Okay guys, I'm going to re-barrel a .22, and I wanted some opinions from others on the different barrels out there. My number one requirement is that it shoots some variant of HP pellets(H&N usually) OR shoots some of the lighter weight slugs well(under 25 grain). The barrel liking the Monster redesigned would be good too, but most barrels tend to like those. I will be getting the barrel machined to fit, so will be starting with a blank most likely. I know I'm asking someone to say "get this barrel", and that like most, I want it to shoot great with everything,lol. I'm aware there is no perfect barrel for everything, but hopefully you guys can offer some input to help me narrow down the direction I want to go. I could go with a known barrel I've used before, and that would be a LW Polygon choked barrel. That barrel doesn't like a ton of pellets, but it did love the NSA 21 grain slugs and JSB Monsters. However, those NSA slugs aren't part of the the options anymore. I've also considered an an unchoked poly barrel. I love how little cleaning they need. The downside being they are pellet fussy and like speed. I will be shooting the gun in the 30-55 fpe range, so speed is fine sometimes, but I would like the ability to use lower power tunes around the house. So, right now it is up in the air on what barrel I will get. No soda straws, because it will need a 1/2-20 thread on the end Barrels considered are listed below:-LW Poly choked-LW Poly unchoked-LW standard unchoked-Weihrauch 16mm OD choked or unchoked(if I can get one)-CZ 200 barrel from PA(seems to be enough material to machine it to fit. It will be going on a Synthetic Flashpup, so length is a bit open. The factory barrel isn't bad, but it doesn't like much of the ammo I do. It likes ammo that I would only use for targets. I just don't want to go shorter than the factory 17.75" barrel. I am open to anywhere from 18-23". I'll probable try and go with about 19-20". I would greatly appreciate anyone's input or experience with any of the barrels I listed, or any I didn't. I'd like to know what ammo they like, of course. If I do use slugs, they will probably be from NSA. Bring on the opinions and info please!
Donny,Rocker1 is installing a CZ 200 barrel on my skyhawk, give me aweek or 2 and i will tell you all about it....
Quote from: gendoc on November 10, 2019, 06:21:25 AMDonny,Rocker1 is installing a CZ 200 barrel on my skyhawk, give me aweek or 2 and i will tell you all about it.... Is he doing all the machining, or did you get that done elsewhere?
Knife, those are some killer prices! Unfortunately they won't work for my application Rkr, the adapters would be nice, but the OD of the soda straws are too small to fit the breech too. Throw in an o-ring groove, and it is getting pretty sketchy at that point. I had considered putting an o-ring groove on the probe, but I'm not sure how well it would hold up going through magazines all the time. I'm too lazy to mess with single shot loading. If that were not the case, I'd have an Airforce John, I've been eyeing those CZ200 barrels for a long time! I've very curious to see how yours turns out. Tell Mr. David that I hope he does barrels better than he drives, hahaha! I'm just joking. He'll know probably laugh, because Mr. David and I play Gran Turismo Sport online and try to beat each other's lap times. I suspect that gun is going to be a heck of a shooter when he gets done with it! Come on people, more input!
I was able to use one of the liners knife mentioned in .172. Instead of using carbon fiber I slipped mine into a 4140 tube, tig welded one side threaded the other and put the barrel under tension. Then I ground down the nut and can thread it to 1/2 x20 now. Another person made a collet to hold the breech o ring and transfer port. If you made a threaded collet and threaded tension nut with threads on both sides and had a carbon fiber or steel tube then you could change out liners at will. You could do the same thing with a tj liner and have hammer forged in pellet calibers. Or if you went with slugs you have a lot more options out there by buying a pb blank. Columbia river does polygonal barrels and blanks.
Donny, the cf tubing extends all the way thru the breech. So no issues there. Hobbyman2007 made a thimble for his as per fx system. works well. Knife
What about an FX smooth twist x barrel and liner blank? This way you can change liners for pellets or slugs.
Quote from: Rallyshark on November 10, 2019, 12:12:26 PMKnife, those are some killer prices! Unfortunately they won't work for my application Rkr, the adapters would be nice, but the OD of the soda straws are too small to fit the breech too. Throw in an o-ring groove, and it is getting pretty sketchy at that point. I had considered putting an o-ring groove on the probe, but I'm not sure how well it would hold up going through magazines all the time. I'm too lazy to mess with single shot loading. If that were not the case, I'd have an Airforce John, I've been eyeing those CZ200 barrels for a long time! I've very curious to see how yours turns out. Tell Mr. David that I hope he does barrels better than he drives, hahaha! I'm just joking. He'll know probably laugh, because Mr. David and I play Gran Turismo Sport online and try to beat each other's lap times. I suspect that gun is going to be a heck of a shooter when he gets done with it! Come on people, more input!O-ring on the probe works just fine on BSAs and they have both self indexing and cuckoo clock magazines. You may need to change it every few thousand shots (5000+ in my experience) but since it's on the probe it's easy to do. For breech end I've used a fitting steel or copper pipe epoxied on the liner, some use CF tube and that also seems to work well. BSA barrels are great pellet shooters and they seem to do well with slugs as well. 15.5mm OD. They come in 12", 15" and 18.5" lengths.
The first barrel I would get is a TJ’s . They’re affordable and easy enough to get your hands on . For pellets and bullets I would go the 1:20” twist . The simplest method would be to get a 1/2” OD barrel and work from there. The only thing with a 1/2 “ or bigger barrel is the weight . Here’s a pic of the thimble i just made for a .172 barrel in 3/8” OD . I’m going to add a Carbon fiber tube that butts up against the thimble and epoxy it all together as 1 piece . That should keep the weight down
Thanks Knife . I’m still very new at operating the lathe . To be honest I dont even know which cutter I’m supposed to use for what type of cut I want . And let’s not talk about the RPM . That one has me baffled . I have a lot of reading to do regarding machining parts . Just have to find the time . Once again I’m out of town for the week which means no playing with the hobby .