Author Topic: From Findlay Airgun Show- Vintage Diana Model 50 (Read 5160 times))

Privateer · « **Reply #20 on:** April 17, 2018, 02:14:24 PM »

Where did Mike post at?

45flint · « **Reply #21 on:** April 17, 2018, 04:22:04 PM »

Quote from: Jeff aka Privateer on April 17, 2018, 02:14:24 PM

Where did Mike post at?

Sorry it was on another English site I’m on, he posts about halfway down, knowledgeable fellow.
http://www.airgunbbs.com/showthread.php?824169-Help-IDing-Diana-Model-50

Privateer · « **Reply #22 on:** April 17, 2018, 04:34:31 PM »

He is a member here at GTA.
I'm pretty sure he was at one of the GTA meets in Kentucky in the last 3 years.
I know that I saw that front sight system there.

Lizzie, one of our Moderators here, has a Model 50 also.

45flint · « **Reply #23 on:** April 17, 2018, 04:40:46 PM »

Quote from: Jeff aka Privateer on April 17, 2018, 04:34:31 PM

He is a member here at GTA.
I'm pretty sure he was at one of the GTA meets in Kentucky in the last 3 years.
I know that I saw that front sight system there.

Yes when I was researching on the internet some of his GTA posts came up. Be fun to meet up with him. That English site is just hard to beat for older European guns, the English live and breath vintage Airguns it’s in their heritage.

Do the Kentucky meets have any vintage shooting? I’m not far away here in Ohio

Privateer · « **Reply #24 on:** April 17, 2018, 04:58:02 PM »

I'm pretty sure it was the 2016 meet in Kentucky.
I didn't have the Diana Mod 27 at the 2015 meet as I got that in October 2015.

Agate47 · « **Reply #25 on:** April 17, 2018, 07:15:18 PM »

Steve,

The KY airgun meet you asked about is moving to Arkansas this year. See the gate at the beginning of the Forum page.

Steve

45flint · « **Reply #26 on:** April 17, 2018, 07:18:31 PM »

Quote from: Agate47 on April 17, 2018, 07:15:18 PM

Steve,

The KY airgun meet you asked about is moving to Arkansas this year. See the gate at the beginning of the Forum page.

Steve

Close to far far away! Lol

Privateer · « **Reply #27 on:** April 17, 2018, 07:22:43 PM »

I plan on going Steve. If your interested perhaps we can share the trip?
This is the ride I plan to take.

45flint · « **Reply #28 on:** April 17, 2018, 08:18:01 PM »

Quote from: Jeff aka Privateer on April 17, 2018, 07:22:43 PM

I plan on going Steve. If your interested perhaps we can share the trip?
This is the ride I plan to take.

That’s very generous got to look at the shoot and see if it make sense for me. I’m a vintage guy have to see if there’s shooting that makes sense for me?

45flint · « **Reply #29 on:** April 19, 2018, 10:06:51 AM »

Quote from: Yng@hrt on April 17, 2018, 10:37:53 AM

Quote from: 45flint on April 17, 2018, 09:11:25 AM
Quote from: Yng@hrt on April 17, 2018, 08:42:40 AM
Beautiful rifle Steve. Both front sight & peep are great but that front sight is way cooooool!

That’s the joy of collecting, never knew what that front sight did till I brought it home and read about it on line.

I would be interested in knowing how POI holds or doesn’t hold when sights are rotated.

Finally another warm day and I was sighting in the Diana. To start it was about dead on. Obviously it’s a used gun and someone used it for target. But it’s a springer and each persons individual hold can make a difference. I made a very slight adjustment. The rotary front sight held very true but I found I use different posts differently. I started with the simply post, holding so target sits on top. I found my favorite was the small bead, holding the bead right on center of target. This hold made me lower the POA a little. These sights are extremely robust and accurate. Shooting this gun you feel like you are shooting a German WW2 Kar98, given where and when it was made that’s probably no accident. Just like the 1949 Crosman 108 is so much like a M1 Garrand.

Yng@hrt · « **Reply #30 on:** April 19, 2018, 10:32:28 AM »

Steve, this statement was on the link provided by Jeff, which by the way is over the top with the author’s exceptional photographs & expert explanations for each; The unusual-looking front sight contains a rotating element with four different posts. Each of these mates to a corresponding notch in the rear sight.

The way I interpret this is once the rifle is sighted in with one site the rear sight makes adjustments for the other 3 so that POI does not change. It would be interesting to know if this is in fact the case.

45flint · « **Reply #31 on:** April 19, 2018, 10:59:59 AM »

Quote from: Yng@hrt on April 19, 2018, 10:32:28 AM

Steve, this statement was on the link provided by Jeff, which by the way is over the top with the author’s exceptional photographs & expert explanations for each; The unusual-looking front sight contains a rotating element with four different posts. Each of these mates to a corresponding notch in the rear sight.

The way I interpret this is once the rifle is sighted in with one site the rear sight makes adjustments for the other 3 so that POI does not change. It would be interesting to know if this is in fact the case.

I would have to relocate the sight to the mid position. Haven’t fiquired out how to do that yet? I took the most likely screw out and it didn’t move. I am reluctant to see if I need to tap it off given I may be missing something and this gun is so perfect I’m paranoid I’m going to screw something up. Lol. May ask that guy from Tennessee. But given my experience so far, I would bet money it will hold. To be continued or not?

