100yds under $400?



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100yds under $400?
« on: January 23, 2019, 06:46:12 AM »
I target shoot at a local range that has targets at 25, 50, 100 and 200 yds.  I'm shooting 100 and 200 yds with my powder burners but am looking for a bit more of a challenge.  I'd like to get started with longer range air but with a budget of $400 or less.  I have scopes and hand pumps already.  I'm leaning towards .22 cal because of the huge selection of pellets and PCP because it won't eat up my scope.  One rifle I'm considering is the Seneca Aspen because I can easily pump up at the range and have lots of control over trigger and power.  But I'm looking at other possibilities.  Thoughts?
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Re: 100yds under $400?
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2019, 07:58:35 AM »
I would give the Ati Nova Vista LIBERTY a hard look before i take that Aspen. at $300 you get alot for your money. it is regulated 40-50 shots and can fill to 4300psi. Alot more powerful than the aspen with little work. not to mention very light weight, adjustable trigger, removable pressure chamber. you will pump to 3600psi (best starting pressure) shoot down to 2600psi then fill it back up with hand pump, Carbon bottle, or compressor. the only plus side to the Aspen is that its self efficient with built in pump. Umarex gauntlet can reach 100 yards with accuracy too. Hatsan flash, gamo urban are some of the best guns under $300. I am sure there are others
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Re: 100yds under $400?
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2019, 08:30:17 AM »
+1 on the liberty. Love my liberty.
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Re: 100yds under $400?
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2019, 08:58:52 AM »
I would give the Ati Nova Vista LIBERTY a hard look before i take that Aspen. at $300 you get alot for your money. it is regulated 40-50 shots and can fill to 4300psi. Alot more powerful than the aspen with little work. not to mention very light weight, adjustable trigger, removable pressure chamber. you will pump to 3600psi (best starting pressure) shoot down to 2600psi then fill it back up with hand pump, Carbon bottle, or compressor. the only plus side to the Aspen is that its self efficient with built in pump. Umarex gauntlet can reach 100 yards with accuracy too. Hatsan flash, gamo urban are some of the best guns under $300. I am sure there are others

Thanks for bringing up the Liberty, I hadn't considered it before.  By "removable pressure chamber" do you mean that the Liberty's air tank can be removed and swapped with a filled one like on the Hatsan or AirForce PCP's?  I see I need to do more homework... 
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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."  Abraham Lincoln

Air:
Benjamin Discovery .22
ATI Vista Liberty .22, Nikon optics

Powder:
Armalite M-15 .223 Wylde 18" competition (on the market)
CZ 455 Varmint .22lr Vortex optics
Savage 93R17 17hmr, Vortex optics
Savage Mk II .22lr BSA 3-9x40

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Re: 100yds under $400?
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2019, 09:07:09 AM »
All, excellent guns.  100 yards is so addictive.  Something that you already know:  it won't stop with one of these.  These are only the beginning when you shoot at 100.  Have fun!
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Re: 100yds under $400?
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2019, 01:49:30 PM »
Stretch, the pressure chamber I r fer to is the Plenum just after the valve. It has an additional vertical mounted rekovable chamber. This can be upgraded to a bigger one for more available CC per shot.
 Also, if you so wish. You can also get rid of the main pressure tube with carbon bottle if you can make an adapter. Which I think is very easy with access to lathe.
 
The regulator is internal adjustable via mini washers. You can also adjust the valve spring tension for more or less power via the semi external wheel between the pressure tube and regulator. This thing is one of the best feature rich air guns I know of.
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Re: 100yds under $400?
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2019, 12:47:56 PM »
Ok, I did it.  I ordered an ATI Nova Vista Liberty in .22 with a wood stock.  $306 with the 10% off coupon.  Here's hoping I get an awesome shooter for 50-100 yds.
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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."  Abraham Lincoln

Air:
Benjamin Discovery .22
ATI Vista Liberty .22, Nikon optics

Powder:
Armalite M-15 .223 Wylde 18" competition (on the market)
CZ 455 Varmint .22lr Vortex optics
Savage 93R17 17hmr, Vortex optics
Savage Mk II .22lr BSA 3-9x40

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Re: 100yds under $400?
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2019, 01:29:19 PM »
Check the thread: Any Us Importers Carrying this gun? Lots of info there.
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Re: 100yds under $400?
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2019, 11:26:16 AM »
Check the thread: Any Us Importers Carrying this gun? Lots of info there.

That is a 43 page thread...most were inquired about availability of the gun.

What is your input on the matter? Any power mod details?
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Re: 100yds under $400?
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2019, 10:58:01 PM »
I've shot a NUAH qualifying target with a $125 XS46U. Now it was not a master target but at least would have made the members list. Just saying the dollar amount does not always make it a good shooter.
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Re: 100yds under $400?
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2019, 08:29:47 PM »
LOVE my Liberty. I bought a second one and I will making two more walnut stocks in the next few months. Sporter style and Bantam Sniper style. Here is my 100 yard 5 shot group in 10 MPH wind.
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Re: 100yds under $400?
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2019, 08:43:20 PM »
LOVE my Liberty. I bought a second one and I will making two more walnut stocks in the next few months. Sporter style and Bantam Sniper style. Here is my 100 yard 5 shot group in 10 MPH wind.

Impressive!  I'm still testing my Liberty.  Not quite as accurate as my Disco at 25 yards, but definitely has more power and potential at longer range.  After I get some spare o-rings I may give your latest set of mods a try.
  • Outer Banks, North Carolina
"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."  Abraham Lincoln

Air:
Benjamin Discovery .22
ATI Vista Liberty .22, Nikon optics

Powder:
Armalite M-15 .223 Wylde 18" competition (on the market)
CZ 455 Varmint .22lr Vortex optics
Savage 93R17 17hmr, Vortex optics
Savage Mk II .22lr BSA 3-9x40

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