Altaros M24 Airgun .22 Prototype 60 FPE!

[chwillbill68]

Bumping this just cause I'm curious where things ended up. 

  I am glad you bumped it.  I missed this one.  This gun looks awesome.  I would buy one in a heart beat.  Love the traditional rifle look.

Bill C!

[Pellgunfun]

This died down quickly. 

Also to Ondrej:  I'd still like to hear more about the airgun slug you used for those long shots. 

[KnifeMaker]

I wonder if they were able to unveil it at the show.


Knife

[Lani52]

Probably  laying beside the Umarex Hammer somewhere.

Roachcreek

[Altaros]

Because of the heavy workload, there was no time for new videos, so there was nothing new.
But this week added a few other interesting things 

[Altaros]

Since I am tired of being able to insert links directly here, I will write this introduction into more posts to get 20 posts and I could insert a link directly by myself.

[Altaros]

I believe you will understand, because for the next post it is essential to be able to insert photos and other things.

[Altaros]

Currently, I have expanded my collection with a great diagnostic tool, which is a doppler radar labeled LabRadar.
I believe most of you have heard about it, but finding the right information was quite a problem, so I decided to buy it later.

[Altaros]

The fundamental question I asked before buying was whether it is suitable for measuring PCP airguns and their projectiles.

Unfortunately, I didn't find too much information on this answer and that's why I will say it.

I can fully recommend LabRadar to anyone who wants to accurately measure the velocity of the projectile, the consistency of the muzzle velocity, the ballistic coefficient and all that in normal shooting without having to limit yourself or attach something to the barrel that limits the riflescope's visibility, changes the harmonic vibration, and the barrel pulls down.

So is it possible to use LabRadar for the PCP airgun? The answer is Definitely Yes

[Altaros]

a little more data:

Measurement is also possible for .177 caliber, but the measured distance is slightly lower.
Generally I was able to measure BC up to 60-70m for .22 caliber and up to 40m for .177 caliber.  ( the exact speed of the projectile at a given distance of about 10m less )
All measured with a European market LabRadar  unit that has limited power to low. The US, Canada and other unit should be able to measure even larger distances.

To measure you don't need to buy an unnecessarily expensive additional microphone. All you need to do is change the trigger to the doppler triger.

[Altaros]

According to the reviews and Internet discussions, many people have solved the problem of targeting the unit to correctly measure. Apparently these people probably never fired through fixed sights, otherwise I can't explain this.
The unit has a V sighting cutout at the top and a capable eye with this aiming cutout aim the unit exactly at the target where you shoot and there are no problems with the measurement.

So that I do not praise everything so obviously the manufacturer preferred to focus on imperial units, otherwise I do not understand why by default it did not make the unit display decimal places when measured in the metric system and meters.
Displaying only whole units of meters it is very rough and it is a big disadvantage when measuring the airgun. I will write this to the manufacturer to fix the new firmware. Fortunately, the total maximum and minimum speed results are shown by tenths of a meter, even for each shot.
For immediate muzzle speed tracking however, it is preferable to turn on measurements in fps which corresponds to a resolution of about 0.3m and is therefore within the measurement accuracy limits given by the manufacturer.

Another problem was with pairing the unit with the phone via bluetooth. This has not been done yet and I need to try another phone or a higher firmware version (I have a version 1 less than the last one released). This problem is obviously solved by many more users.

[Altaros]

However, the overall assessment, despite these partial problems, is Excellent for me 
This diagnostic device significantly expanded my other options and in one day I measured more essential ballistic data (especially BC) than in my entire life (I do not count the consistency muzzle speed measurement, because it is the most primitive part and during this activity I shot more that one hundred thousand shots).

So much to a minor turn to introduction LadRadar.
It is especially useful to orientate yourself in the next Altaros M24 airgun video, which I will soon uploading.

[KnifeMaker]

Ondrej,;


When you were trying to get info on the L. Radar, you could have simply ask here.   


KnifeMaker/Mike

[Altaros]

I was looking for the information about a year and a half ago and then I did not deal with the purchase until now. At that time I did not find the fully needed information ever on the internet.

When everything goes well with video editing, I'll add another video today

[Altaros]

I bring another video with Altaros M24 airgun. As I have previously suggested this video is to measure the consistency of the muzzle velocity and at the same time it is a proof of the ballistic coefficient that I previously reported for our bullets.



Another, more traditional shooting video, I will upload this weekend.
This video will focus more on showing the accuracy of your entire system because from accuracy is an important whole, not just sub-parts like only rifle or bullets.

[cosmic]

WOW Ondrej , That is great !!!

[rsterne]

Excellent results.... What was your altitude, temperature, humidity and barometric pressure the day of the test?....

Bob

[Altaros]

First I want to apologize for the mistification in the text at the end . There should be no phrase
"idented shape"
but
"identical shape"

thank you Hector for warning :-)


I gave the environment values to the text at the beginning of the video:
temperature : 17,2 C
barometric pressure: 1025hPa   
I previously thought that moisture has meaning, but it does not. The deviation between 0 and 100% is extremely small.

I also did not enter the current barometric pressure in the past, but I keep ChairGun alone calculated barometric pressure  from the altitude, which was a major mistake, as the differences are significant with airgun firing above 300-400 m.

EDIT:
I also forgot to thank you for your positive reviews of this video, so thank you 

[rsterne]

So is the 1025 hPa corrected to sea level, or is that the ambient pressure at your altitude?.... What is that altitude?....

Bob

[Atom]

When will be available your bullet or slug ?