It's back!! RWS 34P .177 at Cabelas - $150 (w/4x32AO)[Deal dead (again) @05Feb]



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Re: It's back!! RWS 34P .177 at Cabelas - $150 (w/4x32AO)
« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2019, 07:07:52 PM »
Hit the buy button today...that really is a great deal!  This one goes to my oldest grandson...gonna be one happy young lad!
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Re: It's back!! RWS 34P .177 at Cabelas - $150 (w/4x32AO)
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2019, 11:31:20 PM »
Just ordered one! thanks for the info. What pellets does it like?
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Re: It's back!! RWS 34P .177 at Cabelas - $150 (w/4x32AO)
« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2019, 08:35:50 AM »
Just ordered one! thanks for the info. What pellets does it like?
Christos, I watched a review on youtube by airgun web tv and he said @ 10yds (RWS Super Dome 8.3gr) @ 20yds (Beeman Kodiak 10.2gr).

This might be a good starting point.
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Re: It's back!! RWS 34P .177 at Cabelas - $150 (w/4x32AO)
« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2019, 09:54:19 AM »
Just ordered one! thanks for the info. What pellets does it like?

My Cabelas 34p likes tight fit pellets; CPL, CPHP, FTTS in 4.52mm.; no droop, didn't need the supplied droop mount.
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Re: It's back!! RWS 34P .177 at Cabelas - $150 (w/4x32AO)
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2019, 09:57:20 AM »
At 30 yds mine absolutely stacks Crosman 10.5 dome that come in a box, and RWS Supermag 9.3 wadcutters are about the same.  Mine will shoot dime to nickel sized groups at 30 yds with five or six others as well.
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Re: It's back!! RWS 34P .177 at Cabelas - $150 (w/4x32AO)
« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2019, 10:25:38 AM »
Both my .177 & .22 cal shoot CPHP just as well as RWS Superdomes. 
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Re: It's back!! RWS 34P .177 at Cabelas - $150 (w/4x32AO)
« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2019, 03:51:51 PM »
guys i have crosman silicone chamber oil. is it good for lubing this gun? or i need different one?
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Re: It's back!! RWS 34P .177 at Cabelas - $150 (w/4x32AO)
« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2019, 02:23:06 PM »
tsakula,
RWS sells the chamber oil with a super skinney long applicator tip. This is required to reach the chamber opening. It is important to practice squeezing the bottle to get one drop out of the tip. Owners manual says too much is bad.
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Re: It's back!! RWS 34P .177 at Cabelas - $150 (w/4x32AO)
« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2019, 04:08:49 PM »
guys i have crosman silicone chamber oil. is it good for lubing this gun? or i need different one?

Uuuhh, lemme add something here. Last weekend I used the RWS chamber oil. Dropped three drops into the chamber hole letting them clear the hole between each drop. I cocked the gun so that the piston was all the way down. Let it sit overnight like that (cocked). Next morning I cycled the action a few times (mine has the ability to uncock if you hold the safety in the off position). I then took one shot and it went off like a .22 magnum shell!! Scared the you-know-what out me. I went back inside the house so no one would see me. I contacted Hector Medina as we had been discussing this gun (it's my Diana 34 100 Jahre one) and he promptly wrote back "DO NOT DO THAT AGAIN!!  :-\

I don't know the difference between the silicone oil (which technically should not diesel) and the RWS "chamber oil", but the result for me was having to disassemble the gun for a thorough cleaning and piston seal inspection.

Just a little warning for ya before you do some potential damage.
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Re: It's back!! RWS 34P .177 at Cabelas - $150 (w/4x32AO)
« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2019, 12:47:34 AM »
Are you sure you had loaded a pellet and didn't dry fire it? 
Does the RWS manual recommend 3 drops?  I don't remember what my RWS manuals state, but I read years ago posts from a couple of tuners saying we should not be using the RWS chamber oil, so I have never used it. 

Why leave the gun cocked for so long?  That in itself is a risk.  It can weaken the spring and reduce muzzle velocity.  I never leave mine cocked for more than an hour or 2.  I would put the 34 through the Chrono to make sure it's shooting at the power level it's supposed to.
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Re: It's back!! RWS 34P .177 at Cabelas - $150 (w/4x32AO)
« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2019, 02:12:22 AM »
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Are you sure you had loaded a pellet and didn't dry fire it? 
Does the RWS manual recommend 3 drops?

No, I definitely did not dry fire it. First of all, I know better than to do that. Second, I had fired into a piece of 3/8" plywood and it definitely hit with an almighty THWACK. I waited until well after the police had circled the block a few times and went and checked the plywood. The pellet had gone through it.

My bottle of RWS Air Chamber Oil states to put 2 drops directly into the chamber (yeah, I put three, but I don't think that would have done it).



The email I received from Hector stated the proper procedure for oiling the chamber.

