Tell me your thoughts on the HW95L vs R9?

[airgunner69]

So the conversation has evolved, HW30 or 95L? Why not split the difference and end up with a better gun altogether, maybe best of both worlds..
I'm thinking HW35E.

I've read up on the 35 (as well as the 98/R10 mentioned earlier) and can see why those have been suggested as well but I always seem to come back to the R7/30 and/or R9/95.

I remember why most air gun people have more then one. There really isn't one, perfect do it all rifle. Just like people, they all have their pros and cons and what's best for one person may be the worst for someone else.

I'm in dream mode right now (you know where money is no object) so I'll buy the HW95L first and after breaking it in, I'll send it to Paul Watts for his magic (ADV tune, cut and shrouded barrel, setback trigger). While I'm waiting on that, I get the HW30 to hold me over and then when I get the 95 back, I send Paul the 30 to do his magic on again!

A guy can dream right! lol

[airgunner69]

Shucks, it's only money; they'll print more tomorrow... Am I on the radar as a notified enabler yet? Get 'm all.

Hey man, take it easy on me. It doesn't take much to enable me! lol

[Yogi]

Get real dude.....

Figure out at what distance you will be doing most of your shooting.  Back yard plinking.  going to a real range.  Hunting in the woods.
Figure out the distance of your anticipated average shot and go from there.

-Y

[Mark 611]

I didn't think Paul was tuning anymore?

[airgunner69]

Get real dude.....

Figure out at what distance you will be doing most of your shooting.  Back yard plinking.  going to a real range.  Hunting in the woods.
Figure out the distance of your anticipated average shot and go from there.

Um dude, pretty sure I've already done that, you might want to scroll up and read about it.

Just keeping it real dude 

[airgunner69]

I didn't think Paul was tuning anymore?

I have no idea? I used to drool over his stuff back in the day and did see that his site is still up but have no idea if he is accepting work anymore?

Either way, I did say I was dreaming! lol

[EMrider]

So the conversation has evolved, HW30 or 95L? Why not split the difference and end up with a better gun altogether, maybe best of both worlds..
I'm thinking HW35E.

I've read up on the 35 (as well as the 98/R10 mentioned earlier) and can see why those have been suggested as well but I always seem to come back to the R7/30 and/or R9/95.

I remember why most air gun people have more then one. There really isn't one, perfect do it all rifle. Just like people, they all have their pros and cons and what's best for one person may be the worst for someone else.

I'm in dream mode right now (you know where money is no object) so I'll buy the HW95L first and after breaking it in, I'll send it to Paul Watts for his magic (ADV tune, cut and shrouded barrel, setback trigger). While I'm waiting on that, I get the HW30 to hold me over and then when I get the 95 back, I send Paul the 30 to do his magic on again!

A guy can dream right! lol

I think you’ve got a pretty good plan there and I do think that PW will soon take new work once he clears out his backlog.

As much as I love my R7, it would not be my pick if I had to have one quality springer.  For a do-it-all springer I’d go with the hw95 or the hw50.  The hw95 can be tuned to shoot well at any power level between 9fpe and 15fpe and the hw50 is lighter and comes in at about 9-11fpe. 

Good luck choosing.

R

[Korak-again]

  I agree with EMrider. Having an R7 and a HW50 now and an H95 a while back. The HW50 seems like what you want.

[Bayman]

  I agree with EMrider. Having an R7 and a HW50 now and an H95 a while back. The HW50 seems like what you want.

I have all three, 2-30s, a 50 and a 95. Inside 30 yards I take the 30s for everything but varmints. The 50 is a great gun but has nearly as much cocking effort as a 95. I love them all but I think the OP has a good plan. If I could only have one it would be the 50. It can do most anything well. BUT if I could afford two it would be the 30 and 95. The 30 is alot easier (fun) to use than a 50 and the 95 will do anything the 50 will and then some. I had the 95 first, the 30s second and broke down and bought a 50 based on the following it has here. I love my 50 but it would go before my 95 or 30s

[airgunner69]

  I agree with EMrider. Having an R7 and a HW50 now and an H95 a while back. The HW50 seems like what you want.

I gave a lot of consideration to the HW50 when I first started looking. It is right in between the 30 and 95 in both power and weight but it just seems like one of those compromise choices that I don't care for.... i.e. not as light or fun as the HW 30, not as much power or as nice of a stock as the R9, harder to cock then both?

Now if we could still get the original HW50S or better yet, an R8 then it might be a different story?

While it will be more money, I think I would be a lot happier with an HW95L tuned for less power but smoother/softer shooting (maybe ~12FPE?) rather than a HW50 tuned or not?

