Author Topic: Zbroia Sapsan (Read 5794 times))

Nomadic Pirate · « **Reply #20 on:** December 23, 2019, 08:06:07 PM »

I really like the overall lines, but I think a shroud would have completed it much better

jarmstrong · « **Reply #21 on:** December 23, 2019, 08:25:34 PM »

Well, it would not be hard to fab one up, and I would make it a little long and use the moderator to push on the shroud and pull on the barrel for a little tension

ranchibi · « **Reply #22 on:** December 23, 2019, 09:32:38 PM »

Quote from: jarmstrong on December 23, 2019, 08:25:34 PM

Well, it would not be hard to fab one up, and I would make it a little long and use the moderator to push on the shroud and pull on the barrel for a little tension

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skorec · « **Reply #23 on:** December 25, 2019, 04:29:58 AM »

Quote from: Nomadic Pirate on December 23, 2019, 08:06:07 PM

I really like the overall lines, but I think a shroud would have completed it much better

Yes but scope rail assembly have to be fixed directly to the barrel as strong as possible.
Therefore only front part of barrel can be shrouded

Nomadic Pirate · « **Reply #24 on:** December 25, 2019, 11:05:16 AM »

Quote from: jarmstrong on December 23, 2019, 08:25:34 PM

Well, it would not be hard to fab one up, and I would make it a little long and use the moderator to push on the shroud and pull on the barrel for a little tension

Sure, but doesn't all that beat the argument "to keep the gun cheaper" ?.....when even before you buy it you already know you'll be spending more money for a decent LDC or a shroud ?

anti-squirrel · « **Reply #25 on:** December 25, 2019, 11:29:42 AM »

My guess is- knowing what I do about Ukrainians (having married a gal with Ukrainian roots)- Aesthetics are less important than performance. If the performance is in line with other Zbroia, should be a good shooter. For folks who don't worry about noise (hunters and those with rural property) not an issue. For those dealing with pesting (such as me), I don't mind swapping an LDC from another gun as needed.

Plus Ukrainian! A few threads back, I distinctly recall praise for airguns from eastern Europe

Nomadic Pirate · « **Reply #26 on:** December 25, 2019, 11:58:01 AM »

Quote from: anti-squirrel on December 25, 2019, 11:29:42 AM

My guess is- knowing what I do about Ukrainians (having married a gal with Ukrainian roots)- Aesthetics are less important than performance. If the performance is in line with other Zbroia, should be a good shooter. For folks who don't worry about noise (hunters and those with rural property) not an issue. For those dealing with pesting (such as me), I don't mind swapping an LDC from another gun as needed.

Plus Ukrainian! A few threads back, I distinctly recall praise for airguns from eastern Europe

Don't get me wrong, I really like the gun's looks,....I just don't thing a shroud would have been much more expensive then that LDC and it would have looked better and most likely come out shorter too

Nomadic Pirate · « **Reply #27 on:** December 25, 2019, 12:25:45 PM »

I like that having the air tube not going past the trigger makes the gun less top heavy

jarmstrong · « **Reply #28 on:** December 28, 2019, 02:32:56 PM »

saw this photo on Zbroia facebook it has a shroud

and a leather cheek piece for those who are always looking for after market ways to keep cold steel insulated from their face in cold weather

Nomadic Pirate · « **Reply #29 on:** December 28, 2019, 03:48:38 PM »

Could have gone a bit thicker on the shroud, .....yet an improvement none the less

anti-squirrel · « **Reply #30 on:** December 28, 2019, 05:04:27 PM »

Now that looks excellent. I'm okay with a skinny shroud; I'd still opt for something by Donny, Neil, or David on the end to keep things civil in the backyard.

If Zbroia intends to sell like that, I want one.

Rallyshark · « **Reply #31 on:** December 28, 2019, 05:16:35 PM »

I think it looks great just like it is. Looks are secondary to function for me. Function is form usually in my book. If adding a full shroud makes it quieter, then great. If adding a full shroud just makes it look different, then it is a waste of time and money.

Tygon · « **Reply #32 on:** December 29, 2019, 09:01:43 AM »

Quote from: Nomadic Pirate on December 25, 2019, 11:05:16 AM

Quote from: jarmstrong on December 23, 2019, 08:25:34 PM
Well, it would not be hard to fab one up, and I would make it a little long and use the moderator to push on the shroud and pull on the barrel for a little tension

Sure, but doesn't all that beat the argument "to keep the gun cheaper" ?.....when even before you buy it you already know you'll be spending more money for a decent LDC or a shroud ?

i think $1k is reasonable.
STOP and think..............how many people spend $2k for a gun and STILL spend more for a moderator!

skorec · « **Reply #33 on:** December 29, 2019, 10:26:50 AM »

Yes nice design just I am thinking if air bottle behind trigger assembly ( between the shoulder and triggering hand ) is not a little bit better . Also thin air tube lengthwise the barrel is nice bulb up solution.

Nomadic Pirate · « **Reply #34 on:** December 29, 2019, 12:14:22 PM »

Quote from: Tygon on December 29, 2019, 09:01:43 AM

Quote from: Nomadic Pirate on December 25, 2019, 11:05:16 AM
Quote from: jarmstrong on December 23, 2019, 08:25:34 PM
Well, it would not be hard to fab one up, and I would make it a little long and use the moderator to push on the shroud and pull on the barrel for a little tension

Sure, but doesn't all that beat the argument "to keep the gun cheaper" ?.....when even before you buy it you already know you'll be spending more money for a decent LDC or a shroud ?

i think $1k is reasonable.
STOP and think..............how many people spend $2k for a gun and STILL spend more for a moderator!

Exacly !!!!!

Saving 30-40-50 bucks in production on a Grand gun by non coming out with a decent shroud will not change the selling capability,

and adding 30-40-50 bucks to the cost of a Grand gun by having a decent shroud on it will not hinder the selling capability either

zx10wall · « **Reply #35 on:** December 29, 2019, 04:21:29 PM »

Does anyone know how the magazine system indexes? If memory serves me correctly, the earlier Zbroia offering has an issue with their flimsyish indexing arm getting out-of-whack.

Good looking gun, me thinks. I’d install some carbon fiber tubing over the exposed barrel but I don’t think it looks bad as is.

KnifeMaker · « **Reply #36 on:** December 29, 2019, 07:06:09 PM »

Remove that butt ugly fore arm, add closed cell neoprene, add a decent shroud and it would look like much like the hard to get Huming Bird. Loved the looks of them.

jarmstrong · « **Reply #37 on:** December 29, 2019, 08:07:27 PM »

ZX,, The magazines are different from the Kozak according to Andrey at Zbroia, so the mag advance system is probably different

Knife, the forearm will work great for my style of shooting , on the move finding something to lean on or againist
but it looks like one screw and that forearm comes off and it looks like a support for the airtube is there and you might mount a pic rail to it for them that enjoy a bench and a range to play on

anti-squirrel · « **Reply #38 on:** December 29, 2019, 10:32:47 PM »

Does anybody know the cost? Not a "I think $1k" but a hard-set price?

Cuz me want!

ranchibi · « **Reply #39 on:** December 29, 2019, 11:29:51 PM »

Quote from: anti-squirrel on December 29, 2019, 10:32:47 PM

Does anybody know the cost? Not a "I think $1k" but a hard-set price?

Cuz me want!

Peter, I don’t know the exact price but you can call Joe Brancatto 714-612-5956, he will now have a definitive price..should be very close to 1K. Very light and compact. The trigger guard folds forward and the foster fill is under the guard! Lever action is smooth and their barrels are CZ like in accuracy.

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