Specifically, he states in the email

 Putting oil into compression chambers is an art.
I won't go into details here, but consider:
1.-  Dianas have the transfer port drilled at an angle. If you put oil into  the gun through the port with the gun standing up, the oil will end up poodling in the hole in the seal.
2.- If the rifle is not actioned a few times before setting out to rest, then the oil has no chance of going to where it needs to go.
3.-If excess oil is not allowed to flow OUT through the muzzle by standing the gun downwards, then the oil will stay where it shouldn't be.


Step number three is the part that I didn't do.

I honestly don't think that letting it sit cocked overnight is an extreme amount of time. Weeks, months, yes, but seriously, overnight? Come on.
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Re: It's back!! RWS 34P .177 at Cabelas - $150 (w/4x32AO)
« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2019, 09:28:13 AM »
Harry, I also remember posts years ago advising against using the chamber oil so I've never used it on my RWS rifles either. 

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Re: It's back!! RWS 34P .177 at Cabelas - $150 (w/4x32AO)
« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2019, 10:27:33 AM »
Those instructions on the oil package (pic above) could be a throwback to when they used leather seals. In that case, it would make sense (something I didn't have when I did what I did). Modern synth seals only need lube behind the seal face.

I honestly don't know what I was thinking. It could be all for the better as I have since stripped the gun and I'm waiting for a new piston seal. The old one had some marks on it that Hector believes are from the initial assembly (not from dieseling). There are three of these marks at different locations around the seal.




BTW, as of at least yesterday, that Cabela's deal is gone for the .177's.
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Re: It's back!! RWS 34P .177 at Cabelas - $150 (w/4x32AO)
« Reply #33 on: January 24, 2019, 12:26:45 PM »

BTW, as of at least yesterday, that Cabela's deal is gone for the .177's.

Still shows $150 today:

https://www.cabelas.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=1979675

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I agree with you, that mark on the seal is probably from the initial installation.  Like you said, you got the entire rifle torn down, cleaned, lubed and once you install the new seal and re-assemble your rifle will shoot nicer than it did before so nothing really lost except a little time and inconvenience  :)

BTW.... I've been resisting that Cabelas deal for a long time but I think I'm finally reaching my breaking point.  Just checked and  the .177 is in fact back in stock.......

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Re: It's back!! RWS 34P .177 at Cabelas - $150 (w/4x32AO)
« Reply #35 on: January 24, 2019, 01:47:38 PM »

BTW, as of at least yesterday, that Cabela's deal is gone for the .177's.

Still shows $150 today:

https://www.cabelas.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=1979675

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I stand corrected.  I was using the link from the beginning of this topic.

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BTW.... I've been resisting that Cabelas deal for a long time but I think I'm finally reaching my breaking point.  Just checked and the .177 is in fact back in stock.......

Jeff

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Re: It's back!! RWS 34P .177 at Cabelas - $150 (w/4x32AO)
« Reply #37 on: January 24, 2019, 03:01:22 PM »
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Are you sure you had loaded a pellet and didn't dry fire it? 
Does the RWS manual recommend 3 drops?

No, I definitely did not dry fire it. First of all, I know better than to do that. Second, I had fired into a piece of 3/8" plywood and it definitely hit with an almighty THWACK. I waited until well after the police had circled the block a few times and went and checked the plywood. The pellet had gone through it.

My bottle of RWS Air Chamber Oil states to put 2 drops directly into the chamber (yeah, I put three, but I don't think that would have done it).



The email I received from Hector stated the proper procedure for oiling the chamber.

Specifically, he states in the email

 Putting oil into compression chambers is an art.
I won't go into details here, but consider:
1.-  Dianas have the transfer port drilled at an angle. If you put oil into  the gun through the port with the gun standing up, the oil will end up poodling in the hole in the seal.
2.- If the rifle is not actioned a few times before setting out to rest, then the oil has no chance of going to where it needs to go.
3.-If excess oil is not allowed to flow OUT through the muzzle by standing the gun downwards, then the oil will stay where it shouldn't be.


Step number three is the part that I didn't do.

I honestly don't think that letting it sit cocked overnight is an extreme amount of time. Weeks, months, yes, but seriously, overnight? Come on.

I am hoping to clarify what you have said since I also ordered the .177 and it is due to arrive today and I also planned to use the RWS oil. Did I understand you to say that using the RWS oil is okay as long as I follow the steps that Hector laid out for you?
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Glad you asked that Tom. I was afraid someone might make that assumption.

Although Hector laid out the procedure, at the end of the email he said "don't do that again!".

In hindsight I don't see a reason to oil them from the port side. Lubing/grease from behind the seal toward and over the spring is fine. Make sure your new gun needs it first though.
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Glad you asked that Tom. I was afraid someone might make that assumption.

Although Hector laid out the procedure, at the end of the email he said "don't do that again!".

In hindsight I don't see a reason to oil them from the port side. Lubing/grease from behind the seal toward and over the spring is fine. Make sure your new gun needs it first though.


I was hoping that you would clarify that for me Dennis. I really didn't need another .177 springer, but for the money it was hard to pass it up.
Thanks again, Tom
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