Author Topic: Winchester 70-35 Bore size? (Read 6571 times))

Back_Roads · « **Reply #20 on:** August 30, 2019, 08:56:22 PM »

Paul, have you gone to Rotometals? Here's a link to their shipping page, It wouldnt hurt to contact them and ask. My 30 pound lead orders ship USPS so I do not see a large increase in cost. I know big bore guns get hungry fast

https://www.rotometals.com/shipping-faq-1/

Sbak · « **Reply #21 on:** August 30, 2019, 09:32:09 PM »

I'm not sure what alloy my dive weights are, but they are HARD. Just fyi

VaporTrail · « **Reply #22 on:** August 30, 2019, 11:43:32 PM »

Quote from: Back_Roads on August 30, 2019, 08:56:22 PM

Paul, have you gone to Rotometals? Here's a link to their shipping page, It wouldnt hurt to contact them and ask. My 30 pound lead orders ship USPS so I do not see a large increase in cost. I know big bore guns get hungry fast

https://www.rotometals.com/shipping-faq-1/

Thanks, James! I'll check em out, but I think I'd better stay in my chair when I check out the shipping estimate.

I'm sure I'll max the poundage in those flat rate boxes real quick.

And speaking of quick, yes they do get hungry fast. Be it air or lead, they have an appetite. My wallet isn't nearly deep enough to plunk with a big bore.

At least I have a compressor to keep up with my girls (2 Bosses and the Winchester).

On a side note...i discovered something about those BBTs you sent me. They seemed to tighten up at a lower velocity. Hmm...I'll do more tuning testing with them. Thanks again for those!

VaporTrail · « **Reply #23 on:** August 30, 2019, 11:46:12 PM »

Quote from: Sbak on August 30, 2019, 09:32:09 PM

I'm not sure what alloy my dive weights are, but they are HARD. Just fyi

Hmm...I wonder if any if the harder stuff will float to surface during a melting session. I really wanna try casting, but man, my wife is gonna hang me from my toes.

"You need to spend another HOW much?!"

Baby, baby...you know you're my queen, right?

VaporTrail · « **Reply #24 on:** September 13, 2019, 12:41:46 AM »

So just to check, I put five 1lb ingots in my shopping cart. USPS Shipping came out to $77.45.

So a total of about 150 bucks for 5lbs of lead. That should yield about 432 81gr pellets, assuming there's no waste.

So...150 bucks for 432 pellets.

On Pyramid, with their astronomical shipping prices, I can get 500 pellets for 192 bucks.

Tough call either which way it goes.

Nomadic Pirate · « **Reply #25 on:** September 13, 2019, 01:23:36 AM »

I might have a bunch of JSB for sale in the future if you want some and save a bunch on shipping

VaporTrail · « **Reply #26 on:** September 13, 2019, 01:34:12 AM »

Quote from: Nomadic Pirate on September 13, 2019, 01:23:36 AM

I might have a bunch of JSB for sale in the future if you want some and save a bunch on shipping

For sure, my bruddah! What calibers you have?

VaporTrail · « **Reply #27 on:** September 30, 2019, 09:23:49 PM »

Quote from: BigBird on August 29, 2019, 02:03:50 PM

There is a sample pack from that ebay seller.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/AIR-RIFLE-PELLETS-357-9MM-SAMPLE-PACK/163745552296?hash=item261ffed7a8:g:TN0AAOSwUPVcERKV

But if the rifling twist is too slow for bullets then it is a waste of time. Just use pellets.
Does anyone know the twist rate for these barrels. It might be good to know that spec. Just wondering about another factor. Does the velocity that your getting with pellets even lend itself to rebarreling to a different twist barrel?

And it appears I have overlooked this one. Sorry, BigBird. I don't know the twist rate for this barrel. Velocity actually isn't too bad...6 shot string:

866
877
882
884
881
877

I'm going to play around with fill pressure and see if I can bring up that first number. Maybe goof around with HS adjustment to see if I can stretch out that slight bell on shots 3-5.

VaporTrail · « **Reply #28 on:** September 30, 2019, 09:28:26 PM »

Initial testing with the slugs I got from Rick Morril on ebay wasn't all that spectacular. 82.5gr FT HPs. I didn't get to chrono work yet, but I'm wondering if I even need to.

The slugs were all over the place at 18 yards. Can't remember exactly, but it was something to the effect of 2-2.5" groupings.

I'll try again this weekend if time permits...possibly even stretch it out to 40.

The JSBs are still king; either stacking holes or making clover leaves.

SAGERAT NITEMARE · « **Reply #29 on:** September 30, 2019, 11:23:21 PM »

You might want to look at the TOTAL COST of casting...ALL the pieces and parts. Lead might be the costliest if you have to ship it, but lead melting pot, molds, temp gauges, handles etc can get a bit spendy and I can find most of my bullet needs at gun shows or through local casters. Even using Corbin products to swage with gets REAL spendy...but, Hey...this is your fun and you can't count the cost of fun, it take all the fun out of fun.

