Any US importers carrying this gun?

[Madd Hatter]

Piano tuner ?

[USAFANG6799]

Piano tuner ?

Yea specifically to “Rock and Roll”. The slugs hit like a rock and you prey roll over dead. 

[Orion]

Piano tuner ?

Yea specifically to “Rock and Roll”. The slugs hit like a rock and you prey roll over dead. 

Lol, this was really funny!

[USAFANG6799]

Piano tuner ?

Yea specifically to “Rock and Roll”. The slugs hit like a rock and you prey roll over dead. 

Lol, this was really funny!

I was hoping somebody besides me thought it was funny 😁

[avator]

Piano tuner ?

Yea specifically to “Rock and Roll”. The slugs hit like a rock and you prey roll over dead. 

Lol, this was really funny!

I was hoping somebody besides me thought it was funny 😁

Highlight of my day.... so far.

[Wayne52]

For anyone that hasn't tried Stephens slugs in the .22 Freedom's they're a heck of a good slug in these guns, accurate and they work fantastic in the magazine.  That was one thing that I was unsure of when I first went out shooting them was whether or not the slugs would stay in the mags good, Stephen did post that he had good luck with them in the mags and my experience is the same.

[Orion]

For anyone that hasn't tried Stephens slugs in the .22 Freedom's they're a heck of a good slug in these guns, accurate and they work fantastic in the magazine.  That was one thing that I was unsure of when I first went out shooting them was whether or not the slugs would stay in the mags good, Stephen did post that he had good luck with them in the mags and my experience is the same.

Wayne, I was shooting with them on the mags and no problem at all so far

[wll2506]

I have been lurking on this thread for a while, while seeing every video I could on this gun. I have a Nova Freedom parts gun that is now working like a champ, has more power and accuracy than a gun at this price point should have for sure.

Because of this and all the things I have seen about the Liberty I going to buy 2 of them on Tuesday !

Yes, my airgun collection is getting out of hand, so I do need to get rid of the guns that aren't cutting the mustard .... Some of my general barrel cockers need to hit the road as well as a few others. I think I'll be getting the standard plastic stock version, just because I really don't need fancy-schmancy on a hunting gun, as well as $50.00 cheaper per gun. And when you are buying two that ads up, even with the "HardAirMagazine" discount.

I have been planning this for a little while, so I already have the cases and the scopes and stuff. I'm just guessing but I think JSB Jumbo Heavies will work fine in both guns. Both guns will be tuned pretty much the same, shooting the JSB heavies in the 850+ fps area for maybe 35-40 shots or so .. I will have to see !

Not to hijack a Liberty thread, but the Freedom is a darn good gun and if the Liberty is anything like the Freedom ... I'll be very happy.

You guys keep posting about your experiences with the Liberty, and please excuse my brief interruption ;-  )

wll

[Madd Hatter]

The Liberty can be tuned more than the freedom. The freedom has a hammer spring adj, the liberty has to have the hammer spring adj using shims but, it has an adj reg which can be adj without disassembling the rifle. You just need to vent all of the pressure to adj it. Some will say that you can turn the reg pressure up with it pressurized but I just vent all of the pressure before I make a reg change. Remember, it doesn't have a pmp which I'm sure you already know and hand pumping while can be done is a lot of work as the reservoir is about 4 times larger than the freedom.

[wll2506]

The Liberty can be tuned more than the freedom. The freedom has a hammer spring adj, the liberty has to have the hammer spring adj using shims but, it has an adj reg which can be adj without disassembling the rifle. You just need to vent all of the pressure to adj it. Some will say that you can turn the reg pressure up with it pressurized but I just vent all of the pressure before I make a reg change. Remember, it doesn't have a pmp which I'm sure you already know and hand pumping while can be done is a lot of work as the reservoir is about 4 times larger than the freedom.

I plan on keeping pressure to about 3800 psi and setting the regulator to about 2400 psi, hoping I get about 850psi + with JSB Heavies ? I will open the barrel port to .173+ also, if I don’t get at least 25 - 30 shots I will fill to a higher pressure till I get it.

I wonder how many pumps it takes to go from about 2500 psi to 3600 psi on a Chinese pump ?

wll

[huklbery]

The Liberty can be tuned more than the freedom. The freedom has a hammer spring adj, the liberty has to have the hammer spring adj using shims but, it has an adj reg which can be adj without disassembling the rifle. You just need to vent all of the pressure to adj it. Some will say that you can turn the reg pressure up with it pressurized but I just vent all of the pressure before I make a reg change. Remember, it doesn't have a pmp which I'm sure you already know and hand pumping while can be done is a lot of work as the reservoir is about 4 times larger than the freedom.

I plan on keeping pressure to about 3800 psi and setting the regulator to about 2400 psi, hoping I get about 850psi + with JSB Heavies ? I will open the barrel port to .173+ also, if I don’t get at least 25 - 30 shots I will fill to a higher pressure till I get it.

This configuration simply change to reg (1/4 turn) and .100 washers behind hammer spring jumped the stock 26ftlbs to the sweet JSB 18.1 900 fps 30ftlbs


I wonder how many pumps it takes to go from about 2500 psi to 3600 psi on a Chinese pump ?

wll

The port I drilled to .186 but it only gave me a 1-2ftlb boost.  I would concentrate on hammer spring & upping the reg.  Not to be ignored simply swapping the set screw and cap screw position behind the trigger blade went from 3.5lb to 2.25lb pull brilliant hunting carry vs Benchrest configuration.   

