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c_m_shooter · « **Reply #20 on:** December 03, 2019, 03:50:56 PM »

Look for a used RWS 34. They have been around a long time for a reason. If you are a prepper, you can stash a few seals and a couple springs and be set for life. There is one on the airgun nation forum with a tune and scope for $250 now.

superchikn · « **Reply #21 on:** December 03, 2019, 05:07:05 PM »

I love my Diana 34 .177, I love my Nova Freedom .22, I love my Daisy 880 .177. I love many of the guns I have for many reasons.

For what you want, I believe that the Crosman Summit Ranger would be tough to beat at this price, especially if you order on Friday and get free shipping.

Mine is powerful, extremely accurate, very easy to shoot, lightweight, durable, easy to cock.
https://www.crosman.com/holiday-2019/airguns/summit-ranger-np2-22
My first thought was the Freedom, which would be a great gun for your needs, but I thing the SR would be better for you.
Ray

Gertrude · « **Reply #22 on:** December 03, 2019, 07:06:02 PM »

Lots of good suggestions already
You can also post a "wanted to buy" ad in the classifieds here.
It all really comes down to 2 things

1 - what your REALISTIC budget is.
That is what will help you determine what is available to fit your needs.

2 - what order of your listed parameters is most important, for being 100% self sufficient or what level of reliance you can accept for required support equipment.
I.e. a Springer vs Pumper vs Co2 vs PCP.

A.K.A. Tommy Boy · « **Reply #23 on:** December 03, 2019, 08:36:55 PM »

Hi Roy

Good Luck on your selection of airgun !

Best Wishes - Tom

Back_Roads · « **Reply #24 on:** December 03, 2019, 08:59:03 PM »

I'm sort of close to the OP, perhaps he can travel up by me and browse my selection ? 45 guns to play with at least

supertech77 · « **Reply #25 on:** December 03, 2019, 08:59:48 PM »

https://www.airgundepot.com/browning-leverage.html
you said your a prepper,so I would consider something that would work when there is no electric,and get the job done,the above would work,is within your budget,,myself were I a prepper my choice would be a 22 cal benjamin pumper,or a sheridan 20 cal both with open sights,or https://www.airgundepot.com/seneca-aspen-air-rifle.html [a 25 cal aspen would be all I would need, and i would stock up on pellets, 😎)

MadDelver · « **Reply #26 on:** December 03, 2019, 09:39:39 PM »

Well, I jumped. An old Navy buddy(we saw combat together) and I were in Walmart, and while I know I could have gotten a better deal, you may know how it is when your friend is looking at guns with you. Well, it is mostly my fault, I have been telling him about my research into hunting with air.

I bought the Ruger Impact Max Elite, it has all the features I wanted. My buddy got the Ruger Air Hawk Elite 2, opting for speed and he has a pistol that shoots 177. It amazed me how quiet my rifle is next to his, those sound dampening chambers work wonders. From a survivalist/prepper stand point, it would be nice if his was quieter.

Now we wait for deer season to end so it is safer in the woods and we aren't ruining someone elses deer hunt.

Thank you for all the responses, I never had so many respond so quickly in a forum before. You all are awesome. In a few months I may be looking for a PCP, so keep the advice coming.

MadDelver · « **Reply #27 on:** December 03, 2019, 10:35:07 PM »

Oh, and pellet optimization! Should I start a new thread or can it be continued here? I'm primarily interested in choosing the best pellet design for my and my buddies rifles to get the cleanest kill. I have read that one brands manufacturing is inconsistent throwing accuracy out the window.............

Before I get carried away, new thread or continue here?

Back_Roads · « **Reply #28 on:** December 03, 2019, 10:45:36 PM »

In ,177 10.xx gr domed pellets in .22 14.xx - 16xx gr IMO brand Crosman or H@N and JSB from my findings.

A.K.A. Tommy Boy · « **Reply #29 on:** December 03, 2019, 10:57:25 PM »

Quote from: MadDelver on December 03, 2019, 10:35:07 PM

Oh, and pellet optimization! Should I start a new thread or can it be continued here? I'm primarily interested in choosing the best pellet design for my and my buddies rifles to get the cleanest kill. I have read that one brands manufacturing is inconsistent throwing accuracy out the window.............

Before I get carried away, new thread or continue here?

Keep going here. If the moderators want it moved they will move to to the gate that they think is best.

You are going to have to match the right pellet to your individual gun.

Get a sample pack from straight shooters and "have at it" to see what shoots the best in your gun. That is a cheap way to get started.

It's part of the journey with your new rifle.

Your are eventually going to wind up with... a whole lot of pellets.

Best Wishes - Tom

MadDelver · « **Reply #30 on:** December 04, 2019, 03:48:48 AM »

But Tom! Can't we spend hours, even days, discussing the pros and cons of different pellet designs, ultimately coming to no conclusive consensus?

Seriously though, I did not know such sampler packs even existed, thats a rather good idea! To do it right one would need a closed range, cronograph, a bench rest you could secure your weapon to, and ballistic gel to gauge the kind of damage each type of round did. Being a nerd, I would gladly assist anyone doing this. Being a man of limited resources it will be awhile before I can do this myself.

At the very least I will get a sampler pack and see what gives me the best groupings, then maybe get some ballistic gel to see which of those does the most damage.

I also ask for people opinions and experiences to expand my own understanding. As a nerd, I'm a bit of a knowledge junky. Already because of this forum my awareness of this sport has expanded beyond what my narrow mind thought was possible. While bench testing might answer a good deal of my questions, nothing can replace experience in the field. My military experience taught me that.

