If I had access to $5 fills to a large tank, especially so close, it would be an easy choice. Clean, dry, breathable air; no compressor maintenance, no filtration concerns, no moisture concerns.
I've not really noticed an increase in my power bill, but then I don't run mine but for about 5 minutes at a time. The water pump for cooling may run for hours, but the draw from that is minimal. Having said that, I'm with Craig, if I had an air tank fill station within 5 minutes of me and it was only $5 a fill, I don't think I'd have even considered a compressor! That's a heck of a deal there! Sell that compressor and get the largest tank you can find! LOL!
yep, you're lucky to have a fill station so close. 1 1/2 hour round trip for me and i only go in that direction when i need a fill. not like it's on the way to some place.
The shop that fills may also have a deal on a used tank Then you just need the fill gauge and valve/ hose.
...I shoot a lot, so that compressor will be running quite a bit. Power bill already jumped about 100 bucks...guess it's time to redo the paint on the roof as well. Yeah...the more I think about it, the more I start leaning towards a tank. AoA has a 75cf SCBA tank that's a decent price; brand new, has a fill station and a 3 foot fill hose. Now I just need to find a buyer.
Quote from: VaporTrail on August 18, 2019, 09:34:40 PM...I shoot a lot, so that compressor will be running quite a bit. Power bill already jumped about 100 bucks...guess it's time to redo the paint on the roof as well. Yeah...the more I think about it, the more I start leaning towards a tank. AoA has a 75cf SCBA tank that's a decent price; brand new, has a fill station and a 3 foot fill hose. Now I just need to find a buyer. Wait a minute. What's your electric rate? Average current over a fill cycle should be less than 15 amps. Taking a worst case, multiply by 120V is 1800 watts. Run that compressor for an hour and it is 1.8 kilowatt hours. Even at a high electrical rate of 50 cents a kilowatt hour it is under a buck for an hour's run. A five minute fill is 8 cents. Adjust for your own rates. To spend $100 a month would require an awful lot of fills per day every day. The fill shop is charging enough to pay for their electricity, filters, etc. So saving money that way seems unlikely... Except that it would probably reduce the usage due to convenience...
Quote from: Alan B on August 19, 2019, 12:19:05 AMQuote from: VaporTrail on August 18, 2019, 09:34:40 PM...I shoot a lot, so that compressor will be running quite a bit. Power bill already jumped about 100 bucks...guess it's time to redo the paint on the roof as well. Yeah...the more I think about it, the more I start leaning towards a tank. AoA has a 75cf SCBA tank that's a decent price; brand new, has a fill station and a 3 foot fill hose. Now I just need to find a buyer. Wait a minute. What's your electric rate? Average current over a fill cycle should be less than 15 amps. Taking a worst case, multiply by 120V is 1800 watts. Run that compressor for an hour and it is 1.8 kilowatt hours. Even at a high electrical rate of 50 cents a kilowatt hour it is under a buck for an hour's run. A five minute fill is 8 cents. Adjust for your own rates. To spend $100 a month would require an awful lot of fills per day every day. The fill shop is charging enough to pay for their electricity, filters, etc. So saving money that way seems unlikely... Except that it would probably reduce the usage due to convenience...I forget the electric rate...but it's a substantial jump once you hit over 10KW, I think. Or was it 7? can't remember. Something to the tune of almost double the rate. As for the compressor, I can say for certain that it pulls over 15A. When I first set it up, I used a multi-outlet surge protector extension rated at 15A. Once the compressor got to about 1000psi, it shut off. I wondered what happened, so I reset the extension. It got up to 1000psi again, and it shut off. This was the first two times I ran it, so it was the pressure plug on the end of the fill whip. The third time I paid close attention to the extension. It was tripping off. I thought it was odd because I have a washing machine running off this extension...could it be this little compressor is pulling more than my washing machine? That's when I decided to look at the amperage rating on the extension...which was 15. So essentially the compressor was pulling too many amps for the extension to handle. Plugged it straight into the wall...and no issues.I guess I can try running it for a month and see what the increase is on the power bill...and then compare that to the number of fills from a tank. It's just an estimate, but a 75cf tank should last me about a week's worth of shooting. Say I go hog wild...and require two fills a week. That's only 40 bucks a month on fills. 20 bucks if I stick to one tank a week...which may be more beneficial for me in the long run when you factor in how many pellet orders I'd have to be making if I shoot like a madman.
