FWB 124

[Dennis22]

I got a new one recently, at a ridiculous price, and an old one a few months ago.
Was thinking about writing a side by side, but the truth is that, OoB, the new one is a sad specimen of an airgun. So, that will have to wait till I have time to get a grip on what would be the best way to tune them.

I do have to say that the older one shoots nicely. Not particularly fond of either of the two stocks I have for it, but it shoots nicely.

Springers are somewhat peculiar beasts, but that is what makes them interesting (apart from the fact that they CAN be accurate, LOL).

;-)

HM

Hector

What is the going price for a FWB300 with a Tyrolian stock in good shooting condition

Dennis

[Buldawg76]

Dennis
I am with you 100% on keeping the old ladies going as well. I do differ in the mindset that at least as far as bikes go there are very few new models that appeal to me when compared to my 77 KZ1000 or 76 shovelhead that I have restored and hot rodded to my personal tastes.

I also prefer the older airguns as well for the most part but there are some new one out with very appealing features for very reasonable costs.

I guess being a retired auto/cycle tech with 50 years of tools in my garage allows me the ability to revive most anything I put my mind to and bring it back from the grave so to speak. My 124 is one of my favorite springers to shoot and is for sure more accurate than me on any given day.

I am just stuck in the 70s frame of mind when it comes to my toys. The world today is just to complex for my simple tastes and lifestyle.

BD

Oh I don't think we differ in that I too really like my old Norton, but neither your KZ1000 , shovel head or my Norton will keep up with the new bikes,  but I still think the old ones have a class that makes them very desirable for what they are.

Not many flolks say a work when a new 1200 Yamaha pulls up to the light but I always have a conversation when I  ride the Commando,, bet you do too when your ride the shovel Head.

Dennis
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Dennis

I think you missed the mention of my KZ and shovel being hot rodded by me in the process of rebuilding them. The KZ is a 9.5 second 1/4 mile drag bike with slick and wheelie bar that I put back in street trim so while a new crotch rockets can out run me in top end speed easily, if they do not have a lengthened swingarm or are experienced riders able to control clutch slippage to prevent wheelies my KZ will leave them from a stop since it does not wheelie but rather sits out to the right slightly with rear tire spinning with front wheel 1"  in the air. It surprises every new crotch rocket from stop light to stop light or up to 100 mph before they start to catch up and pass me. Its a wolf in sheep clothing.

The shovel is also no where near stock and while it is no faster from a stop than a hot rodded evo or twin cam Harley it does have much longer legs than an evo or twin cam in that they run out of gearing at around 115 mph whereas my shovel is at 5200 rpm at 120 mph with a 6000 rpm redline that it pulls strong all the way to in 5th gear. So when they run out of gearing I just look over and smile and twist the throttle and chug on right out of there life. I built it while I was a mechanic for Harley at the Talladega test facility next to the super speedway from 98 to 09. We did 80% of all research and development for for new model Harleys and I got the job with them when the v-rod was first being developed since I was a GM master certified Cadillac tech at the time and there were no mechanic at the test facility that had any experience with fuel injection/computer controls. My specialty at the Cadillac dealer was drivability, emissions and computer controls. So I picked the head engineer of Harley service dept that had been with them from the knucklehead days on how to fix all the issues that plagued the shovels of the AMF days as well as how to make it out run the newer evos and twin cams. He did not disappoint is all I can say. The new milwaukee 8s do out run me from a stop but still do not have the top end speed of my shovel.

Yep both bikes are real conversation starters for sure. Being able to do all my own work from the ground up on my toys does make a big difference in attention to the small details that add up to a complete package of performance. I am have a need for speed that started as soon as I could walk and will follow me to the grave.

Here's a couple pics of the KZ, sorry have no good ones of the shovel.

BD       

[HectorMedina]

HM,
Ed, aka Duckfish bought a new 124 last year.  He was NOT impressed, then he send it out to a tuner, contact Ed for that, tuner spent lots of time "playing with it".  Now it shoots the way it is supposed to.  It now has the performance and dream shot cycle to go with its very handsome appearance.

-Y

Thanks Willem, I really appreciate the suggestion, hope you don't take it wrong but, as a gunsmith, I am looking at the "faults" and all the corrections possible, not at just one solution.

I don't know about "handsome", though I do not have as good tastes as you do. But to ME, the new "Sport" is too angular. I much prefer the more "organic" forms (perhaps that is why I love curvy women, LOL!)

Keep well and shoot straight!




HM

[Buldawg76]

HM,
Ed, aka Duckfish bought a new 124 last year.  He was NOT impressed, then he send it out to a tuner, contact Ed for that, tuner spent lots of time "playing with it".  Now it shoots the way it is supposed to.  It now has the performance and dream shot cycle to go with its very handsome appearance.

-Y

Thanks Willem, I really appreciate the suggestion, hope you don't take it wrong but, as a gunsmith, I am looking at the "faults" and all the corrections possible, not at just one solution.

I don't know about "handsome", though I do not have as good tastes as you do. But to ME, the new "Sport" is too angular. I much prefer the more "organic" forms (perhaps that is why I love curvy women, LOL!)

Keep well and shoot straight!




HM

I'm with you Hector on the to angular stock of the sport and much prefer the organic look of curvy women as well.

BD

[HectorMedina]

Hector

What is the going price for a FWB300 with a Tyrolian stock in good shooting condition

Dennis

Sorry, Dennis, it seems we posted at exactly the same time and I didn't get this until I refreshed the page today. Apologies.

FWB 300's are quite plentiful, even somewhat interesting variations.

NORMALLY, the "standard" versions go for between €175 and €250 depending on condition and how fast the seller needs the money.
Left handed stocks  may go for a little less.
There are SOME Carbon Fiber wrapped stocks out there, those go for about €350
Tyro stocks usually command about €50 MORE (so between €250 and €350 depending on condition). And it has to do with cultural reasons, more than real market appeal/demand.

Right now, the used gun market is VERY high, part of CoViD-19 and everyone shopping from home; when this blows over, there will be a lot of opportunities to be picked up.

HTH



HM

[Dennis22]

Thank you
I was looking at one on AA classifieds, but it sold
They were asking $695.00


Dennis

[Kragman1]

One pellet that my 124 seems to like is the 9.3 grain RWS Supermag (wadcutter).  Enough so that I will be trying them in all of my other .177's as time goes by.  They shoot like longer Meisterkugeln's.  I'd expect them to stay stable a little further than a lightweight wadcutter, and I'd bet they would be good on pests too.