Pellet Skirt Repair?

[BigBird]

Are you reforming pellets that fit in the gun?

I had some that were damaged at the skirt but still able to be loaded.  I loaded them up and shot them and they were accurate.  It may matter what velocity you are shooting and the composition of the lead but they may just obturate to the bore the same as using your 1/4 headphone cord, 8 track tape or other obsoleted device that some people won't ID for fear of ridicule (I laugh at wireless ear buds because I'd lose them).  I still use headphones with earphones bigger than dougnuts and coiled cords that don't break.  I digress.

Think about the pressure at the pellet and there is probably more force than forming with your guitar connector.

Maybe someone needs to sell a smooth bore 22 that you can normalize damaged pellets by shooting them in water or a big roll of cotton.  That would at least be fun.

[Lefusil]

Are you reforming pellets that fit in the gun?

I had some that were damaged at the skirt but still able to be loaded.  I loaded them up and shot them and they were accurate.  It may matter what velocity you are shooting and the composition of the lead but they may just obturate to the bore the same as using your 1/4 headphone cord, 8 track tape or other obsoleted device that some people won't ID for fear of ridicule (I laugh at wireless ear buds because I'd lose them).  I still use headphones with earphones bigger than dougnuts and coiled cords that don't break.  I digress.

Think about the pressure at the pellet and there is probably more force than forming with your guitar connector.

Maybe someone needs to sell a smooth bore 22 that you can normalize damaged pellets by shooting them in water or a big roll of cotton.  That would at least be fun.

So I guess the question becomes how deformed a skirt can the gun’s puff of air correct?  Some of the dinged ones I have are pretty bad.

oh BTW apparently headphones with big earphones are now called “cans” and they are cool again.  Wait long enough and everything comes back in style. 

[BigBird]

This warning is for the birds literally and figuratively.

[fwbsport]

Big Bird those are my pellets and medication too!

[Arch_E]

You guys are funny! 

[Stinger177]

Big Bird those are my pellets and medication too!

You guys are funny! 

No, that's actually true.

Welcome to our world.... the GTA!!   

[CharlieSierra]

I wouldn’t bother unless you were so strapped for cash or pellets. I’d chuck the really bad ones and use the mediocre ones and let the air blow up and out the skirts. Use them for plinking. Time value of money says you are prolly better off just tossing the bad ones.

If you must, some tools of the trade:
Old car phone charger
1/4 inch headphone jack
Uses pen refill
Or the rare Pell Seat

[CharlieSierra]

If you REALLY want to go all in. Bust out the pellet sizing dies

[Lefusil]

If you REALLY want to go all in. Bust out the pellet sizing dies

Yeah, next time I get a flyer, I will be thinking "should have gotten that sizing die". 
You all are shameless enablers 

I did root around my junk drawer and found some 1/4" stereo jacks.  Going to see if it's the pellets or me causing the occasional flyer (likely it's me).

[Rico14]

Hello Rico, are this the 3.5 or the 6.35 mm earphoneplugs?

I use the 1/4"

[Insanity]

If I were better at CAD I would have designed and 3D printed skirt repair dies. But I'm not that good at that stuff... I just have a 3D printer and can do some basic stuff or if you send me a file I can print it for you at a reasonable cost.

[DHunter]

I made a 12-second video of pressing the plug into the back of the pellets, to attach here, but the forum software said the file size was too great, so I'll just put in a still picture.  Basically it was taking me three seconds to treat each pellet.  And again, I don't "inspect" them to decide whether to give them the treatment.  I just do it to all of them.  If three seconds is too long for ya, then so is loading the gun.

[Lefusil]

I made a 12-second video of pressing the plug into the back of the pellets, to attach here, but the forum software said the file size was too great, so I'll just put in a still picture.  Basically it was taking me three seconds to treat each pellet.  And again, I don't "inspect" them to decide whether to give them the treatment.  I just do it to all of them.  If three seconds is too long for ya, then so is loading the gun.

Yeah I'm going to try the stereo jack at some point.  It will be interesting to see if repaired vs. dented makes a noticeable improvement in group size.

[BigBird]

I made a 12-second video of pressing the plug into the back of the pellets, to attach here, but the forum software said the file size was too great, so I'll just put in a still picture.  Basically it was taking me three seconds to treat each pellet.  And again, I don't "inspect" them to decide whether to give them the treatment.  I just do it to all of them.  If three seconds is too long for ya, then so is loading the gun.

Yeah I'm going to try the stereo jack at some point.  It will be interesting to see if repaired vs. dented makes a noticeable improvement in group size.

Interested... so you are going to do some testing and give us some hard and fast data?

As a suggestion Lefusil,  so as not to hijack this thread, the scientist in me thinks we all need to do this as an experiment.

Damaged/unfixed vs damaged/fixed vs control (undamaged/non-normalized)?

[Lefusil]

Interested... so you are going to do some testing and give us some hard and fast data?

As a suggestion Lefusil,  so as not to hijack this thread, the scientist in me thinks we all need to do this as an experiment.

Damaged/unfixed vs damaged/fixed vs control (undamaged/non-normalized)?

Good idea!  I will try it out at 35 yards (and maybe 50 too).  Do you think 10 shots each is enough?  Or would three groups of five shots work better?

[Motorhead]

 In all seriousness, if you read the post from the link posted on the '"custom tool" that TRUES the skirt and does not flair it, you may have caught the verbiage on how a pellets skirt collapses when forced into a barrel
 UNIFORMITY / CONCENTRICITY so pellet yields to the smaller bore becomes very important for ultimate accuracy.

As too does it make a difference question ? .... 6 time AAFTA Rifle / Pistol, Nationals & Gran Prix Championships ALL WERE WON USING PELLETS prepped and corrected with a fitted skirt tool as shown.  ( Every pellet shot in competition gets trued )

Cleaning up damaged plinking pellets, tin damage etc ... a phono jack works as well as any.  Wish to get a bit more serious about accuracy 

For the record ... YES it makes a difference !

Scott S

[BigBird]

I take it you know the champion 

Sorry Scott, looking for quantifiable results and I didn't find them searching the forum... wild hair up there...

[Motorhead]

I take it you know the champion 

Sorry Scott, looking for quantifiable results and I didn't find them searching the forum... wild hair up there...

LOL ... it's all good.   I start head shaking when a post that has great potential for folks to learn something kind of gets sideways.  Or perhaps I'm too anal in not just letting it go

last statement being ... seldom do pellets get delivered as round & true at the skirt as they come out of the swage die during there manufacture ... all i got.

[Habanero69er]

eBay buy.

[Lefusil]

I like the pellet sizer.  Going to keep an eye peeled for one of those.

Ran out of time this evening to shoot anything, but here are some pics of the pellets.  All are JSB 15.89 grain.
The damaged ones are a random sampling.  The repaired were done with a stereo jack, which seems to work reasonably well if they're not too far gone.  The ones labeled "ok" were shipped from Pyramyd Air.
Hopefully I can get some time this week to do a shooting comparison.