Built my 1300kt rifle

[bantam5s]

Well minus the rear sight that I'm waiting to become available , the American boy rifle is complete.
Maybe not 100% done because I may do a little reshaping of the stock here and there but I'll decide after I've actually been able to do some shooting with it.



It took 3 trips to the hardware store for the screw, one wasn't long enough, and the next being a bit long I accidentally trimmed too much , the third I just added some extra washers to make up for the length.

It's not perfect by any stretch, but it wouldn't suit me if it was perfect.
If it was nobody would believe I did any of the work on it 

[35 shooter]

Nice looking rifle for sure!

[Matchstickshooter]

This is nice! What caliber and how fast?

[bantam5s]

This is nice! What caliber and how fast?

.177, how fast I don't know.
Whatever a 18" barrel 1377 / 1300kt does.
I tossed a scope on it ( holding the scope when I pump ) and have been testing it on 4 pumps.
It goes through a soup can at 15yds on 4 pumps with Crosman 7.4 grain points.

I had it in my mind to cut the barrel back to 16" but 18" seems perfect so I'm leaving it.

[bantam5s]

The Williams 5dag is out of stock even on their website, but PA and AGD have it available for backorder so I guess that means they're not discontinued.

I'll get one as soon as they're available for sure.
It really stinks that I had one ordered for a great price and my order was refunded for some reason, I'm not upset with the seller just bummed.
That was a couple weeks ago though so it's all in the past.

[Unk]

Forgive me if I didn’t catch it somewhere. But did you try from Crosman ?  I ended up with an extra LPA Mim because I always order my customs with one since hey are cheap from them.....   I will admit right here and now that I even like the Daisy Peep which is cheep and the Daisy Avanti rear diopter too but that one costs as much as the Williams.

[bantam5s]

Forgive me if I didn’t catch it somewhere. But did you try from Crosman ?  I ended up with an extra LPA Mim because I always order my customs with one since hey are cheap from them.....   I will admit right here and now that I even like the Daisy Peep which is cheep and the Daisy Avanti rear diopter too but that one costs as much as the Williams.

I don't think the sight crosman offers is the 5dag is it ?

I've got the Daisy 5899 on two guns already and it's a nice sight in my opinion , I just wanted to go with something different on this gun.

[Unk]

Forgive me if I didn’t catch it somewhere. But did you try from Crosman ?  I ended up with an extra LPA Mim because I always order my customs with one since hey are cheap from them.....   I will admit right here and now that I even like the Daisy Peep which is cheep and the Daisy Avanti rear diopter too but that one costs as much as the Williams.

I don't think the sight crosman offers is the 5dag is it ?

I've got the Daisy 5899 on two guns already and it's a nice sight in my opinion , I just wanted to go with something different on this gun.

You know I think you are right ! The ones they have have the micrometer adjustment instead of the low profile screws like the LPA.     I prefer the micros but on a hunting build it might be a little too busy!

[bantam5s]

Forgive me if I didn’t catch it somewhere. But did you try from Crosman ?  I ended up with an extra LPA Mim because I always order my customs with one since hey are cheap from them.....   I will admit right here and now that I even like the Daisy Peep which is cheep and the Daisy Avanti rear diopter too but that one costs as much as the Williams.

I don't think the sight crosman offers is the 5dag is it ?

I've got the Daisy 5899 on two guns already and it's a nice sight in my opinion , I just wanted to go with something different on this gun.

You know I think you are right ! The ones they have have the micrometer adjustment instead of the low profile screws like the LPA.     I prefer the micros but on a hunting build it might be a little too busy!

Those look nice, but I didn't want the extra expense for click adjustable knobs when I don't adjust my sights often.
Set it and forget it screw adjustment works fine for me.
If they're not in stock somewhere soon then I may look for the fp-ag I think it is.

[Ragboat]

I use Williams WGRS-54 peep on my Crosman Custom Shop guns

[bantam5s]

I use Williams WGRS-54 peep on my Crosman Custom Shop guns

That could definitely work.
If the 5dag isn't available soon I may go for one of these.

[ray1377]

Well minus the rear sight that I'm waiting to become available , the American boy rifle is complete.
Maybe not 100% done because I may do a little reshaping of the stock here and there but I'll decide after I've actually been able to do some shooting with it.



It took 3 trips to the hardware store for the screw, one wasn't long enough, and the next being a bit long I accidentally trimmed too much , the third I just added some extra washers to make up for the length.

It's not perfect by any stretch, but it wouldn't suit me if it was perfect.
If it was nobody would believe I did any of the work on it 

David

You mean to tell us you finally built your dream gun and don't have any construction or build pics for all of us?
It looks great for sure.  One like it is on my short list for someday

Thanks
Ray

[bantam5s]

Well minus the rear sight that I'm waiting to become available , the American boy rifle is complete.
Maybe not 100% done because I may do a little reshaping of the stock here and there but I'll decide after I've actually been able to do some shooting with it.



It took 3 trips to the hardware store for the screw, one wasn't long enough, and the next being a bit long I accidentally trimmed too much , the third I just added some extra washers to make up for the length.

It's not perfect by any stretch, but it wouldn't suit me if it was perfect.
If it was nobody would believe I did any of the work on it 

David

You mean to tell us you finally built your dream gun and don't have any construction or build pics for all of us?
It looks great for sure.  One like it is on my short list for someday

Thanks
Ray

I was too excited to just get it built 
It's pretty straightforward though.
Cut, nip, slowly route, drill, and assemble.

I went ahead and added a white spacer to the stock

I also added a bit of relief to the stock to get better access to the bolt handle.

[bantam5s]

If anyone is wondering, the safety has to come out for the trigger guard to fit through the stock.
It's removed by putting a pick through this slot behind the trigger and lifting that spring up , the safety will then drop right out.

[Ragboat]

The WGRS-54 sights work and look quite nice on the Custom Shop Guns.

I also make the front sight adjustable by using a 6/32 allen set screw and a short piece of the allen wrench that fits it glued
into the set screw.  I use a 6/32 black nut to hold the set screw in place, this makes a smaller front sight that works good with
the rear peep.
Sorry I don't have a better picture.

[mav72]

Looking good! 

[bantam5s]

Looking good! 

Thanks.

[xtred1]

Ah ha just what I have always wanted! Total two thumbs up! The QB78 and 13xx got together and had a child! With a good scope for gathering the night time light, and a TKO it would be a rattus killing machine!

Well done.

[bantam5s]

Ah ha just what I have always wanted! Total two thumbs up! The QB78 and 13xx got together and had a child! With a good scope for gathering the night time light, and a TKO it would be a rattus killing machine!

Well done.

Thanks.
In my opinion it's everything the 760 should have and could have been, after all the Canadian boy which inspired this build was the inspiration behind the 760.

The world of airguns as we know it today would probably not exist without the 760 having made way for so many crosman airguns, but I do with Crosman could at least have found a way to produce this rifle.
The Canadian factory did after all, and they could have revisited it after the 760 saved them.

[bantam5s]

Turns out that the scope I had on this gun is no good, one direction of adjustment seems to throw the other off.
I threw on a centerpoint I had laying around and out of what I have it likes the crosman premier destroyers.
I expect it will probably like CPHP'S even better when I have a chance to pick some up.

I still don't really like it with a scope especially this longer one,  but it's got me shooting it for now.
If the 5d-ag isn't available by the end of next week I guess I'll go with the wgrs 54.