Survivalist Tools

[Relentless Holiday]

I’m surprised no one suggested a good old break barrel, like in a gas ram configuration. A theoben or beeman RXin 22 caliber will for sure provide meat in the pot in the form of rabbits, squirrels, etc. Food is food, and in a survival mode one is not gonna pass up a squirrel in hopes of that big deer that “may” come around.

As much as I like PCP guns today, I’d go with the simplest form of air gun hunting and that means a break barrel type. Only other thing one needs is ammo and a stash of springs and misc. seals. No tanks, hand pumps, melting of lead(gotta  score on lead, in order to melt, right?). One small leak from a disintegrated o ring from a PCP and it’s game over. The types of lube(silicone in particular) could be scarce in a survival situation, but a break barrel spring could be lubed up with simple grease.

Think about it this way- if sirens started going off, radio and TV news all say you are now on your own as the world is coming to an end, and you only have a few hours to high tail it into the mountains, how much gear are you grabbing for a pcp  vs a break barrel? I’m not talking about the powder burners that have to go, too, just power plant type in an Airgun.

Won't a sping compressor be needed for maintenance?  And I was under the impression that accuracy suffers due to hold sensitivity.  And that's the thing of hunting.  Just asking.  My one and only springer is a Hatsan supertac25 pistol/rifle in .177.  It's crazy hold sensitive ...So shooting upward or downward at game will change everything...and I just assumed a multi pump like a Benji 312 would be as capable in power with way less accuaracy issues in the field and much easier field maintenance.  But I said my 1322 for the weight factor.  It weighs nothing.

[pewpewfever]

In addition to taking game, I think another concern to a survivalist would be protection from large numbers of wild dogs, and if you are raising chickens or other livestock, fending off their predators.  I think a PCP is needed that can take down dogs with rapid reloads.  Can a .25 do that?

[Habanero69er]

A .25 Sumatra would have no problem with hogs or dogs.

[Nomadic Pirate]

Long term survival I take a PCP, a Hand pump and a mould over any other airgun platform out there without even blinking,.....for a huge variety of reasons.

[Hobbyman2007]

Long term survival I take a PCP, a Hand pump and a mould over any other airgun platform out there without even blinking,.....for a huge variety of reasons.

X2 ^
To add to that , I would take my .257 cal converted discovery ,the 257420 HP mold and a cheap Chinese handpump . From partridge to deer and just about everything in between wouldn’t stand a chance inside 150yards . Don’t forget an oring kit .

[oneshot61]

Long term survival I take a PCP, a Hand pump and a mould over any other airgun platform out there without even blinking,.....for a huge variety of reasons.

X2 ^
To add to that , I would take my .257 cal converted discovery ,the 257420 HP mold and a cheap Chinese handpump . From partridge to deer and just about everything in between wouldn’t stand a chance inside 150yards . Don’t forget an oring kit .

X2 too both of these. Denis, do you have more info on your disco based .257?

[Marc In Iowa]

I’m surprised no one suggested a good old break barrel, like in a gas ram configuration.

I too am surprised. Simple (yet effective) seems good for this. When the break barrel is sitting in the corner, nothing is under pressure or tension. Yet it can be brought into action very quickly. A BB plus a tin of 500 .22 pellets gives you a lot of shooting in a compact, simple rig. Something like the SIG ASP20? Shooting a BB well takes time to learn, start now. 🙂

[Nomadic Pirate]

Long term survival I take a PCP, a Hand pump and a mould over any other airgun platform out there without even blinking,.....for a huge variety of reasons.

X2 ^
To add to that , I would take my .257 cal converted discovery ,the 257420 HP mold and a cheap Chinese handpump . From partridge to deer and just about everything in between wouldn’t stand a chance inside 150yards . Don’t forget an oring kit .

Also remember, on a long term SHTF situation eventually stores will be abandoned,.....one thing no one will loot is O-rings you'll be able to fund O-rings everywhere and that's all you need to maintain your pump and rifle,   also lead will be everywhere.

[pewpewfever]

A .25 Sumatra would have no problem with hogs or dogs.

That Sumatra looks like a really nice option, right off the shelf.  Is there a moderator available for it? Will it fire round balls?  If not, is there a mold available that can produce the proper pellets for it?

[Nomadic Pirate]

A .25 Sumatra would have no problem with hogs or dogs.

That Sumatra looks like a really nice option, right off the shelf.  Is there a moderator available for it? Will it fire round balls?  If not, is there a mold available that can produce the proper pellets for it?

Neil Clague makes LDCs for them, there's a bunch of pellet/bullets moulds that will fit the Sumatra magazine

[Relentless Holiday]

A .25 Sumatra would have no problem with hogs or dogs.

That Sumatra looks like a really nice option, right off the shelf.  Is there a moderator available for it? Will it fire round balls?  If not, is there a mold available that can produce the proper pellets for it?

If it's anything like it's cousin the older korean Career 909 it would shoot balls great. my 9mm loved the bulk shotgun buckshot reload ammo.

A .22 carbine may be my next... fine guns!

[pewpewfever]

Where can you buy Neil Clague LDCs?  I can’t find a website for it that doesn’t redirect to an add for viagra.

[Habanero69er]

Here ya go Jen:
http://petersoncorner.com/clague/default.htm

[darkcharisma]

Where can you buy Neil Clague LDCs?  I can’t find a website for it that doesn’t redirect to an add for viagra.

the ads are related to what you have been browsing or whoever uses your phone... J/K

[pewpewfever]

Here ya go Jen:

Thanks.  I was able to contact him.

As far as Chinese hand pumps, I see Hiram and OrangeA brand hand pumps on Amazon for under $50.  Are those the ones?

[Back_Roads]

 I bought a Hiram scope it works well, like others have mentioned most hand pumps look identical except for brand names.

[pewpewfever]

I ordered a .25 Sumatra, 33ish grain JSB pellets, and pump, and I’m working on ordering the can.  What I need next is a pellet mold.  Any advice on a higher grain .25 hunting pellet mold?

[Back_Roads]

 In this gate you will find the answers.
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?board=229.0

[Nvreloader]

For the SHTF situations,
long or short term and will provide more to the food larder than anything else...........
there is one tool that almost get's forgotten, and will be used more than any other weapon......

It has not been mentioned here before............

Tia,
Don

[pewpewfever]

For the SHTF situations,
long or short term and will provide more to the food larder than anything else...........
there is one tool that almost get's forgotten, and will be used more than any other weapon......

It has not been mentioned here before............

Tia,
Don

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