Any one ever heard of the Dynamic PCP air rifle?

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

I reported in the other thread that my DAR lost about 435 psi overnight. I just check it again and there’s no air in the tube at all!  It’s sitting on 0, so something just recently gave out!  I’ll be giving them a call later to see what they suggest, but it’s pretty apparent something has failed in my rifle. 

[BigMike1]

I reported in the other thread that my DAR lost about 435 psi overnight. I just check it again and there’s no air in the tube at all!  It’s sitting on 0, so something just recently gave out!  I’ll be giving them a call later to see what they suggest, but it’s pretty apparent something has failed in my rifle.

Paul Mine did the same thing!  On Mine one of the regulator orings failed.. They seemed to small so i installed a little larger oring and have had no trouble sense!
MC Master car Part # 1185N105 is the ones i used

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

Thanks Mike!  What's odd is I just refilled it (without making any changes) and it's holding air!  I did notice the fill port cover was lifted a bit from the fully seated position, so I thought maybe something was up with the fill port.  I will keep an eye on it and see.  Funny thing was, I keep my air rifles in my office and I was in my office when this apparently happened and I didn't hear a thing.  You'd think an air tube discharging approximately 2600 psi of air that quickly would have made some noise!

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

Okay, here are pictures of the DAR, SPA, Mrod and Prod magazines next to one another.  I have not taken measurements yet, but I did try to slide my .22 Mrod mag into the DAR since it was the same width.  It was a NO-GO!  First, the SPA and DAR mags feed from the left side of the breech, the Mrod and Prod feed from the right.  This wouldn't have been a big deal if the Mrod mag had lined up and snapped in place, but it doesn't.  Oh well, looks like we are at the mercy of Dynamic/Aim Sports to get a good supply of mags for us!  I just hope they don't try to gouge us like Gamo does on the Urban mags!

[BigMike1]

Thanks Mike!  What's odd is I just refilled it (without making any changes) and it's holding air!  I did notice the fill port cover was lifted a bit from the fully seated position, so I thought maybe something was up with the fill port.  I will keep an eye on it and see.  Funny thing was, I keep my air rifles in my office and I was in my office when this apparently happened and I didn't hear a thing.  You think an air tube discharging approximately 2600 psi of air that quickly would have made some sound!

No kidding!  Mine did it in the night.. When i tryed to fill it in th AM it just leaked out the bleed hole in the air tube:(  when i pulled it apart the reg oring was pushed out of the groove so i replaced it with the spares that came with the gun the reg was slid in too easy so i went with the larger orings and no more problem
   

[deerflyguy]

Okay, here are pictures of the DAR, SPA, Mrod and Prod magazines next to one another.  I have not taken measurements yet, but I did try to slide my .22 Mrod mag into the DAR since it was the same width.  It was a NO-GO!  First, the SPA and DAR mags feed from the left side of the breech, the Mrod and Prod feed from the right.  This wouldn't have been a big deal if the Mrod mag had lined up and snapped in place, but it doesn't.  Oh well, looks like we are at the mercy of Dynamic/Aim Sports to get a good supply of mags for us!  I just hope they don't try to gouge us like Gamo does on the Urban mags!

The sales rep that I spoke with told me that the mags should sell in the range of what we pay for Marauder/Gauntlet mags. If so, that would be great.
Regarding the Gamo Gouge, back before they bought out BSA, those Urban/BSA/Coyote mags were selling for $15-$20 each at PA. Almost overnight, nothing having been changed in quality, the price trippled!!! That's what you call gouging!

[tracker1955]

Give this guy an email walter@aimsportsinc.com  He's who I have been communicating with by mail.

[deerflyguy]

I spoke again this afternoon with aimsportinc about this gun.
Was told that they are working to put up a DAR website which will offer parts and accessories for the DAR series.
Mags for all calibers are shipping today from the manufacturer and will be here soon.
Mags will be sold by Sportsman's Guide, currently the exclusive seller of the DAR Dynamic product line.

Regulators are different for each gun by caliber.
Regulated pressures are different by caliber (info coming)

For their testing, they used Weaver rings to mount their scopes.
Weaver series dovetail Part # 49213 & Part # 49212

That's all I have for now.

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

Awesome news Bill!  Can’t wait to see the new website and order some more magazines. You dint happen to mention the discrepancy in the magazines pictured in the manual and the actual magazines that come with the rifle did you???  The mags pictured in the manual sure look like 10 round Marauder/Gauntlet mags to me!

[Rick67]

What kind of rings are you guys using to scope your guns?
I just received the 10mm rings that I special ordered  for mine, but they don't work either? I can't tighten them up? Obviously, the gun cannot be shot accurately unless it is scoped, so i'm up a tree? I don't want to rig some sort of sloppy fix, using shims, and would much prefer to use rings that fit right out of the box.

