contributing sponsor of this forum. I would try to reach them through the resources here. Post in the dealer's gate or whatever. I would think that our sponsors would want to show dedication to our members. Just as we have a responsibility as to who gets access to our members. This relationship should be a two way street.

+1 vendors gate is good option and there’s a thread there already

[chwillbill68]

JSAR is a contributing sponsor of this forum. I would try to reach them through the resources here. Post in the dealer's gate or whatever. I would think that our sponsors would want to show dedication to our members. Just as we have a responsibility as to who gets access to our members. This relationship should be a two way street.

Ok sounds good, that’s one way I didn’t think of reaching out.

[chwillbill68]

Bill, you have some incredible PCP’s in your Avatar. If you are unable to get it up and shooting soon, I’d do as Travis and the other Bill recommenced and send it in for repair. I just got mine back for a retrofitted adjustable regulator as mine came with the non adjustable regulator, they will take care of you! You do have some other fine shooting machines to keep you occupied for the time being 🤓.

Very true,  I want to do more shooting with the Evol, but the trigger is very heavy and there is not any information out there on it either. Might have to just tear into it also and see what happens.

[KnifeMaker]

Sorry I'm late., late. my computer died last night. I found the issue. The o ring in the balance chamber was tattered. I put a new o ring in but it did it again GRRRRR!!!!


Knife

[chwillbill68]

Sorry I'm late., late. my computer died last night. I found the issue. The o ring in the balance chamber was tattered. I put a new o ring in but it did it again GRRRRR!!!!


Knife

I am pretty sure that’s my issue. The o ring and seat will not stay together which is letting the plastic seat wobble or move and the poppet can’t seal tight enough.

[RDB]

Sorry I'm late., late. my computer died last night. I found the issue. The o ring in the balance chamber was tattered. I put a new o ring in but it did it again GRRRRR!!!!


Knife

I am pretty sure that’s my issue. The o ring and seat will not stay together which is letting the plastic seat wobble or move and the poppet can’t seal tight enough.

Heck, I thought Knifes computer blew an oring!

Seriously though, let the guys at jsar get her running top notch for you. They may see something that your missing and catch a future problem.

[ranchibi]

Sorry I'm late., late. my computer died last night. I found the issue. The o ring in the balance chamber was tattered. I put a new o ring in but it did it again GRRRRR!!!!


Knife

I am pretty sure that’s my issue. The o ring and seat will not stay together which is letting the plastic seat wobble or move and the poppet can’t seal tight enough.

Heck, I thought Knifes computer blew an oring!

Seriously though, let the guys at jsar get her running top notch for you. They may see something that your missing and catch a future problem.

+1 👍

[T3PRanch]

Knife has the new computerized valve! 

[chwillbill68]

Sorry I'm late., late. my computer died last night. I found the issue. The o ring in the balance chamber was tattered. I put a new o ring in but it did it again GRRRRR!!!!


Knife

Knife do you know what size that o-ring is under the seat. Think I may order it and some ones very close from orings and more.

Thanks Bill C!

[KnifeMaker]

I'm afraid I Don't. I turned one down from one slightly too large in dia. last night made of poly. Too sick to try it today. GRRRR!!!


On Wife's computer right now. It quit last night as well. Double Grrrrrrr!!!

[chwillbill68]

I'm afraid I Don't. I turned one down from one slightly too large in dia. last night made of poly. Too sick to try it today. GRRRR!!!


On Wife's computer right now. It quit last night as well. Double Grrrrrrr!!!

Hope you feel better soon!

[KnifeMaker]

Thanks!


Knife

[cootertwo]

Knife, you don't think you have "IT" do ya I hope not. Get to feelin better soon.

[Luis Leon]

Knife, you don't think you have "IT" do ya I hope not. Get to feelin better soon.

Cooter, bite your tongue... feel better Knife.

[rsterne]

What is the chance of a leak between the plastic seat and the valve body?.... Is it just sitting in place on the O-ring, or pressed in?.... If HPA can get behind the O-ring it may be popping loose?.... Just a thought....

Bob

[PeterL]

Sorry I'm late., late. my computer died last night. I found the issue. The o ring in the balance chamber was tattered. I put a new o ring in but it did it again GRRRRR!!!!


Knife

Although not a raptor, mine for my Marauder(SS2 Valve) did the exact same thing. I changed out the internals and it worked briefly and then same thing started happening again. Now it’s just an expensive paper weight sitting around. I know the disappointment feeling far too well.

Peter

[triggertreat]

Sorry I'm late., late. my computer died last night. I found the issue. The o ring in the balance chamber was tattered. I put a new o ring in but it did it again GRRRRR!!!!


Knife

Although not a raptor, mine for my Marauder(SS2 Valve) did the exact same thing. I changed out the internals and it worked briefly and then same thing started happening again. Now it’s just an expensive paper weight sitting around. I know the disappointment feeling far too well.

Peter

I'm dealing with the same issue with an SS2.  I'm not convinced it's the poppet to seat connection.  I have polished the poppet, and the seat looks very clean and smooth.  Next I'll see if I can pull the seat and look around for something else.

[PeterL]

Sorry I'm late., late. my computer died last night. I found the issue. The o ring in the balance chamber was tattered. I put a new o ring in but it did it again GRRRRR!!!!


Knife

Although not a raptor, mine for my Marauder(SS2 Valve) did the exact same thing. I changed out the internals and it worked briefly and then same thing started happening again. Now it’s just an expensive paper weight sitting around. I know the disappointment feeling far too well.

Peter

I'm dealing with the same issue with an SS2.  I'm not convinced it's the poppet to seat connection.  I have polished the poppet, and the seat looks very clean and smooth.  Next I'll see if I can pull the seat and look around for something else.

I’m of the same belief Keith. I’ve spent so many hrs and spent slugs on this valve, it just boils my blood to even think about it. Let’s just say, lesson learned.

Peter

[chwillbill68]

What is the chance of a leak between the plastic seat and the valve body?.... Is it just sitting in place on the O-ring, or pressed in?.... If HPA can get behind the O-ring it may be popping loose?.... Just a thought....

Bob

   I believe that it is to be a somewhat tight fit.  Meaning the oring stays on the plastic seat then they both sit tight together and flat in the valve.  But I can't push the two together down into the valve with out the oring popping off.  I have tried to push the seat into place down in the valve and I just can't seem to get them to do it.  So the plastic seat does wobble around a bit, which like you say is probably where the air is getting past.

   I have tomorrow off and plan to take it back apart and get a measurement on that oring and then try to find it and ones close but above and below in size to order and try them until I can get them to stay together down in  there. But I may have already messed up the seat, since I did a little sanding to the lip where the oring goes trying to make it smaller so they would stay together.

   Jacob said he would send me those parts, so I am just going to mess with what I have until they come to try and get it working.

   I have learned a lot about this gun while doing all this.  It is a very easy gun to work on so far.

[oldpro]

The oring goes in first then the seat simply sets on top of it with bevel down, The pressure when added to the cyclindetr pushes the seat down and seals up the valve its a floating seat and works quite well. Almost 95% of all leaks happen between the poppet and seat. Because there is 60% less clamping force small variations can cause leaks. Almost all the leaks Ive seen have come from debris from filling or corrosion from poor water separation.