Author Topic: The break!, most super hyper effective ever. (Read 3149 times))

MJP · « **on:** May 25, 2019, 02:05:34 PM »

Wanted to design a new muzzle break for the Fury. It has to be effective and form is not a problem as we planned to 3d print it in stainless steel.

Cad work with Fusion, printed and sintered with Metal x 3D.
Design by me inspired by barrett break but improved inner shape.

Marko

Rob M · « **Reply #1 on:** May 25, 2019, 02:20:40 PM »

very cool.. Im guessing its better to finance the metal 3d printer ?? (-: pretty cool you have access to one

Jim Holmgren · « **Reply #2 on:** May 25, 2019, 04:50:07 PM »

How good quality does the 3d printer produce?

I guess it use stainless steel powder and laser weld it together? It will not risk to crumble into dust?

MJP · « **Reply #3 on:** May 26, 2019, 02:46:05 AM »

Thanks Rob, well this was kind of a test piece to test the equipment at one company. Work and time involved is substantial, it takes about a week to produce part that size and form that needs support material inside.

Surface quality is ok for the intended application, no laser used in the process.
Printer uses Atomic Diffusion Additive Manufacturing technology.
Part gets sintered after printing.

Marko

jkingsouthafrica · « **Reply #4 on:** May 26, 2019, 03:12:10 AM »

Looks Awesome well done

MJP · « **Reply #5 on:** May 26, 2019, 04:03:22 AM »

Thanks Jeremy.
Will be interesting to see how it actually functions next weekend.

Marko

TPL · « **Reply #6 on:** May 26, 2019, 05:22:27 AM »

Quote from: Jim Holmgren on May 25, 2019, 04:50:07 PM

It will not risk to crumble into dust?

The result is unbeliavably strong. It will not crumble to dust. 17-4 stainless.

Jim Holmgren · « **Reply #7 on:** May 26, 2019, 05:35:26 AM »

Quote from: TPL on May 26, 2019, 05:22:27 AM

Quote from: Jim Holmgren on May 25, 2019, 04:50:07 PM
It will not risk to crumble into dust?
The result is unbeliavably strong. It will not crumble to dust. 17-4 stainless.

Does it keeps the properties of forged stainless, or is it like a casting?
Most times one sees 3d printing it is only cosmetic/dekoration stuff thats are made, so I guessed it was not possible to make structurally supporting things...

Even if it's slow (1 week) it must be amazing to have the capability of making advanced parts in one whole peice.

Kinetic45^ · « **Reply #8 on:** May 26, 2019, 05:51:51 AM »

Quote from: Jim Holmgren on May 26, 2019, 05:35:26 AM

Quote from: TPL on May 26, 2019, 05:22:27 AM
Quote from: Jim Holmgren on May 25, 2019, 04:50:07 PM
It will not risk to crumble into dust?
The result is unbeliavably strong. It will not crumble to dust. 17-4 stainless.

Does it keeps the properties of forged stainless, or is it like a casting?
Most times one sees 3d printing it is only cosmetic/dekoration stuff thats are made, so I guessed it was not possible to make structurally supporting things...

Even if it's slow (1 week) it must be amazing to have the capability of making advanced parts in one whole peice.

That's 3D printing from a decade ago
Now jet engine fuel nozzles and blades are printed.
Several of the rocket engines by SpaceX, BlueOrigin, etc are 3D metal printed and some quite exotic alloys can be formed that can not be produced any other way.

In fact, a 3D printer was just transported up to the space station to make needed parts quickly so there will not be the cost and delay of launching them.

It's the future today.

TPL · « **Reply #9 on:** May 26, 2019, 08:20:49 AM »

Yo're right Carl, it is today already. There are companies having over ten printers subcontracting aerospace, automotive and medical industry. It is real production. And developing very fast.

Material properties are close to forging. There are different methods to print, this particular is very slow but machines are much cheaper than SLS lasers. With SLS this part would take about 24 hours to print.

Result is not completely solid, it is somewhat porous especially with this method. SLS makes about 99.6-99.8 solid. It is possible to solidify completely by hot isostatic pressing if critical. Also though having infill this is still extremely durable.

TPL · « **Reply #10 on:** May 26, 2019, 10:24:58 AM »

In some phase I will test this.

It is for .45 XP. What is that pipe over it? Well, sorry, I'm going to keep it to myself so far.

Jim Holmgren · « **Reply #11 on:** May 26, 2019, 02:39:10 PM »

Amazing!
Can it make threads too?

Is the a place where one can oder custom made parts like this?
And If one wants to design a 3d model, do you have a simple program that you recomend for a beginner?

TPL · « **Reply #12 on:** May 26, 2019, 03:13:00 PM »

Threads can be print too although surface is not smooth. Depends on method how good it will be. But yes, it is possible. 3D printing has its limits. Some machining is still necessary when tight measures and smooth surface are needed.

Unfortunately I don't think there is a place where everyone could order their metal prints from, not yet.

There are many CAD software that can be used and some of them free, like FreeCad. None of them are exactly for beginners actually but it is not that difficult at all.

Rob M · « **Reply #13 on:** May 26, 2019, 03:15:29 PM »

Quote from: Jim Holmgren on May 26, 2019, 02:39:10 PM

Amazing!
Can it make threads too?

Is the a place where one can oder custom made parts like this?
And If one wants to design a 3d model, do you have a simple program that you recomend for a beginner?

try tinkercad.. its pretty simple.

MJP · « **Reply #14 on:** May 26, 2019, 03:30:28 PM »

There are companies that do offer metal 3d printing services but the price isn't exactly hobby friendly.

If you want a good cad / cam package I can recommend Fusion 360
It's free for hobby / startup users.
Lots of tutorials online.

Marko

TPL · « **Reply #15 on:** May 26, 2019, 03:39:00 PM »

I think for the most of us it is hardest to turn your head into 3D. Just give it a try.

MJP · « **Reply #16 on:** June 02, 2019, 03:37:30 PM »

Got to test the break today, and it works really good! Venting about 30deg rearward as designed. Felt recoil is much reduced, it still got a nice manly kick to it as it should but much more comfortable in nature.
Got to shot some video of one shot and one still image of that pulled.

Will be shooting it more and maybe pulling some more power out of her now that I don't need to work so much against the recoil.

Marko

jkingsouthafrica · « **Reply #17 on:** June 06, 2019, 11:48:04 AM »

Quote from: MJP on June 02, 2019, 03:37:30 PM

Got to test the break today, and it works really good! Venting about 30deg rearward as designed. Felt recoil is much reduced, it still got a nice manly kick to it as it should but much more comfortable in nature.
Got to shot some video of one shot and one still image of that pulled.

Will be shooting it more and maybe pulling some more power out of her now that I don't need to work so much against the recoil.

Marko

Looks great most people think a muzzle break on an Airgun is a waste of time but they work and do a big job in reducing felt recoil

Prouzy · « **Reply #18 on:** June 07, 2019, 08:52:58 AM »

Quote from: jkingsouthafrica on June 06, 2019, 11:48:04 AM

Looks great most people think a muzzle break on an Airgun is a waste of time but they work and do a big job in reducing felt recoil

Wow, thats awesome Marko! I love that rifle................

I agree Jeremy, and as with rifles such as the stock Texans with their very long barrels, reduced recoil makes it easier to manage such a long shot cycle. I found that to improve accuracy dramatically.

MJP · « **Reply #19 on:** June 08, 2019, 02:46:22 AM »

Thanks Chris,
We will try to take some highspeed video next time out on the range. Last time the complete shot cycle was in two frames. Not very much info to analyze.

Marko

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