Any US importers carrying this gun?

[SoCalZac]

I have finally gotten a chance to shoot again today. I got 90 shots on high power from 3700 to 1900 psi. I am thrilled with that!! I haven’t cleaned the barrel yet and only have maybe 140-150 shots through it total.  Here’s my 10 shot groups at fifty yards. The best one is with H&N crow mags. Eliminate the one flyer and it was 5/8” ctc

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I have finally gotten a chance to shoot again today. I got 90 shots on high power from 3700 to 1900 psi. I am thrilled with that!! I haven’t cleaned the barrel yet and only have maybe 140-150 shots through it total.  Here’s my 10 shot groups at fifty yards. The best one is with H&N crow mags. Eliminate the one flyer and it was 5/8” ctc

Wow, nice results.  Especially like that you got 90 shots.  Wonder how many you'd get at low power?  Did you modify anything on the rifle?  Is this the wood or plastic stock?

[SoCalZac]

I haven’t modified anything except take the trigger out and swap the two back screws. I have the wood stock. I probably could have gotten another four or five shots before it fell off the regulator. I didn’t chrony but I kind of wish I would of at least did the first 10 and last 10. Oh well next time.

[Gbcool1]

I haven’t posted in this thread for awhile because I was watching all the posts about mods and tuning. Well, I haven’t done any of those and i’m not sure that I will, given what happened yesterday.

Out at the range again and we hung an empty 12 gram CO2 cylinder at 60 yards. I was repeatedly hitting it (and leaving some deep dents) with the JSB 15.89 pellets. As a final shot, I shot it off of the string.

This rifle really makes me look good! Hehe.

No other issues to report as of yet. No leaks, no POI shifts, and the Gauntlet mags work just fine.

Please excuse me while I go try to wipe the smile off my face... again. 

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Boy is it hard to decide what rifle to buy when you can't see it in person!

I just looked at a brand new synthetic stock Marauder in .22.  I wasn't able to shoot it, but I did handle it, cock and dry fire it.  I've got to say it seems much better made than what few Chinese rifles I've seen.  The plastic stock felt solid, the bolt worked smoothly, all the machining seemed well done.  It's nice to see an American made product that looks this good.  I can get one for about $100 more than a Liberty, but the Liberty's regulator is a big attraction to me.  My needs are like @thebanker4 , long(ish) range target shooting.  I'd really like to get 60+ shots (or even 100+) shots out of a single fill.  Has anyone had both a Marauder and a Liberty?  How do they compare? 

[tracker1955]

I own both in 22cal, before putting a lightweight air tube and Huma on my Synrod the two rifles weighed about the same except my Liberty is wood stocked. To get what the Liberty offers at $329 required adding $120 to the cost of my Synrod ( a Huma Reg ) and the Liberty is still more powerful with its regulator, has a smooth side lever which I love by the way, and adds a power adjuster. My Synrod is still quieter than my Liberty but I find the liberty to be very back yard friendly. The trigger pull is much lighter on my Synrod with the lawyer spring removed than the Liberty's, but the Liberty's action breaks cleaner with less creep than my Synrod. I will say this however, I find myself reaching for the Liberty when I wanna shoot more so than I do the Synrod or my Disco.

[AVS Stephen]

I haven’t posted in this thread for awhile because I was watching all the posts about mods and tuning. Well, I haven’t done any of those and i’m not sure that I will, given what happened yesterday.

Out at the range again and we hung an empty 12 gram CO2 cylinder at 60 yards. I was repeatedly hitting it (and leaving some deep dents) with the JSB 15.89 pellets. As a final shot, I shot it off of the string.

This rifle really makes me look good! Hehe.

No other issues to report as of yet. No leaks, no POI shifts, and the Gauntlet mags work just fine.

Please excuse me while I go try to wipe the smile off my face... again. 