Better start hording lead before the Dems get wind of it.

Good Shooting

VaporTrail · « **Reply #30 on:** September 30, 2019, 11:36:15 PM »

Yeah...it's that startup that's gonna make the pill hardest to swallow. That, and I'd have to spend the better part of a year learning and getting into my groove.

And then there's the wife.

True, sometimes it's fun to work her over and push those buttons...but they seem to get even more incensed when you're laughing to yourself on the couch.

Bad sports, I tell ya.

Definitely something I want to try out, though. Casting, I mean. Not more nights on the couch.

Nomadic Pirate · « **Reply #31 on:** October 01, 2019, 01:37:19 PM »

If I was to cast for a -/+140 FPE .357 I would get the pellet mould that NOA has

VaporTrail · « **Reply #32 on:** October 01, 2019, 09:31:43 PM »

That sounds like an idea, bruddah Manny. Something in a .358 size, boat tail hollow point around 82-85gr.

I suppose I should look into it. Thanks!

Nomadic Pirate · « **Reply #33 on:** October 02, 2019, 03:35:47 PM »

No I was talking about the Pettel Mould that NOA makes,...pellet, not bullet

I think is a waste of time to try go bullets unless you have much more power on tap

a pellet with a flat nose like the one on the NOE mould will do just fine, no need for the Hollowpoint gimmick

VaporTrail · « **Reply #34 on:** October 02, 2019, 09:39:13 PM »

Quote from: Nomadic Pirate on October 02, 2019, 03:35:47 PM

No I was talking about the Pettel Mould that NOA makes,...pellet, not bullet

I think is a waste of time to try go bullets unless you have much more power on tap

a pellet with a flat nose like the one on the NOE mould will do just fine, no need for the Hollowpoint gimmick

Ah...got it. I think I need to try out some of the meplat pellets. I keep reading that they can throw quite the thumping. Do the meplats dump energy similar to the hollow points?

My cousin swears that HPs are the best all around choice, but for brain shots, I'd rather have a nice dome. I intended to use the HPs to open up my shot options; slightly behind the ear where it meets the jowl is perfect for hitting the neck bones. And with the size and energy that the Winchester is putting out, I'm sure it'd be quite effective.

However...if those meplats can dump similar to an HP, then that could possibly be the magic "in-between" pellet. If they can both penetrate and dump energy, then that might be the route to go.

Whatcha think, bruddah?

maraudinglizard · « **Reply #35 on:** October 02, 2019, 10:10:18 PM »

This is the mold Manny is talking about, I have one. It came with 4 sets of pins to change the weight of the pellet. I also have a mold from AAO that gives me multiple weights. Predator Polymags dump all their energy on impact, I rarely have a pass through with the .22 polymags. I have better results with pellets than slugs in my .35 cal. rifles.

http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/product_info.php?cPath=35_586&products_id=5559

http://www.africanairordnance.com/424820687/category/618414/pellet-molds

https://www.pyramydair.com/product/predator-polymag-35-cal-81-01-grains-pointed-50ct?p=1383

VaporTrail · « **Reply #36 on:** October 02, 2019, 11:46:10 PM »

Thanks Kris. I'd want to sample a couple of .356 pellets before putting down some cash; I'd sure hate to see 100 bucks go down the drain. The AAO stuff looks interesting, but holy smokes 300 bucks? Ouch.

Lol...my wife is going to wring my neck. I tried to make her understand that I'd be saving money in the long term with this initial investment, but all I got was a raised eyebrow. I fixed her a drink and did the dishes for her...and I left it at that. A smart man knows when to zip it.

I still want to try it out though.

rkr · « **Reply #37 on:** October 03, 2019, 02:07:36 AM »

I would suggest using these bullets from NOE: http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/product_info.php?cPath=34_255&products_id=3857

They have been rather accurate (same or better than JSBs) in Evanix barrels and work with Evanix magazines. Much better BC than pellets. Sized for .358 seems to work best.

VaporTrail · « **Reply #38 on:** October 03, 2019, 02:27:22 AM »

Hmm...those sound pretty nice, rkr. I keep hearing about .358 being the most accurate out of the Winchesters. I should mic those ebay slugs I bought and see what they come out to. That way I'll know to avoid them, since the slugs did not perform well at all.

I'll run a couple of other tests, but I'm not going to hold my breath. At least I only ordered one box.

rkr · « **Reply #39 on:** October 03, 2019, 02:56:07 AM »

Quote from: VaporTrail on October 03, 2019, 02:27:22 AM

Hmm...those sound pretty nice, rkr. I keep hearing about .358 being the most accurate out of the Winchesters. I should mic those ebay slugs I bought and see what they come out to. That way I'll know to avoid them, since the slugs did not perform well at all.

I'll run a couple of other tests, but I'm not going to hold my breath. At least I only ordered one box.

They shot like this from the crappy stock barrel:

100m-group_zps2d686c3d by abbababbaccc, on Flickr

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Winchester 70-35 Bore size?

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