~ deerflyguy

Bill, had the same problem with a particular rail---no rings would fit tight, so I put a tiny drift pin along one of the grooves and it worked! You could use any pin, even a sewing or a toothpick, lol! Lol but I am not kidding, lol again!

[Wayne52]

Well I got mine today and I'm impressed with the power I was getting from it, I was using 34.5 grain pellets and it's getting 15 good regged shots but I think the extra 5 rounds on the second clip will all be good hunting shots.  I also took some pics of it as well.  The very first shot was 890 fps and that's the most I've gotten from it, I think the reg is goofy on it cause while I was editing photo's of it I heard it let loose of it's air so it's definitely got to come apart.  I might do that this evening. 

                                       

                                       

                                       

                                       

Here's a 20 shot string to show what it's doing right now

1.   825.3fps  52.1fpe     11. 807.2fps  49.9fpe
2.   823.5fps  51.9fpe     12  814.0fps  50.7fpe
3.   821.7fps  51.7fpe     13. 814.1fps  50.7fpe
4.   815.6fps  50.9fpe     14. 816.2fps  51.0fpe
5.   817.2fps  51.1fpe     15. 806.5fps  49.8fpe
6.   813.7fps  50.7fpe     16. 798.8fps  48.8fpe
7.   822.5fps  51.8fpe     17. 784.4fps  47.1fpe
8.   810.8fps  50.3fpe     18. 785.4fps  47.2fpe
9.   817.0fps  51.1fpe     19. 775.6fps  46.0fpe
10. 825.2fps  52.1fpe     20. 771.4fps  45.5fpe

Not too shabby for out of the box, now I need to take it apart and give it some TLC I think I'm gonna like this gun.  Much lighter than my Mrod and good power.

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

Wayne, take some pictures as you tear it down, I may have to do the same. Mine dumped all its air on me this morning, but after refilling it’s held air all day! It sure is odd.

[Wayne52]

Basically I think these guns have been sitting for quite a while, I'm not so sure these are SPA cause the fill probe is smaller in diameter then my SPA M16, and all my other SPA's, the clips don't have a magnet on them either like the more inexpensive SPA's.  I think this could easily be a 60fpe gun without the regulator in it but you probably wouldn't want to start your string any higher than 2800psi. I see that they do use a barrel connector on these like they do with the SPA M16 which is good cause you don't need to drill a port in the barrel it's in the connector.  I'll probably check the size of the port when I have it out, if it's not .171 I'll eventually make it so.

[rsterne]

I would be very interested in the plenum volume in the .25 cal.... When you pull it apart, please measure it up....

Bob

[Wayne52]

Heck Bob I done got it back together already, it's holding air good so far, not really sure what caused it to dump the air like it did but I did find a little debris down in the poppet area, it's a monoblock so it might be kinda tricky measuring the plenum

[Wayne52]

I spoke again this afternoon with aimsportinc about this gun.
Was told that they are working to put up a DAR website which will offer parts and accessories for the DAR series.
Mags for all calibers are shipping today from the manufacturer and will be here soon.
Mags will be sold by Sportsman's Guide, currently the exclusive seller of the DAR Dynamic product line.

Regulators are different for each gun by caliber.
Regulated pressures are different by caliber (info coming)

For their testing, they used Weaver rings to mount their scopes.
Weaver series dovetail Part # 49213 & Part # 49212

That's all I have for now.

Bill I took the regulator out and looked it over but didn't take it apart, I did notice it had 149 written on it with a sharpie so I'm figuring it's set at 149 bar, the gauge on the gun is inaccurate too, when I fill it to 3K it reads a little over and it's probably dropping off the reg right at about 150 bar.

[deerflyguy]

It is what it is, but every day we learn a little more about them.

[Vee3]

In the close up it looks suspiciously like walnut stained beech on the stock... really hard to tell except from an end grain close up tho...

http://www.wood-database.com/claro-walnut/



http://www.wood-database.com/wp-content/uploads/american-beech-endgrain-zoom.jpg

I haven't seen a pic of one with a walnut stock yet; they've all been beech.

[Wayne52]

I'm kinda wondering about that too Victor   Well Mine leaked out again throughout the night, time to pull it back apart again, this time I think I'll replace all the o rings cause I think it's leaking past one of them.

[Wayne52]

Well I've come to the conclusion that these guns are genuine JUNK!!!!

I basically wasted $300+, it's enough to make me want to throw in the towel with this one.

Buyers BEWARE you'll be sorry!!!  I wish I had been one of the smart ones and sent it back, at least I would have gotten some of my money back before trying to take it apart, I'm at a dead end on the allen that holds the lever in, it's corroded to the point I think that it won't come out.  Probably the best that I can do is wait til parts are available for this gun if I want to get it working good.