[Madd Hatter]

The Liberty can be tuned more than the freedom. The freedom has a hammer spring adj, the liberty has to have the hammer spring adj using shims but, it has an adj reg which can be adj without disassembling the rifle. You just need to vent all of the pressure to adj it. Some will say that you can turn the reg pressure up with it pressurized but I just vent all of the pressure before I make a reg change. Remember, it doesn't have a pmp which I'm sure you already know and hand pumping while can be done is a lot of work as the reservoir is about 4 times larger than the freedom.

I plan on keeping pressure to about 3800 psi and setting the regulator to about 2400 psi, hoping I get about 850psi + with JSB Heavies ? I will open the barrel port to .173+ also, if I don’t get at least 25 - 30 shots I will fill to a higher pressure till I get it.

I wonder how many pumps it takes to go from about 2500 psi to 3600 psi on a Chinese pump ?

wll

Bill Rohlom, I believe that's his name, is prototyping a larger penum for these guns which actually should them more efficient. I believe Stephen is getting around 60 to 70 shot on a fill from around 3600 psi with the reg turned up 1/4 turn, TP drilled out to 3/16.

[Wayne52]

The max that I'll drill a TP port to is 80% of the bore, there's really no need for more IMO.

[wll2506]

The Liberty can be tuned more than the freedom. The freedom has a hammer spring adj, the liberty has to have the hammer spring adj using shims but, it has an adj reg which can be adj without disassembling the rifle. You just need to vent all of the pressure to adj it. Some will say that you can turn the reg pressure up with it pressurized but I just vent all of the pressure before I make a reg change. Remember, it doesn't have a pmp which I'm sure you already know and hand pumping while can be done is a lot of work as the reservoir is about 4 times larger than the freedom.

I plan on keeping pressure to about 3800 psi and setting the regulator to about 2400 psi, hoping I get about 850psi + with JSB Heavies ? I will open the barrel port to .173+ also, if I don’t get at least 25 - 30 shots I will fill to a higher pressure till I get it.

This configuration simply change to reg (1/4 turn) and .100 washers behind hammer spring jumped the stock 26ftlbs to the sweet JSB 18.1 900 fps 30ftlbs


I wonder how many pumps it takes to go from about 2500 psi to 3600 psi on a Chinese pump ?

wll

The port I drilled to .186 but it only gave me a 1-2ftlb boost.  I would concentrate on hammer spring & upping the reg.  Not to be ignored simply swapping the set screw and cap screw position behind the trigger blade went from 3.5lb to 2.25lb pull brilliant hunting carry vs Benchrest configuration.   

That is exactly what I'm talking about  :-) I would love that kind of speed with that pellet !!!!

wll

[Back_Roads]

 I spent the weekend sending 100 of Stephans 26.1 gr slugs down range with my .22 Liberty at 650-660 fps, topped off the gun once. I kind of like the slower speed I can watch the slug gracefully fly to its mark.
 I was thinking of upping the power, but the slugs lose very little down range energy I may just keep it where it is at, a low speed back yard slug gun, with the option to send pellets as fast as they can stay stable.

[AVS Stephen]

I spent the weekend sending 100 of Stephans 26.1 gr slugs down range with my .22 Liberty at 650-660 fps, topped off the gun once. I kind of like the slower speed I can watch the slug gracefully fly to its mark.
 I was thinking of upping the power, but the slugs lose very little down range energy I may just keep it where it is at, a low speed back yard slug gun, with the option to send pellets as fast as they can stay stable.

Wow, I wouldn't think they would be OK at 660fps but that is good to hear. My next range day testing I will try various velocities @ 100 yards to see if they can do better.

Thanks

[USAFANG6799]

I spent the weekend sending 100 of Stephans 26.1 gr slugs down range with my .22 Liberty at 650-660 fps, topped off the gun once. I kind of like the slower speed I can watch the slug gracefully fly to its mark.
 I was thinking of upping the power, but the slugs lose very little down range energy I may just keep it where it is at, a low speed back yard slug gun, with
the option to send pellets as fast as they can stay stable.

Wow, I wouldn't think they would be OK at 660fps but that is good to hear. My next range day testing I will try various velocities @ 100 yards to see if they can do better.

Thanks

Stephen- do you think your Liberty will enable you to find the max and minimum for all the weights of your slugs? It sounds like a lot of testing to do.
Time to ask for volunteers?

[Madd Hatter]

It would depend on the tune of the Liberty and the individual rifle. I will be testing the 4 different weights Stephen sells in my Liberty and will post the results. It may end up being a little while as the temperature is in the high 90s and going into the triple digits starting next week for the next 3 months.

[AVS Stephen]

Yes, I will find time to test all 4 weights. Since I have an easy to adjust hammer spring adjuster it should not be too bad to do. I will also test shooting the slugs into water jugs to see how they expand. Maybe even try some penetration tests.

I'll post a video as soon as the testing is complete.

Robert, I'm looking forward to see your results. Stay cool. I hate shooting when the weather is above 90. It takes me a little to get used to the hot weather. I prefer 30 degrees Fahrenheit over 90.

[Madd Hatter]

Yes, I will find time to test all 4 weights. Since I have an easy to adjust hammer spring adjuster it should not be too bad to do. I will also test shooting the slugs into water jugs to see how they expand. Maybe even try some penetration tests.

I'll post a video as soon as the testing is complete.

Robert, I'm looking forward to see your results. Stay cool. I hate shooting when the weather is above 90. It takes me a little to get used to the hot weather. I prefer 30 degrees Fahrenheit over 90.

Remember, women are from Venus and men are from Mars and what are the temps like on those planets? lol