Thanks, Roy

Ronni · « **Reply #31 on:** December 04, 2019, 05:54:00 AM »

If you want a springer try getting a used/refurbished RWS 34 in .22 cal. If PCP then a Hatsan At 44-10 with a handpump.

A.K.A. Tommy Boy · « **Reply #32 on:** December 04, 2019, 06:29:58 AM »

Quote from: MadDelver on December 04, 2019, 03:48:48 AM

#1. But Tom! Can't we spend hours, even days, discussing the pros and cons of different pellet designs, ultimately coming to no conclusive consensus?

Seriously though, I did not know such sampler packs even existed, thats a rather good idea! To do it right one would need a closed range, cronograph, a bench rest you could secure your weapon to, and ballistic gel to gauge the kind of damage each type of round did. Being a nerd, I would gladly assist anyone doing this. Being a man of limited resources it will be awhile before I can do this myself.

At the very least I will get a sampler pack and see what gives me the best groupings, then maybe get some ballistic gel to see which of those does the most damage.

I also ask for people opinions and experiences to expand my own understanding. As a nerd, I'm a bit of a knowledge junky. Already because of this forum my awareness of this sport has expanded beyond what my narrow mind thought was possible. While bench testing might answer a good deal of my questions, nothing can replace experience in the field. My military experience taught me that.

Thanks, Roy

#1. Yes ...the discussion could be endless.

To start with....you want to zero in on accuracy of different pellets that are shot from your rifle. Different brands..different pellet weights...different pellet styles....and different ranges that the target is at..... all will result in different group size in your gun. Each gun is unique and will be different from the next gun.

I try to achieve a quarter sized ( 1 inch) shot grouping at whatever range I am shooting.
For me, 1 inch is good enough for hunting purposes but a tighter shot group is ....well ....it is always better (more desirable if you can get it)

Pellet accuracy in your gun is paramount. Everything else comes secondary.

After I establish a given pellets accuracy and at what range ....I then compare weights and pellet styles or types.
It is at this point where Balistic Gel would come in. There is information, in past posts, on how to make a "Homemade Ballistic Gel"... if you chose to do that.

Roy..we have a Gate...dedicated to past and present Veterans.
You may post your service there if you wish.
Here is the Link > https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=20872.msg1262047#msg1262047

Best Wishes - Tom

dave2288 · « **Reply #33 on:** December 04, 2019, 07:01:39 AM »

https://www.crosman.com/holiday-2019/airguns/summit-ranger-np2-22

BackStop · « **Reply #34 on:** December 04, 2019, 07:06:30 AM »

Hey Roy,

When it comes to airguns and small game, it has been said many times before, but it is worth repeating...

Shot placement (accuracy) is more important than devastating power. Even 50fpe is no good if it misses the target.

Wayne52 · « **Reply #35 on:** December 04, 2019, 07:31:40 AM »

Early on right after I really got into the pcp's I bought a Discovery for my first and it's still bone stock and loud. Another thing I started getting very inquisitive about was being able to cast my own pellets and I thank Bob Sterne and N.O.E. for Bob designing the fantastic molds and NOE building them. This prototype I'll show here really deserves a better scope than I have on it but it too also loves the .25 Hunter pellets that I cast.

I need to check out FDAR because rumor has it they've got news on products to come. Rumor has it new ones are going to be side levers and I want the .22.

Wayne52 · « **Reply #36 on:** December 04, 2019, 07:37:38 AM »

I just checked FDAR and the new Sentry's and Sentry Deluxe's will be available soon after Christmas. There won't be any .25 Sentry Deluxe's in this shipment.
http://flyingdragonairrifles.org/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=70
when I viewed this on FDAR it appeared to be work in progress, according to this it's 2-3 days

c_m_shooter · « **Reply #37 on:** December 04, 2019, 10:45:12 AM »

For pellet testing, try the Crosman premiers from Wally world first. If they are accurate enough, great! It is nice to have a local supply of ammo. If they aren't up to the task, then try a few mid weight offerings from H & N and JSB. Stick with mostly round nose designs. Expansion is way over-hyped with air rifles, especially springers that have a fairly low to mid power capability. If you have to order pellets online, Pyramyd air does a buy 3 get 1 free deal that mostly offsets the shipping cost, and they package them better than most.

c_m_shooter · « **Reply #38 on:** December 04, 2019, 10:48:09 AM »

Don't even think of locking a spring gun down for accuracy testing. Spring guns need to be allowed to recoil and there will be a learning curve to shooting it accurately. Some like a firm hold, some need the artillery hold, and the point of impact will change depending on where you support the forend. Be prepared to take some time with it.

BackStop · « **Reply #39 on:** December 04, 2019, 10:58:08 AM »

Quote from: c_m_shooter on December 04, 2019, 10:45:12 AM

For pellet testing, try the Crosman premiers from Wally world first. If they are accurate enough, great! It is nice to have a local supply of ammo. If they aren't up to the task, then try a few mid weight offerings from H & N and JSB. Stick with mostly round nose designs. Expansion is way over-hyped with air rifles, especially springers that have a fairly low to mid power capability. If you have to order pellets online, Pyramyd air does a buy 3 get 1 free deal that mostly offsets the shipping cost, and they package them better than most.

+1

Even the Piranhas didn't seem too bad, until I tried the 10.5 Domed. The latter is what I use in all of my Freedoms. They are the most accurate I have found for those guns.

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