Slugs for Slayers (and other .357 rifles?)

[Jeremy1982]

Of subject a little but will those interceptor work in out airguns?Are they too hard to make it out the bore?

Chamber easier than the lead slugs and shoot just fine.

Good deal...may have to put them on my list then!

[shamu25]

These are my go to bullets for lighter weights in the Slayer.   NOE molds.  At 358 they chamber easily.  HP is 126 grains and FP is 133 grains.   FP is dead on accurate at 50 yards and HP a bit less accurate. Have not shot them beyond 50.

[Kinetic45^]

Of subject a little but will those interceptor work in out airguns?Are they too hard to make it out the bore?

Chamber easier than the lead slugs and shoot just fine.

Good deal...may have to put them on my list then!

It's an interesting situation...
Plug the 86gr into Chairgun at 1100 FPS and BC of 0.16 with RA4 drag law, 85 yd zero and 150 yard target and the trajectory and FPE are nice for varments/small game up to medium.
Bob has been urging for years for people to use tin instead of lead for large sized aerodynamic but light weight bullets, this effectively does the same thing.
Of course, the 'theory', tested in ballistic gelatin, is that the flutes on the nose have little effect in flight but cause a big expansion cavity in denser tissues for more lethality.
So yes, it's a "trick" bullet.  And sometimes they come and go from use but so were jacketed bullets at one time considered new fangled trick bullets no decent shooter would need or use.

[Kinetic45^]

These are my go to bullets for lighter weights in the Slayer.   NOE molds.  At 358 they chamber easily.  HP is 126 grains and FP is 133 grains.   FP is dead on accurate at 50 yards and HP a bit less accurate. Have not shot them beyond 50.

FYI - NOE is out of stock on this mold at this time (the RG HP one) but I asked Al to make a batch and restock (so I could buy one too, haha) and he said he would be doing that between a month and midyear from now when he catches up - starting from his most popular molds first (remember, his main customers are powder burner shooters, not us pneumatic guys, our molds are important to us but sidelines to him)

[triggertreat]

These are my go to bullets for lighter weights in the Slayer.   NOE molds.  At 358 they chamber easily.  HP is 126 grains and FP is 133 grains.   FP is dead on accurate at 50 yards and HP a bit less accurate. Have not shot them beyond 50.

That's good to know, and looks perfect!  I am wanting a light weight bullet from NOE.  I'll see if I can find that one.  What's the NOE numbers to verify, thanks!

[Kinetic45^]

These are my go to bullets for lighter weights in the Slayer.   NOE molds.  At 358 they chamber easily.  HP is 126 grains and FP is 133 grains.   FP is dead on accurate at 50 yards and HP a bit less accurate. Have not shot them beyond 50.

That's good to know, and looks perfect!  I am wanting a light weight bullet from NOE.  I'll see if I can find that one.  What's the NOE numbers to verify, thanks!

http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/index.php?cPath=35_527
On the NOE website, If you click on a particular 'mold' and you see no 'Add to Cart' button down towards the bottom of the page below the drawing, he's out of stock on that mold.
None of the three options have any stock till he makes new batches

{Sent from my phone, laying in a hospital bed with a broken right collar bone... no shooting for 5 or 6 weeks... arrrgh!}
{I'll be 'pinned' and back home tomorrow, yay}

[triggertreat]

Thanks!  I do remember looking at those a while back.  The quantity column was showing zero back then, too.

[shamu25]

What's up with this Carl.  Broken collar bone!  You are too young for this
  Bummer

[triggertreat]

Dang Carl, that's not good news.  Hope you heal up really fast.

[Kinetic45^]

I let my Texan do it to me...
I was in an odd shooting position and did not have the butt tightly shouldered, had an air pressure (that shall not be named to keep the nanny's on GTA from clutching their pearls) and on the shot the bottle dumped so I got a large for an air rifle recoil that all landed on my collar bone which gave way.

Next I am going to finish my custom stock (similar to Loren's actually, great minds? hahaha) so the AF tank mounted HARD STEEL buttstock goes away.

[screwwork]

Carl,
I am sorry to hear collar bone is broken, I hope you heal up fast and get better soon. 

[Kinetic45^]

What REALLY pi$$es me off is I had a race on the 30th that I'm going to miss now and the $450 track fee is non-refundable.

Update: while commenting here i was also watiching a video on youTube and the nurse came in and said you can not watch that type of stuff here, it upsets people.

Got to go, later

[gnaymola]

Has anyone tried the Cutting Edge Raptor handgun 105 grain or 140 grain bullets? Pretty pricey they are. I'd give them a try for a dedicated bullet for "called in" coyotes,  if they proved to be the most accurate. A box of 50 should last awhile. I would volunteer to give them a go if no one else has, I need my 357 Slayer first, I'm a few months away from ownership.
Gary

[triggertreat]

The Slayer has a decent kick when cranked up.  I hope nothing like that happens.  This is certainly something to note when handling big bores.

[Kinetic45^]

I'm baaaaack (got my phone back from 'patient property' and am being released this morning)

As per the recoil, most centerfire rifles have more than our air rifles, this is a case of a hard edged buttplate not set into the hollow of the shoulder because of where I was trying to shoot from AND I left a gap so that when the bottle dumped and the gun 'rocketed' back even harder than usually normal it caught me totally wrong.  A once in a million that was just a tiny bit of bad luck in my usual good life.
All I can say now is "owww" I'm sore!!!!
And " moving on!"

Note that if you take the poppet spring out of the Texan valve you pick up about 50 FPS - but  then sometimes the airflow does not close it on firing and the entire air charge dumps basically instantly. Generates quite a backward force. Only guys that have modified their rifles to max power would ever have this happen and I'd guess most owners would never do this and it would never happen to them. It's actually rare and I had shot several hundred 327gr shots that day when it happened.  And if I'd been 'shouldered' regularly it would not have hurt me, just had to refill the rifle from totally empty, not 2000 like usual.

[Kinetic45^]

Posting this here for those interested in buying the 36-168J mold after you've seen the testing here..
Note that the bullet has been lightened a couple of grains from the original prototype mold.  Looks stubby in the NOE picture but its not, haha
The NOE says it's 152gr HP with pure lead so will be a few gr lighter with tin alloys
Also, the original nose was a secant profile (straighter / more conical) but the newer nose is more tangential profile but in a shorter nose has no difference or effect in flight.

OK, Al just called me and said the NOE copy of the Accurate 36-168J is up in the store.
This is a limited production run and he does not know when he will be able to run another batch.

Here is the link to the bullet web page.
http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/index.php?cPath=35_590

[shamu25]

Looks like we have another winner Carl. Received my NOE mold.   She drops 150 grains.   287 fpe from my Slayer.   4 of 5 in 1/2 inches at 50 yards.  That's as good as the Accurate.
My new Accurate is not back from Erik yet so  could not compare side by side.   Will test them together when it comes. Thanks for getting this mold into production.
Ray

[triggertreat]

Looking good Ray!  I haven't even cast any of those yet.  I'm focused on my .25 cal currently.

[Kinetic45^]

Good shooting!
Thanks for the report.
Still waiting on my Slayer but my FLEX+ and Pitbull are shooting it the best too.

[shamu25]

Thanks guys.  Sure hope that Slayer comes soon.   I get more impressed every time out