Crosman Customer Service now is TERRIBLE ! [b]FIXED!![/b]

[avator]

Looking at the EVP, part 22 the long lever, shows a hole at the mid point.  See if the pin fits there.   It's possible the pin has a camming action to engage the piston.

That's exactly my thought. A hole thru the linkage and a ledge on either side of the plastic stock for it to ride on.

[mobilehomer]

Looking at the EVP, part 22 the long lever, shows a hole at the mid point.  See if the pin fits there.   It's possible the pin has a camming action to engage the piston.

This is it. The pin keeps the lever(22) parallel to the action while cocking.

[MIKELMIS]

I hope you fellers are right !  I will report back early next week - out of town for now .

[MIKELMIS]

No cigar-  there is no hole in the linkage on this gun .
 Anyone else ??

[Matchstickshooter]

No place in the plastic grip,(toward the front of the gun) where it would it would lay cross ways as a support for the linkage?
 I haven't had one in a while,...trying to remember.


I just looked at the schematic,and,your picture again. That is a "long" pin,by the pic.
 Makes me think of the one holding your end cap on,holding the nitro piston in.

[Bentong]

Did you by chance disassembled the trigger group, if you did might have not oriented the 3 springs that holds the sears and trigger not making the sear engage the Piston tube.

[MIKELMIS]

No place in the plastic grip,(toward the front of the gun) where it would it would lay cross ways as a support for the linkage?
 I haven't had one in a while,...trying to remember.


I just looked at the schematic,and,your picture again. That is a "long" pin,by the pic.
 Makes me think of the one holding your end cap on,holding the nitro piston in.

There is a space in the handle that the pin could lay crosswise in ; but iI tried that every which way and it did not solve the problem . I did not take the trigger assembly apart .

[MIKELMIS]

ALL FIXED !!
  I went and bought ANOTHER gun to see if I could deduce the trouble ; and I found the "pin" has a  rubber doughnut that slips over it to act as a cam . I found the "doughnut" from the orig. gun on my desk and put everything back together and now It's FIXED !!
  All the Customer Rep. lady had to do was let me talk to one of their techs and the problem would have been solved right then and there on the phone ; but oh no - she's got to bust my chops and tells me the ONLY resolution is to send it to dealer for repair .......
TERRIBLE CUSTOMER SERVICE

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

Great news!  Congrats!  And now you have 2 guns!  Win, Win!  LOL!

[avator]

LOL.... that's one way of doing it.

[MIKELMIS]

Yep- now I got one for each hand !
Had the pin been included in their schematic it would have been an EASY fix as well

[avator]

Well, look at it this way..
For the cost of a second gun you have become THE source of invaluable information for future reference to our GTA members.
Congratulations on your graduation to Guru-ness.

[A.K.A. Tommy Boy]

Yep- now I got one for each hand !
Had the pin been included in their schematic it would have been an EASY fix as well

Well, look at it this way..
For the cost of a second gun you have become THE source of invaluable information for future reference to our GTA members.
Congratulations on your graduation to Guru-ness.

Guru MIKELMIS ! ...when can we start the yearly pilgrimages to your place ?                   

[MIKELMIS]

Come one  , come all !

I even got a wee bit longer screw to make it a hair trigger and adjusted the thing-a-ma-jig on the side of the forward end of the barrel to almost eliminate blowby.
  Sometimes life is good 

[Wolverineshooter]

Both Crosman and Gamo customer service are going down. It cost money to be good.

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

It’s that new 5 year warranty!  If customer service declines, people are less apt to use it!!!  😜

[Hoosier Daddy]

OK... every once and a while I come across like a Jerk, and I have been biting my tongue to not say what I have been thinking because of that reason.
 So please take this as a constructive comment and not being a wise guy just to be argumentative.
While I understand your frustration with Crosman and their lack of Technical Support, and their Exploded Diagram lacking what you were looking for...
You took a gun apart and could not figure out how to put it back together. That is not their fault.
 I was an Automotive Technician for 2 decades and if someone brought me a bolt and said "Where does this go? I took it apart and had this left over, now it wont run." I would be probably be stumped without having the car in front of me. ESPECIALLY if some Design Engineer didn't put it in the exploded diagram.
 How could the Tech Support person help you under those circumstances they were dealt?
 There has to be a certain amount of responsibility / accountability for you to admit that you disassembled it, you should know where the pieces came from. Also you did not notice a left over "rubber doughnut" part on your bench.
 If you used terminology with them like "the thing-a-ma-jig on the side of the forward end of the barrel" any one would have a rough time helping you over the phone.
 Heck some of the best airgun minds in the world are here and they could not help you either.

 I am guilty of the "tiny spring and ball" syndrome most 13XX and 22XX owners are familiar with. I didn't blame Crosman. Difference is people here could help me.

Glad you go it fixed and all ended well.
Some people would have TWO mystery pins now. 

[Wayne52]

Exploded views of the guns are available from their website

[Hoosier Daddy]

The one for his gun did not show the pin he had left over.
 That was his biggest issue.

[MIKELMIS]

oh man - now I got my chops busted good -here on these boards -by my own brothers.
 I just got a private message from one of you telling me to return the gun back to Crosman and they would send me a new one !?  Don't we read the entire thread b4 bashing the author ? 
      I did not take the gun apart ; i took the 4 screws out that hold the plastic stock on to the barrel . If you call that "taking the gun apart" then your a better man then I.
My desk is a mess , I suppose your going to whack me for that and scold me for not being neater . The pin and doughnut are just laying in a slot in the plastic handle...with the plastic handle removed ,turn the stock upside down and they just fall out . I used the term "thing a majig tounge in cheek"- I was full of glee at having the gun functional again . I never used such language with them over the phone .
  With all due respect - get off your high horse and cut the judgemental B.S . It is unwarranted and unappreciated .

OK... every once and a while I come across like a Jerk, and I have been biting my tongue to not say what I have been thinking because of that reason.
 So please take this as a constructive comment and not being a wise guy just to be argumentative.
While I understand your frustration with Crosman and their lack of Technical Support, and their Exploded Diagram lacking what you were looking for...
You took a gun apart and could not figure out how to put it back together. That is not their fault.
 I was an Automotive Technician for 2 decades and if someone brought me a bolt and said "Where does this go? I took it apart and had this left over, now it wont run." I would be probably be stumped without having the car in front of me. ESPECIALLY if some Design Engineer didn't put it in the exploded diagram.
 How could the Tech Support person help you under those circumstances they were dealt?
 There has to be a certain amount of responsibility / accountability for you to admit that you disassembled it, you should know where the pieces came from. Also you did not notice a left over "rubber doughnut" part on your bench.
 If you used terminology with them like "the thing-a-ma-jig on the side of the forward end of the barrel" any one would have a rough time helping you over the phone.
 Heck some of the best airgun minds in the world are here and they could not help you either.

 I am guilty of the "tiny spring and ball" syndrome most 13XX and 22XX owners are familiar with. I didn't blame Crosman. Difference is people here could help me.

Glad you go it fixed and all ended well.
Some people would have TWO mystery pins now.