Poor accuracy with cast pellets

[miksatx]

Yeah I probably should have turn it up to begin with lol. It shoots crosman hp at 760 at that setting.

[Franklink]

I pushed some of my cast pellets through a spare LW.

Here's what they look like.

The NOEs are much harder to push through the blank than the JSB, very tight at the choke.

The NOEs also seem to have a much larger bearing surface on the pellet head than the JSB.

I crushed a skirt of a JSB and a NOE to see if my cast pellets are harder. They felt pretty close. Also tried the how hard is it to make a dent with a fingernail test, also seemed pretty similar.

I'd almost hazard a guess that the  NOE are a bigger head size.

Haven't tried to shoot any through this particular barrel, just curious what the push through test might show.

[UlteriorModem]

Frank, I have a pellet head gauge. If you want send me a couple of each and I will check them. Accurate down to .01mm

Pm me and I will give you my address.

[miksatx]

I get .217 on the heads of my hunter magnum an .215 on the jsb heads.

[Wayne52]

I can measure pretty much any of my NOE castings with pure lead and they all measure the same dimensions that Bob intended them to with pure lead.

[Kinetic45^]

Invest in a tapered pellet sizing die?

A friend has one and it has taken off size pellets (name brand that should never passed QC or left the factory) that did not shoot well in a particular airgun and after he found how much sizing that gun liked it tightened up it's groups a lot.

[pelletboy]

i have the hatsan bullboss in .25 and have the NOE mould for the pellets they not to bad i was shooting eggs at 50 yards monday,  the heaviest pin likes to spiral, but then again im still breaking in the gun less than 500 rounds probalby closer to 300 lol. i have killed some tree rats with them   

[miksatx]

Invest in a tapered pellet sizing die?

A friend has one and it has taken off size pellets (name brand that should never passed QC or left the factory) that did not shoot well in a particular airgun and after he found how much sizing that gun liked it tightened up it's groups a lot.

I'd invest in one of the tapered pellet sizing die. If I knew where to get one lol.

[Insanity]

Look into the dies noe sells.

[miksatx]

Look into the dies noe sells.

I have been looking, but from what I read is that if you get a sizing die setup with a .215 bushing and resize the 217-20 pellet it would resize the head and skirt also. At least that what I believe it would do. But I'm all totally new to this and I might not understand how every thing works lol. Now if the taper die just resizes the head and leaves the skirt the same size it would be gold

[Insanity]

When the blast of air hits the pellet the skirt expands and fills the voids.

[Kinetic45^]

When the blast of air hits the pellet the skirt expands and fills the voids.

True for thinner skinned commercial pellets but I'm doubtful on the thicker skirted cast pellets.
NOE does not sell a tapered die but a couple of other makers do.
Does anyone have the addresses?

[Bob Pratl]

I purchased one of these from T.R. Robb, in the UK, a year ago and works great.