SIG Sauer ASP20 Gas-Piston Breakbarrel Air Rifle

[Verminstalker]

Had a synthetic .22 on pre-order since Sept. at AGD then the status went to out of stock backordered. I cancelled my order and got a refund. I didn't feel like waiting anymore and I lost the urge to have one right now anyway.

[Jr007]

Not a bad price for the synthetic stock...$280

[UlteriorModem]

Where did you see it for 280?

[RedFeather]

PA has them on sale for $349 with an additional 20% off. (They are such enablers.)

[Bryan Heimann]

Just wish it had a more conventional stock. Not a fan of the bottom cut outs. Oh, and iron sights. Yeah, old school here.

Yes, conventional sporter with iron sights, please!

There is lots of information on the ASP20 over at Hard Air magazine....

https://hardairmagazine.com/news/sig-air-asp20-air-rifle-technology-overview-part-one/

https://hardairmagazine.com/news/sig-air-asp20-air-rifle-technology-overview-part-two/

https://hardairmagazine.com/news/lets-see-how-they-build-the-sig-air-asp20-air-rifle/

I have been talking with Ed Shultz of SIG, and he is certainly proud of their new baby.... Reduced cocking effort compared to FPE is a big plus, IMO....

Bob

Thank you for the links provided, I read them word for word. The common theme throughout the 3 articles and the review by Tom Gaylord and is repeated over, and over, and over again is innovation, ground breaking, revolutionary. We'll see. I want to hear what Mr. Average Joe has to say about it, not some for hire chamber of commerce type. Delivery dates keep being put back, and it looks like the one I'm interested in, the synthetic .22, is just some mythical creature with a who knows when delivery date.   

Yes, holding out on the average dude's comments!  Come on Joe Rhea! Rip this thing a new one... or tell us how much you like it!

Would be awesome if Kenny Kormendy was still around for this one, R.I.P.

[bReTt]

I would like to try one.  I can’t keep up with what I already have.  If one fell in my lap, I’d be tickled to have it.  I hope it is all that it claims to be and more.  Their success is good for the airgunning community. 

[UlteriorModem]

PA has them on sale for $349 with an additional 20% off. (They are such enablers.)

I looked and could not see on their website where to actually order one! All I could do was get on the watch list.

[SteveP-52]

One left in Beech after just looking:

https://www.pyramydair.com/product/sig-sauer-asp20-gas-piston-breakbarrel-air-rifle-beech?m=4597

[EMrider]

I’m looking forward to some user reviews on this new gun.  If it proves to be a winner, there is room in the safe for another springer.
R

[c_m_shooter]

One left in Beech after just looking:

https://www.pyramydair.com/product/sig-sauer-asp20-gas-piston-breakbarrel-air-rifle-beech?m=4597

There was 2 showing when I ordered mine.  We will see how it does when it gets here.

[SteveP-52]

One left in Beech after just looking:

https://www.pyramydair.com/product/sig-sauer-asp20-gas-piston-breakbarrel-air-rifle-beech?m=4597

There was 2 showing when I ordered mine.  We will see how it does when it gets here.

I'm like Rob...I want to see some real world reviews from actual airgun buyers/forum members and not the big guys like AGD or PA so give us the real scoop when you get yours and some shooting time.

[Skillet]

I've got a Cometa Fenix 400 series in .22 caliber that I'll bring to challenge this young upstart!  21+ FPE, nice shot cycle with at least two solid ways to hold it for good accuracy.  And of course the Cometa with the blond walnut stock is actually pretty compared to that nasty little ankle grabber that SIG put at the bottom of the butt stock.  Isn't that what that hooked butt stock is about? Grabbing an ankle in a scuffle?  Maybe I've been watching too many episodes of "Forged In Fire."  SIG will never give the ASP 20 a stock that classic gun lovers like.  In time somebody will be carving a more classic stock for this excellent action that will make us all drool.  I hope SIG keeps building high quality air rifles and provides us in the future with a range of various stock designs.

[Frankly]

I use a butt hook stock on my PRS rifle. It allows you multiple height adjustments off a bag or fist, which is advantageous. I'm pretty clumsy but never caught it on anything. 

