The wonderful "China pump"

[Dan H]

I've always wanted to get a chinese pump and automate it

that might be the next thing to market ...a machine that pumps the hand pump  , maybe 2 at the same time , heck it might be cheaper in the long run than the other cheap cheesy china compressors  that are throw away units , all you would have to do is replace the 40-50 buck hand pump's ,or re o ring rebuild , I wonder how many hours 1 of these pumps could go at a slow rate of speed to reduce heat/wear

[Nomadic Pirate]

Dam. well, now I feel like a butt for getting the hill. Still May grab one the china pumps as a backup.

You should keep the HILL as a back up and the Wonderful China pump as the main work horse, the HILL will develop pittings and need a re-build way before Wander China,.....and as I mentioned a HILL re-build kit cost just about as much as a Chinese pump.

Even better sell the HILL and use the money to get 4-5 China pumps

[Wayne52]

I've bought 3 hand pumps, the first one (Benjamin) died in about 6 months, second one a TAOUSA still working good and a third Chinese backup, still waiting for use if needed.

[Nomadic Pirate]

One trick I used to do when I was shooting a lot and had a bunch of pumps ( 8 at one time )

I used to only pump 25 strokes then change pump and keep rotating, that way they never got hot.

That way you can fill a lot of guns with no worries nor downtime to let the pump cool down.

[markjs]

Speaking of "China pumps", I just watched a Youtuber named Afro Sniper X, say that the Hatsan 3 stage pump is much easier to pump than a Chinese.  Any truth to that?  I'd send more for an easier to work pump if so....

[mikeyb]

Got my $42 China pump almost exactly 2 years ago. Been using it a couple times a week filling 180/230/255 cc rifles. Mostly 50-60 pumps per set then a brief rest to cool. Went to pump up my AT44-short last night and the pump finally misbehaved.

Never had it apart before so I was a little intimidated at first. Not difficult at all. After tearing down and repairing a couple of those no warranty Freedom pumper rifles, this stand alone pump was EASY!

The o-rings were still in good shape so all it really needed was a good cleaning. Wiped off lots of old gunky oil and a few drops of water, lubed everything with some silicone oil, then put it all back together. Works like new.

IMO that's the best $42 I've spent on this airgun addiction hobby !

[Nomadic Pirate]

Got my $42 China pump almost exactly 2 years ago. Been using it a couple times a week filling 180/230/255 cc rifles. Mostly 50-60 pumps per set then a brief rest to cool. Went to pump up my AT44-short last night and the pump finally misbehaved.

Never had it apart before so I was a little intimidated at first. Not difficult at all. After tearing down and repairing a couple of those no warranty Freedom pumper rifles, this stand alone pump was EASY!

The o-rings were still in good shape so all it really needed was a good cleaning. Wiped off lots of old gunky oil and a few drops of water, lubed everything with some silicone oil, then put it all back together. Works like new.

IMO that's the best $42 I've spent on this airgun addiction hobby !

Correct my friend, best investment you can make PCP related and super easy to work on.

if you just open the pump every 6 months or so and clean and re-lube those China wonders go a long way

[Nomadic Pirate]

Speaking of "China pumps", I just watched a Youtuber named Afro Sniper X, say that the Hatsan 3 stage pump is much easier to pump than a Chinese.  Any truth to that?  I'd send more for an easier to work pump if so....

How much easier is easier ?.......Easier is not necessary always better.

[triggerfest]

I have a tank for my PCP's...

But considering to buy a China pump as well. I am planning to charge my PCP's the first shooting session from my tank and then when my POI starts to drop, recharge from there. It will save me some pumping up to the first unusable pressure limits.

[Nomadic Pirate]

I have a tank for my PCP's...

But considering to buy a China pump as well. I am planning to charge my PCP's the first shooting session from my tank and then when my POI starts to drop, recharge from there. It will save me some pumping up to the first unusable pressure limits.

Also you can stretch your tank, when it goes under full pressure you can still use it a bunch of times and just top of with the pump.

Bet you you can stretch you tank many, many fill like that.

[HunterWhite]

Is this the favorite?
I don't see any $40, most are $100 or more.



Hunter

[Balu]

Is this the favorite?
I don't see any $40, most are $100 or more.



Hunter

I was tempted on that one last night. Big downer is the delivery date June 1-22.

[HunterWhite]

Aww shucks man, that gives it time for the carona virus to die.

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I just couldn't find the $40 pump that I keep hearing about.

[mikeyb]

They were common on Amazon and Ebay for $40-$50 BEFORE the pandemic. Selection has dropped and prices have spiked since the beginning of this year.

AFAIK they are all have similar (not identical) construction and function. There are differences between various models with the specific connections and accessories (filters or not).

Mine was from a China seller with US warehouse stock. Received it 04/2018 less than a week after ordering. I still see some on Ebay for that lower price, but they are all from a China warehouse with uncertain (read LONG) delivery times.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/400bar-40mpa-Hand-Operated-Inflator-Pump-Mini-High-Pressure-Compressor-with-V6Y8/293514671168

[Balu]

Aww shucks man, that gives it time for the carona virus to die.

🤒

I just couldn't find the $40 pump that I keep hearing about.

Wally World had this one:

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Fugacal-High-Pressure-4500psi-Tungsten-Steel-3-Stage-Hand-Pump-for-PCP-Air-Gun-Boat-Tire-Ball-3-Stage-Hand-Pump-Tungsten-Steel-Hand-Pump/776702514

(Well, it was in stock three days ago......sorry)

[triggerfest]

I have a tank for my PCP's...

But considering to buy a China pump as well. I am planning to charge my PCP's the first shooting session from my tank and then when my POI starts to drop, recharge from there. It will save me some pumping up to the first unusable pressure limits.

Also you can stretch your tank, when it goes under full pressure you can still use it a bunch of times and just top of with the pump.

Bet you you can stretch you tank many, many fill like that.

Good catch, yes that is an interesting thought - might be even better, have not thought about that one yet 

[Balu]

Aww shucks man, that gives it time for the carona virus to die.

🤒

I just couldn't find the $40 pump that I keep hearing about.

You might try HPA hand pumps at fleabay. There are some cheaper options that may/may not work. Those are listed in for SCUBA and snorkling. Some (like the Australians) won't ship to North America. Those guys down under are smart. Hand pumps could be the answer to the ventilator crisis? Who knows? Some will lure you in with a $36 price and when you make your selection it jumps to $89!

I bought a DIDEEP Scuba Diving Oxygen Air Tank Reserve Hand Pump Mini Operated Inflator US out of Altadena, CA last night at $49, currently they list at $53. (7 Available).....

Since I'm new to PCP, can't lie. I don't know 100% they will work until everything arrives. Had I known pumps were going to be at a premium, yeah I would have bought as many cheapos as possible and then opened my own store! 

 

[Nomadic Pirate]

I have 3 still brand new in boxes

[Balu]

I have 3 still brand new in boxes

You're all set to make this Homemade PCP pump compressor.....

[froggy2x4]

I have 3 still brand new in boxes

You're all set to make this Homemade PCP pump compressor.....

honestly after looking up the motor used.. this is fairly easy to make at about 70-80 bucks give or take.. i'm now looking into making a stand lol