Hey Greg, it makes me happy to hear your awesome experience with this gun. As I mentioned in my review, this is, at least to me, the first REAL $300 PCP air gun that is ready to go right out of the box. No need to do any modifications. Out of the box 900fps with an 18grain, 80 to 90 shots regulated. This is the gun that all other $300 to $500 pcps will be measured against. Now all the other manufacturer s will have to up there game if they want to sell PCP airguns.

[kzz1kaw]

I haven’t posted in this thread for awhile because I was watching all the posts about mods and tuning. Well, I haven’t done any of those and i’m not sure that I will, given what happened yesterday.

Out at the range again and we hung an empty 12 gram CO2 cylinder at 60 yards. I was repeatedly hitting it (and leaving some deep dents) with the JSB 15.89 pellets. As a final shot, I shot it off of the string.

This rifle really makes me look good! Hehe.

No other issues to report as of yet. No leaks, no POI shifts, and the Gauntlet mags work just fine.

Please excuse me while I go try to wipe the smile off my face... again. 

Hey Greg, it makes me happy to hear your awesome experience with this gun. As I mentioned in my review, this is, at least to me, the first REAL $300 PCP air gun that is ready to go right out of the box. No need to do any modifications. Out of the box 900fps with an 18grain, 80 to 90 shots regulated. This is the gun that all other $300 to $500 pcps will be measured against. Now all the other manufacturer s will have to up there game if they want to sell PCP airguns.

Totally agree👍🏾 Now if I can get a Bullpup in the same price range it will make the high end manufacturers take notice😎

[AVS Stephen]

Hey Ken, if they make a .25 Cal and a bullpup as good as the .22 other manufacturer s will take notice.

[Gbcool1]

I haven’t posted in this thread for awhile because I was watching all the posts about mods and tuning. Well, I haven’t done any of those and i’m not sure that I will, given what happened yesterday.

Out at the range again and we hung an empty 12 gram CO2 cylinder at 60 yards. I was repeatedly hitting it (and leaving some deep dents) with the JSB 15.89 pellets. As a final shot, I shot it off of the string.

This rifle really makes me look good! Hehe.

No other issues to report as of yet. No leaks, no POI shifts, and the Gauntlet mags work just fine.

Please excuse me while I go try to wipe the smile off my face... again. 

Hey Greg, it makes me happy to hear your awesome experience with this gun. As I mentioned in my review, this is, at least to me, the first REAL $300 PCP air gun that is ready to go right out of the box. No need to do any modifications. Out of the box 900fps with an 18grain, 80 to 90 shots regulated. This is the gun that all other $300 to $500 pcps will be measured against. Now all the other manufacturer s will have to up there game if they want to sell PCP airguns.

Thanks, Stephen! And I’ve said it before, but a .25 cal would be awesome. However, I scooped up a Umarex 20% off promo during Black Friday week and pre-ordered the Gauntlet in .25 and it’s a good shooter as well. Guess I got lucky on my out of box experience with my first two PCP rifles. BTW, I’ve watched a couple of your videos and appreciate the content. Has been helpful to me.

Regards,

Greg

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I own both in 22cal, before putting a lightweight air tube and Huma on my Synrod the two rifles weighed about the same except my Liberty is wood stocked. To get what the Liberty offers at $329 required adding $120 to the cost of my Synrod ( a Huma Reg ) and the Liberty is still more powerful with its regulator, has a smooth side lever which I love by the way, and adds a power adjuster. My Synrod is still quieter than my Liberty but I find the liberty to be very back yard friendly. The trigger pull is much lighter on my Synrod with the lawyer spring removed than the Liberty's, but the Liberty's action breaks cleaner with less creep than my Synrod. I will say this however, I find myself reaching for the Liberty when I wanna shoot more so than I do the Synrod or my Disco.

Thanks, your insights are very helpful.  I found the trigger on this new Synrod to be just fine.  Very long first stage and kind of long 2nd stage, but breaks at, I'd guess, maybe 1.5 - 2 lbs.  Longer than I'd want for target shooting but very reasonable for an out of the box air rifle.  I wonder if this one didn't get the "lawyer" spring?