Also, the other reason I'm leaning towards the 95 is the 30 and 50 both seem better suited for .177 and I'm really wanting a .22. I know you can get either of them in .22 and some people love them in .22 but the 95 seems better suited for .22?

I may be wrong about all of that but that's what I'm thinking anyway.

[airgunner69]

I have all three, 2-30s, a 50 and a 95. Inside 30 yards I take the 30s for everything but varmints. The 50 is a great gun but has nearly as much cocking effort as a 95. I love them all but I think the OP has a good plan. If I could only have one it would be the 50. It can do most anything well. BUT if I could afford two it would be the 30 and 95. The 30 is alot easier (fun) to use than a 50 and the 95 will do anything the 50 will and then some. I had the 95 first, the 30s second and broke down and bought a 50 based on the following it has here. I love my 50 but it would go before my 95 or 30s

That's pretty much what I'm thinking. Only real debate now is which one first (or better yet how to sneak both in at the same time and not get busted by the mrs lol)

[c_m_shooter]

Order from Krale, you only pay 1 shipping and both show up in the same box.  Just don't take them both out of the closet at the same time and you are in the clear.

[prosportfan]

I second baymans decision and cmshooter idea is good also.

[joek]

one other option is the HW85 from krale, it has the globe front sight with inserts like the HW95L if you want to shoot iron sights
https://www.krale.shop/en/weihrauch-hw85.html#all_specifications

[airgunner69]

Order from Krale, you only pay 1 shipping and both show up in the same box.  Just don't take them both out of the closet at the same time and you are in the clear.

That would be a great idea but it doesn't look like Krale has either of the exact models I'm looking to get? Looks like only AoA has them...

Weihrauch HW95L Field Pro .22 > airgunsofarizona.com/spring-piston/weihrauch-hw95l-field-pro-.22/

And

Weihrauch HW30S .177 Urban Pro Laminate > airgunsofarizona.com/spring-piston/weihrauch-hw30s-.177-urban-pro-laminate/

[Mrblonde40]

You asked if the epoxy was a bedding material or for attachment, and I don't know.  I removed mine 2 weeks ago.  Loosened the set screw and tried a heat gun, didn't work so I switched to a torch.  Still had to use channel locks to get it off, screwing up the finish on the last 2" or so on barrel.    But if you remove it, it is aluminum, I had put the channel locks on it before I realized that, it's a bit mangled now.  I'm going to weighcin on caliber though.  My thinking was that the .177 is cheaper to shoot and has better pellet selection.  That includes pellets right up to those used for Olympic competition, whether that expertise transfers in part to a manufacturers other offerings I don't know.  The .177 are a hassle to try to manipulate.  I have trouble with them and I have fingers like a ten year old girl.  But a pellet pen can make a world of difference when loading. 

[Bayman]

Order from Krale, you only pay 1 shipping and both show up in the same box.  Just don't take them both out of the closet at the same time and you are in the clear.

That would be a great idea but it doesn't look like Krale has either of the exact models I'm looking to get? Looks like only AoA has them...

Weihrauch HW95L Field Pro .22 > airgunsofarizona.com/spring-piston/weihrauch-hw95l-field-pro-.22/

And

Weihrauch HW30S .177 Urban Pro Laminate > airgunsofarizona.com/spring-piston/weihrauch-hw30s-.177-urban-pro-laminate/

Wow! You got good taste. In February I got a laminate 30 from AOA. Last month I bought a Luxus stock to dress up my Hw95 that I originally got from AOA about 4 years ago. I think you picked a great couple of rifle configurations. Right down to the calibers. You can can cover just about anything with those two. Warning it won't end there you'll be getting more 😊 I'd wish good luck with your new rifles but I know you won't need it. You'll be very happy no matter which one you get first

[Bayman]

Btw, a 95s range and power is worthy of a scope and I wouldn't even consider switching the rifle your considering to open sights. If you ever do just buy a new new barrel, they're cheap enough and I'll give you the open sights from mine. I will say my Hw30 with Williams peep sights is my favorite rifle to shoot. Bar none, including powder burners.

[Bayman]

one other option is the HW85 from krale, it has the globe front sight with inserts like the HW95L if you want to shoot iron sights
https://www.krale.shop/en/weihrauch-hw85.html#all_specifications

The Hw85 is exactly the same as the basic Hw95 except the barrel is longer. Both come with the plain abbreviated stock. The Hw95L has the deluxe stock.

[joek]

one other option is the HW85 from krale, it has the globe front sight with inserts like the HW95L if you want to shoot iron sights
https://www.krale.shop/en/weihrauch-hw85.html#all_specifications

The Hw85 is exactly the same as the basic Hw95 except the barrel is longer. Both come with the plain abbreviated stock. The Hw95L has the deluxe stock.

the HW85 has the better globe front sight with inserts the basic does not