Bore cleaning hw97 / fixed barrel underlevers

[Bayman]

I'm impatiently waiting for my Hw97 to come. I seldom clean bores but after the rust I found in my recently purchased Hw50 I want to clean the 97 when I get it. I never clean a gun from the muzzle before but I don't see much options for these guns. Please lmk what you do with your underlevers
Thanks

[Perazzi mx8]

I send my 97s to Motorhead. Barrel lapping is part of his basic tune after which I only clean the bore when accuracy starts to slide.          PX8

[c_m_shooter]

I use the patchworm from Champions chioce.  Do your best to get it straight before you feed the end through so it hangs up less at the muzzle.  If you have a roll of weedeater string, you can make your own by melting one end of a piece.

[Roadworthy]

I cock the rifle and insert a block into the action so it can't close.  I then use an Otis Micro Kit to pull a patch from the breech to the muzzle.  I use solvent on the first patch to remove gunk left from the factory.

[truck driver]

I cock the rifle and insert a block into the action so it can't close.  I then use an Otis Micro Kit to pull a patch from the breech to the muzzle.  I use solvent on the first patch to remove gunk left from the factory.

Plus one on the Otis cleaning kit and you don't have to worry about messing up the muzzle/crown with a cleaning rod.

[Bayman]

Patch worm and otis kit n/a in 177cal 

[Stinger177]

[Bayman]

Thanks I don't know what I did wrong looking up the otis micro kit. It said discontinued over 4 or 5 good vendors. Maybe I was accidentally chasing a older kit/version. Thanks for posting the link

[nced]

I'm impatiently waiting for my Hw97 to come. I seldom clean bores but after the rust I found in my recently purchased Hw50 I want to clean the 97 when I get it. I never clean a gun from the muzzle before but I don't see much options for these guns. Please lmk what you do with your underlevers
Thanks

When I owned a HW77k I simply used patches in a Crown Saver pull through for cleaning...........
https://www.mac1airgunshop.com/jl-crown-saver-p/jlcs.htm
Here are mine, one a couple decades old and a recently bought one.............

I would simply retract the loop so it was near the end of the flexible tube, feed the flexible tube through the bore till it exited the breech in the loading port of the receiver after cocking the gun, pull the looped cord from the tubing, put a patch in the loop, then pull the patch through the bore.....easy peasy!

Since the gun is cocked to do the bore clean, great care must be taken and the cocking lever firmly held to keep the fingers from being "chopped off" when pulling the end of the Crown Saver from the loading port (bear trap) with the fingers to put a patch in the loop just in case there is a "let go". Not really a biggie because I owned that HW77k for about 20 years before selling it and I never had a single "snap shut" incident with many bore cleaning sessions over the decades. 

[Oldgringo]

I'm impatiently waiting for my Hw97 to come. I seldom clean bores but after the rust I found in my recently purchased Hw50 I want to clean the 97 when I get it. I never clean a gun from the muzzle before but I don't see much options for these guns. Please lmk what you do with your underlevers
Thanks

When I owned a HW77k I simply used patches in a Crown Saver pull through for cleaning...........
https://www.mac1airgunshop.com/jl-crown-saver-p/jlcs.htm
Here are mine, one a couple decades old and a recently bought one.............

I would simply retract the loop so it was near the end of the flexible tube, feed the flexible tube through the bore till it exited the breech in the loading port of the receiver after cocking the gun, pull the looped cord from the tubing, put a patch in the loop, then pull the patch through the bore.....easy peasy!

Since the gun is cocked to do the bore clean, great care must be taken and the cocking lever firmly held to keep the fingers from being "chopped off" when pulling the end of the Crown Saver from the loading port (bear trap) with the fingers to put a patch in the loop just in case there is a "let go". Not really a biggie because I owned that HW77k for about 20 years before selling it and I never had a single "snap shut" incident with many bore cleaning sessions over the decades.

Using the above type cleaners, I put a short straw over the cleaner so as to guide the retracted cleaner loop into the muzzle and then do as NCED said above. 