Quote from: VaporTrail on August 19, 2019, 03:38:42 AMQuote from: Alan B on August 19, 2019, 12:19:05 AMQuote from: VaporTrail on August 18, 2019, 09:34:40 PM...I shoot a lot, so that compressor will be running quite a bit. Power bill already jumped about 100 bucks...guess it's time to redo the paint on the roof as well. Yeah...the more I think about it, the more I start leaning towards a tank. AoA has a 75cf SCBA tank that's a decent price; brand new, has a fill station and a 3 foot fill hose. Now I just need to find a buyer. Wait a minute. What's your electric rate? Average current over a fill cycle should be less than 15 amps. Taking a worst case, multiply by 120V is 1800 watts. Run that compressor for an hour and it is 1.8 kilowatt hours. Even at a high electrical rate of 50 cents a kilowatt hour it is under a buck for an hour's run. A five minute fill is 8 cents. Adjust for your own rates. To spend $100 a month would require an awful lot of fills per day every day. The fill shop is charging enough to pay for their electricity, filters, etc. So saving money that way seems unlikely... Except that it would probably reduce the usage due to convenience...I forget the electric rate...but it's a substantial jump once you hit over 10KW, I think. Or was it 7? can't remember. Something to the tune of almost double the rate. As for the compressor, I can say for certain that it pulls over 15A. When I first set it up, I used a multi-outlet surge protector extension rated at 15A. Once the compressor got to about 1000psi, it shut off. I wondered what happened, so I reset the extension. It got up to 1000psi again, and it shut off. This was the first two times I ran it, so it was the pressure plug on the end of the fill whip. The third time I paid close attention to the extension. It was tripping off. I thought it was odd because I have a washing machine running off this extension...could it be this little compressor is pulling more than my washing machine? That's when I decided to look at the amperage rating on the extension...which was 15. So essentially the compressor was pulling too many amps for the extension to handle. Plugged it straight into the wall...and no issues.I guess I can try running it for a month and see what the increase is on the power bill...and then compare that to the number of fills from a tank. It's just an estimate, but a 75cf tank should last me about a week's worth of shooting. Say I go hog wild...and require two fills a week. That's only 40 bucks a month on fills. 20 bucks if I stick to one tank a week...which may be more beneficial for me in the long run when you factor in how many pellet orders I'd have to be making if I shoot like a madman.My only advice is to keep the YH as a backup. If yours is working well, then it will probably not stop working with very light usage for a LONG time. Of course, I could be wrong.My point is, unless you really need to sell it for the money... just keep it because you never know what might happen in the future. Always good to have a plan B, C, D, E, F, G, H... as far as you can afford! (grin)BTW, look elsewhere for your increased power/electricity consumption. One hour a day using the YH will not add up to $100 a month, unless your electric KWH rates are HUGE!!! If so, then I suggest you MOVE! (chuckle)My A/C can raise my electric bill by over $100 a month during the Summer months. I don't handle heat AND humidity very well and the house I bought 2 years ago is not very well insulated... apparently... (heavy sigh)
There is no way you are spending an extra $100 a month running this compressor, even if it is horribly inefficient. Something else is the source of your increase - this thing can't be more than a few dollars of it, even allowing for running the AC to remove the heat that it generates in your house.Something else is up . . . . the operational cost of running a compressor at home is ALWAYS going to be significantly cheaper than paying a dive shop for fills.
Yea, that something else is a new baby!!! Are you using cloth diapers? If so, it’s probably the washer and dryer running 24/7 that’s increasing your power bill!
The Yong Heng should not draw over 15 amps. Measure it and see. If it exceeds 15 or 20 the breaker will trip, depending on what the circuit has. Only use 12 gauge extension cords with it, the shorter the better. According to NEC the most continuous current allowed from a 15A power cord is 12 amps. The YH is not designed for continuous use so they can go up to 15, but not over, aside from brief initial starting current.One other thought - filling guns directly costs more than filling tanks. Re-pumping to pressurize the compressor, hoses and filters is an over head cost per fill cycle, and with a gun this overhead is a large fraction of the gun's volume, but with a tank it is a much smaller fraction. So more waste filling guns. Filling to a lower pressure lowers the maximum current though, which makes guns cheaper. Hard to predict which effect wins.Our electrical rates are pretty high, about 11 cents per kwh base and over fifty cents at the high tier or time period, depending on the plan. We're on the electric vehicle plan so it is time based, so filling early in the morning before 8 is at the lowest rate, then the mid rate kicks in until 2pm. So both for temperature/moisture and electric rates best to fill early in the day.
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