Yng@hrt · « **Reply #32 on:** April 19, 2018, 02:45:05 PM »

I'm not sure if this helps but 3rd post of this link by MDriskell goes into some detail about the rear sight.

https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2017/09/the-diana-model-50-underlever-part-3/

Privateer · « **Reply #33 on:** April 19, 2018, 02:52:18 PM »

Quote from: Yng@hrt on April 19, 2018, 02:45:05 PM

I'm not sure if this helps but 3rd post of this link by MDriskell goes into some detail about the rear sight.

https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2017/09/the-diana-model-50-underlever-part-3/

Good find Mate!

45flint · « **Reply #34 on:** April 19, 2018, 05:40:18 PM »

I actually emailed Mike Driskill and he’s going to get back with me tonight, some people must work? Lol. Thanks the amazing thing about the internet, you can make friend from far away places that have the same interests as you.

I doubt you can find a post on the Diana 50 I haven’t read twice! Those reviews from Tom Gaylord are awesome, he is so knowledgeable, he did a great review on my Crosman 108 as well. I was hoping he would be at the Findlay Airgun Show so I could meet him, but he was a no show this year.

Yng@hrt · « **Reply #35 on:** April 19, 2018, 06:10:35 PM »

Quote from: Jeff aka Privateer on April 19, 2018, 02:52:18 PM

Quote from: Yng@hrt on April 19, 2018, 02:45:05 PM
I'm not sure if this helps but 3rd post of this link by MDriskell goes into some detail about the rear sight.

https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2017/09/the-diana-model-50-underlever-part-3/

Good find Mate!

Just following your lead.

MDriskill · « **Reply #36 on:** April 19, 2018, 09:13:19 PM »

Quote from: 45flint on April 17, 2018, 04:22:04 PM

Quote from: Jeff aka Privateer on April 17, 2018, 02:14:24 PM
Where did Mike post at?

Sorry it was on another English site I’m on, he posts about halfway down, knowledgeable fellow.
http://www.airgunbbs.com/showthread.php?824169-Help-IDing-Diana-Model-50

I’m not sure “old and weird” is exactly the same as “knowledgeable,” but hey, I’ll take it.

I have three variations of these nifty older model 50’s. Thanks to the new archive version of the defunct Yellow Forum, which has somehow magically leapt over the Photobucket debacle, here are old posts on them:

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/AmericanVintageAirguns/paper-punching-underlever-no-2-diana-model-50-b-t2965.html

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/yellow/diana-model-50-a-target-rifle-t165956.html

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/AmericanVintageAirguns/peerless-50m-t3788.html

MDriskill · « **Reply #37 on:** April 19, 2018, 09:27:06 PM »

Quote from: Yng@hrt on April 19, 2018, 10:32:28 AM

Steve, this statement was on the link provided by Jeff, which by the way is over the top with the author’s exceptional photographs & expert explanations for each; The unusual-looking front sight contains a rotating element with four different posts. Each of these mates to a corresponding notch in the rear sight.

The way I interpret this is once the rifle is sighted in with one site the rear sight makes adjustments for the other 3 so that POI does not change. It would be interesting to know if this is in fact the case.

The front posts are exactly the same height and lock firmly into place perpendicular to the barrel. So in theory the POI remains the same, though in the real world you might hold each one a bit differently of course. The posts are a fine bead, coarse bead, pointed “barleycorn,” and straight rectangular.

Yng@hrt · « **Reply #38 on:** April 20, 2018, 09:24:57 AM »

Quote from: MDriskill on April 19, 2018, 09:27:06 PM

Quote from: Yng@hrt on April 19, 2018, 10:32:28 AM
Steve, this statement was on the link provided by Jeff, which by the way is over the top with the author’s exceptional photographs & expert explanations for each; The unusual-looking front sight contains a rotating element with four different posts. Each of these mates to a corresponding notch in the rear sight.

The way I interpret this is once the rifle is sighted in with one site the rear sight makes adjustments for the other 3 so that POI does not change. It would be interesting to know if this is in fact the case.

The front posts are exactly the same height and lock firmly into place perpendicular to the barrel. So in theory the POI remains the same, though in the real world you might hold each one a bit differently of course. The posts are a fine bead, coarse bead, pointed “barleycorn,” and straight rectangular.

Mike, first off your photo's & detailed info are to be commended. I wish someone would give us the same detailed photo's for Sheridan's & the Benjamin 392P & 397P.

My question is; you mentioned above that each front sight matches with a corresponding notch in the rear sight. Can you provide more detail on how this system works?

Thank you.

45flint · « **Reply #39 on:** April 20, 2018, 11:12:34 AM »

Mike yesterday was so helpful sending me pics of his sight and how to remove it. He told me that there was a rubber gasket that had probably deteriorated given age and I just needed to tap the sight free. Well, he nailed it. I loosened the single retaining screw and just used my hand to tap a few times and it came free. See pics of the red gasket. Very cool design, see the ribs in the sight pad that lock down onto similar ribs on the gun. Have my sight now in the up position without the diopter. Like that military look. I will today to tomorrow (still cold) run through the the four posts and back sights and will see how they work.

I guess to me what is impressive to start out with, as I shot today having taken off my diopter sight and moved my now open sight to the front position, the point of aim is still pretty much still on? This is without sand bags just arm resting on my shooting table with old blurry eyes. Lol. Too cold had to come in.

Diopter:

Open sight from new rail:

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From Findlay Airgun Show- Vintage Diana Model 50

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