I'd love to see airguns in more modern tactical style stocks like a Manners. Or a beautiful walnut with a Schnabel foreend and elegant butt. Or AR-compatible designs for PCPs. What's boring to me are the monotonous ambidextrous Beech CAM stocks we get. 

[rsterne]

An AR style Springer might be interesting....

Bob

[SteveP-52]

An AR style Springer might be interesting....

Bob

Very likely not what you had in mind as the stock isn't at all adjustable, but break barrel, spring piston Hatsan Edge .25 cal in a Webley Spector tactical stock:

[rsterne]

I'm not really in love with the "tactical" look, personally.... but I can see the attraction in using AR grips and buttstocks for the interchangeability and ease of customizing to your taste.... All is takes is a trigger group machined to accept them.... and extend the main compression tube aft (with a rail for LoP adjustment) to slide the stock over it....

Bob

[mbouchpcp]

Chronograph Results

Received my .22 rifle last week.  Fifty pellets down range over Friday and Saturday.  Another 50 fired yesterday morning followed by chronograph work in the late afternoon.

Four comments before showing chrony results.  First, cocking effort is smooth and not too heavy.  I'm doing it with one arm in spite of the fact that I'm old and weak.  Kudos to SIG.

Second, the trigger IMHO does not live up to the "Matchlite" name. The pad of my trigger finger hurts more than my arm.  In my opinion the trigger – although it has a very smooth second stage and breaks consistently and crisply – is a major deficiency because of the great effort required to get it to break. I'm hoping that the pull required will substantially lighten up as the rifle gets broken in. By way of comparison my RWS M54, HW90, LGV and LGU all had triggers that IMHO required a much lighter pull out of the box.

Third, barrel internal diameter is between .215 and .216 thousandths of an inch based upon the budget gage pins that I have.  With but one exception, I needed to use a pellet seater to get pellets to fit into the breech.

Forth, dime sized five shot groups at 25 yards have been the exception rather than the rule so far as I'm still learning how to hold the rifle, fight the trigger, and use pellets (JSB Jumbo Heavy) that may not be the best for this rifle.

My bottom line – with just over 200 pellets down the barrel – is that this can be a really good rifle if effort required to get the trigger to break diminishes through use or a trigger job (which according to SIG SAUER customer service will void the warranty). 

Note that my data differs from that published by Tom Gaylord earlier today. I'm not sure why the difference unless it has to do with chronographs involved or the fact that the rifle has not been broken in yet.  I used a MagnetoSpeed V3 with a recent software update. The testing was conducted indoors at a physical elevation of 1400 feet.  The temperature was in the high 50s (F) or low 60s (F).

JSB Jumbo RS 13.43 gr.
Maximum   853
Minimum   845
Average   849
SD           3.1
Ft/lbs   21.5

H&N Sniper Light 14.04 gr.
853
833
837
8.1
21.85

JSB Jumbo Express 14.35 gr.
832
824
827
2.4
21.8

JSB Jumbo 15.89 gr.
787
775
780
3.6
21.47

H&N Sniper Magnum 17.90
735
722
728
4.8
21.07

JSB Jumbo Heavy 18.13
722
709
717
4.5
20.7

H&N Baracuda Match 21.14 gr.
664
650
655
4.6
20.14

JSB Jumbo Monster 25.39
586
574
580
3.3
18.97

Best wishes.

The other Mark B.

PS - Yes, I adjusted trigger pull as low as it would go.

[Bryan Heimann]

Have you tried to adjust the trigger?

[wimpanzee]

My understanding is that the adjustment for pull weight has a hood over it to limit how far it can travel. It might be possible to adjust or remove this hood (certainly voiding the warranty).

The trigger on mine was too heavy, too, until I learned you had to push in the phillips screw to turn it and make the adjustment. Then it did lighten considerably, and was no longer the maker of sore finger tips. That said, I haven't done any extended shooting yet, due to travel, work, and early evenings. Only about 20 shots off the back porch to see if it was sighted in, and a couple shots at some spinners for fun.

[SSG Grampo]

Tom Gaylord covered this in today's air gun blog on PA.