[tracker1955]

That's about right with the lawyer spring, mines now in ounces not pounds, just to much creep in 2nd stage. I tried to remove the creep but the rifle became unsafe as not enough sear was left holding the hammer and you could make it fire if bumped hard.

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Does anyone know of any current promo codes for ATI?  SHOT19 no longer works.

[Letum]

Good afternoon all

Firstly let me start by I think the US guys have a different breed of Liberty! Looks the same (inside and out), shoots just as accurate, however does around 880 fps with 14.35 gr which drops to around 760fps on the 18.21gr.

I decided to shim the hammerspring, upon opening I noted that there are no shims as standard, I added one and the rifle is running 870fps with 15.89gr JSB's.

I have about a tin left and after these I plan on upping the power a bit more.

Does anyone have experience with the JSB Monster 25.39gr pellets in general and this rifle specifically? What speed do they run at optimally and what speed should I aim for, 850fps again?

[nervoustrigger]

Does anyone have experience with the JSB Monster 25.39gr pellets in general and this rifle specifically? What speed do they run at optimally and what speed should I aim for, 850fps again?

I don't have a Liberty but here's my initial experience with the new .22 Monsters
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=136347

Bottom line, there is no reason that a pellet needs to go "fast" (e.g. over 800fps) to be accurate.  However it is true that domed pellets tend to achieve an optimal ballistic coefficient with muzzle speeds in the range of 800fps - 900fps so that's a useful practical reason to want the velocity a bit higher.  It also eases things with respect to cant error and pellet drop on shots at longer distances, say, beyond 50-75 yards.

[FuzzyGrub]

In an effort to expand my air gun horizons, past my generally crosman base, I ordered a 22 woody yesterday.  Tweeking value oriented PCPs seems to be in my blood. 

I read most of this thread and watched a few videos, including "Bankers" ports mod one.  Also, spent some time with the schematic.  Thx to all that have provided info.

It looks to me, that the plenum is mostly within that drop down tube with gauge.  Has anyone measured the ID and depth of that? or otherwise tried to calculate the plenum volume?

I see allot of discussion on shimming and adding more preload for a power increase.  Has anyone tried a heavier spring with zero preload for higher efficiency?   With side lever cocking, would expect it can handle some heavier springs.

From the schematic, it looks like the bolt probe has the sealing o-ring on it vs the barrel.  If that is correct, how has that been holding up pushing through the mags? 

Anyway, just some quick questions while I go through the waiting process. 

[Orion]

dang, I'm late to this post. I need to read 46 pages.... it will take me a while but this rifle has my attention.

[Chester]

I have a thousand rounds plus through my 22 and have had no problems with the bolt orings. Glad to see someone address improving efficiency as well as power. I only added 2 small shims to mine and am averaging 875 fps with 18.1 JSB's which is about perfect for me with 30 FPE. The side cocking lever could probably handle a stiffer spring. Good idea.

[Letum]

Does anyone have experience with the JSB Monster 25.39gr pellets in general and this rifle specifically? What speed do they run at optimally and what speed should I aim for, 850fps again?

I don't have a Liberty but here's my initial experience with the new .22 Monsters
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=136347

Bottom line, there is no reason that a pellet needs to go "fast" (e.g. over 800fps) to be accurate.  However it is true that domed pellets tend to achieve an optimal ballistic coefficient with muzzle speeds in the range of 800fps - 900fps so that's a useful practical reason to want the velocity a bit higher.  It also eases things with respect to cant error and pellet drop on shots at longer distances, say, beyond 50-75 yards.

Do you by any chance have some history with the H&N Piledriver? I see there are very mixed reviews on youtube, specifically regarding quality control.

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I have a thousand rounds plus through my 22 and have had no problems with the bolt orings. Glad to see someone address improving efficiency as well as power. I only added 2 small shims to mine and am averaging 875 fps with 18.1 JSB's which is about perfect for me with 30 FPE. The side cocking lever could probably handle a stiffer spring. Good idea.

How many shots per fill are you getting?