Good Night and Good Luck.

[DanD]

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Using the above type cleaners, I put a short straw over the cleaner so as to guide the retracted cleaner loop into the muzzle and then do as NCED said above. 

Good Night and Good Luck.

Or, you can remove the HW97 muzzle brake endcap with a 7mm Allen key so the pull through has a clear path.

[prosportfan]

Bayman I use a straw on my prosport and the crown saver. Straw inserted into muzzle so I can feed the saver into the barrel. It gets hung up on the baffles if I don't. HTH

[fwbsport]

I have never cleaned the bore of an air rifle or air pistol in my life.

[nced]

I have never cleaned the bore of an air rifle or air pistol in my life.

<B>"I have never cleaned the bore of an air rifle or air pistol in my life"
The owner of the HW97 that shot these "before/after clean" groups (at 18 yards) also claimed that he cleaned the bore before I got the gun to check out because it wouldn't group.......


I have some personal "before/after bore clean" pics (shot sitting on a bucket resting the gun on cross sticks)..........

Anywhoo......I've read of other airgunners claiming to never clean their bores and I'm wondering what accuracy they are getting, especially for springer shooters. I have no experience with PCPs at all so perhaps they have better luck than I do concerning bore cleaning.

[fwbsport]

This thing with me has to do with owning a springer in 1969 by BSF in .177.  Never cleaned it and everything I learned about springers came from that little rifle.  I put a scope on it (Weaver V-6, adjusting from 3-6X) and could keep shots into the heads of starlings in the corral 35-40 yards away from my shooting position.  The bore was always shiny clean like all the bores of my air rifles now, and that BSF .177 never broke or shot wrong! Using crossman 500 to a tin red and white and black.  I even shot deformed pellets inside the crossman tins!

Finding a better .177 springer than that first one was not easy and it never came until I saw Beeman walking on Airway Drive with a mobile phone 12 years later in San Rafael (Terra Linda or North San Rafael).  Then I saw the HW rifles!  They all looked like bigger versions of that BSF .177 and I was back into the springer.

Some people don't walk under a ladder, and have attributes of ritual like washing their hands or making sure the door is locked twice instead of once.  This carries over with me.  I never had a problem not cleaning my bores so why fix it?

[SpiralGroove]

Hey Guys,
As you probably know, I tuned my HW77 after about a week .  Part of the tune meant cleaning the barrel from the rear with the internals removed.  I try not to clean from the front ... if at all possible.
A jag and good lapping paste ... then JB paste for me... Bright any shinny clean .

[SpiralGroove]

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[Yarddog]

Kirk, I'm with you on the JB paste, but I go in from the muzzle on mine...carefully,  and with a Dewey coated rod. Before I fire a new rifle, I do the JB/brass brush thang about twenty  times, then Hoppes #9, Ballistol,  and finish with dry patches. Thenceforth, I only clean if and when accuracy drops off, and when all other remedies fail. Had good luck doing it this way! 

Now then, on break barrels, it's from the breech.

Everybody has their own opinions on the best way, and hey...if it works for a guy, it's all good, I reckon! I derived my way from what other, smarter folks generally do...

[SpiralGroove]

Kirk, I'm with you on the JB paste, but I go in from the muzzle on mine...carefully,  and with a Dewey coated rod. Before I fire a new rifle, I do the JB/brass brush thang about twenty  times, then Hoppes #9, Ballistol,  and finish with dry patches. Thenceforth, I only clean if and when accuracy drops off, and when all other remedies fail. Had good luck doing it this way! 
Everybody has their own opinions on the best way, and hey...if it works for a guy, it's all good, I reckon! I derived my way from what other, smarter folks generally do...

Yeah, ... since I have the ability to go through the breech with the gun taken apart -> I do.  You only should have to aggressively scrub the barrel clean -  once , then ... it's just when accuracy drops off.

[Bayman]

I ended up buying this. I used it and liked it a lot. Thank you for posting the link.