Author Topic: Inaccurate Striker .25 (Read 4547 times))

gendoc · « **Reply #20 on:** March 24, 2018, 09:27:13 AM »

hatsan uses there branded pellets when testing and i believe there H&N pellets...not really sure but there identical in the 19.91gr that i have shot and compared.

they will base there testing with the 19.91gr pellets. i have been down the same road as you but my gun was not usable and they credited me towards a different model.

if its shooting the 19.91's good then you should be happy. and your chrony results should also be close to 650fps with them.

good luck

mentolio · « **Reply #21 on:** March 24, 2018, 02:54:17 PM »

I guess it depends on what YOU decide is "respectable." Any gun worth its chops (regardless of price) should be able to keep a group within a few inches (let's say in this case 4 inches maximum) at twenty yards REGARDLESS OF THE PELLET (excepting perhaps alloy pellets in a really hot-shooting gun). Frankly, 4 inches is laughable, but I'm keeping with trying to be realistic. My Mod 95 in .25 was my first spring powered Hatsan in .25 that would keep groups below 4 inches, and now is capable of sub 1 inch groups at twenty yards with pellets it likes (JSB, H&N), and opens up with those it doesn't like (Benjamin). Anyway, that 4 inch max group should shrink SIGNIFICANTLY as you find pellets that fit the bore better. Ultimately I always say sub one inch groups at thirty yards is acceptable. For a .25 I'm willing to lower my standards a bit considering the weight of the pellets (heavy), the "lower power" of the springer power plant (compared to a PCP), and the ranges I will realistically expect to shoot (the sum of the first two considerations). So what is your respectable group measuring? I suggest where there is doubt, there is NO doubt. Look at the pellets you pushed through. If they lack fairly deep and consistent rifling grooves cut into both the head and skirt, then that barrel is too darned big. Possible expansion aside, if there is no resistance felt when you pushed it through (from both ends, don't forget), there is a problem. Ultimately, as much as I wanted the Striker to work out for me, I ended up talking them into sending me a 95 after two critical fails. Best of luck!

jlp920 · « **Reply #22 on:** March 24, 2018, 03:14:32 PM »

I really appreciate everyone’s feedback. I believe you’ve given me all the info I need to make a good decision with this one. I’ll let you know what ends up happening...tight groups, folks.
-jp

jlp920 · « **Reply #23 on:** April 01, 2018, 09:15:08 AM »

Here’s what’s happening on the Striker front.
I have a letter out to Hatsan, no response yet.
I’m considering how I want to proceed, possibly trade up for a m135 if they’ll let me.
In the meantime, are there any pellets known to be oversized? I read that JSB Exact King Heavies fit that bill.
-Jesse

gendoc · « **Reply #24 on:** April 01, 2018, 12:46:25 PM »

Quote from: jlp920 on April 01, 2018, 09:15:08 AM

Here’s what’s happening on the Striker front.
I have a letter out to Hatsan, no response yet.
I’m considering how I want to proceed, possibly trade up for a m135 if they’ll let me.
In the meantime, are there any pellets known to be oversized? I read that JSB Exact King Heavies fit that bill.
-Jesse

when my .25 edge was sent back, i asked them if they could apply the refund amount to another gun they had......well, they never replied back before my CC was refunded.
so i just went and bought another model they had.

jlp920 · « **Reply #25 on:** April 01, 2018, 01:14:35 PM »

A refund would be fine with me.

Horatio · « **Reply #26 on:** April 01, 2018, 02:41:41 PM »

How is the barrel on it held into the breach block? No, it shouldn’t be that loose.

Crazy idea but.... if your really stuck with it and have nothing to loose, maybe use a Crosman soda straw barrel as a liner and sleeve it down to .22? Just an idea.

jlp920 · « **Reply #27 on:** April 01, 2018, 11:15:34 PM »

Thanks for the suggestion.
Or maybe open it up to .30 ;-)

Horatio · « **Reply #28 on:** April 02, 2018, 05:22:55 PM »

Quote from: jlp920 on April 01, 2018, 11:15:34 PM

Thanks for the suggestion.
Or maybe open it up to .30 ;-)

Sure! I just don't know of a liner that would work, neither for .25 or .30...

jlp920 · « **Reply #29 on:** April 03, 2018, 07:01:20 PM »

Hatsan is not cutting me any slack, no help at all.
It was worth a shot. Now to track down some oversized pellets.

Horatio · « **Reply #30 on:** April 03, 2018, 08:14:43 PM »

Bummer.

An unusual statement on it’s way... to bad it wasn’t an Umarex or Crosman, then you could just order a barrel..

mentolio · « **Reply #31 on:** April 04, 2018, 11:12:18 AM »

So...has Hatsan actually told you they won't return/exchange your gun? Or is it just a matter of them not responding in what most people consider a "timely" manner? They are rarely prompt with "actual communication," preferring instead to rely on email, which is hit or miss at best with them. I'd keep plugging away at them. They did offer to send you an RMA, right? I'd take that and run with it. If their answer is absolutely "NO," then I might consider sending it in for repair. It'll cost you a few bucks, but you might get the gun back with a new barrel, and possibly shooting better? Otherwise, part that sucker out. Hatsan gets upwards of $30 for a wood stock, and they don't/won't sell barrels or trigger groups. You might be able to recoup your money spent?

jlp920 · « **Reply #32 on:** April 04, 2018, 12:35:29 PM »

They sent an RMA, but also said the warranty was up so everything was on me.
I plan to try a couple more pellets and a scope-if groups still not so good I’ll sell it.
I’m going to stick with light pellets, 19.19 grain. If nothing else I think it stabilizes them better, and doesn’t really have the oomph for the heavies.
-jp

mentolio · « **Reply #33 on:** April 04, 2018, 07:02:28 PM »

I would suggest the opposite. My “bad barrels” grouped best with JSB 25.3(?) grainers and the heavy Eunjins. Faster rarely means more stable. The Eunjins were the tightest fit, and in spit of their weight, still hit the target pretty danged hard at twenty yards.

jlp920 · « **Reply #34 on:** April 05, 2018, 02:16:10 PM »

Alright, thanks. I’ll take that into consideration.

Privateer · « **Reply #35 on:** April 05, 2018, 02:28:31 PM »

If you want? You can just turn it into a .22
I'll trade you a .22 assembly for the .25
Myself I never liked the Striker in a .25
Now in a .22? Great gun.

mentolio · « **Reply #36 on:** April 06, 2018, 03:26:04 AM »

As cool as the “biggest small bore” is in a springer, Jeff (Privateer) offering up a .22 barrel for your .25 is a sweet deal! I liked the idea of a .25 Striker, but in reality I agree in thinking that particular power plant is “better” suited to .22 and .177 (more accurate, longer range, and probably better overall for hunting). Not as cool, but more practical, in my opinion. I’d strongly consider taking that offer.

jlp920 · « **Reply #37 on:** April 06, 2018, 08:36:29 PM »

Jeff, I will happily take you up on that. PM sent.

jlp920 · « **Reply #38 on:** May 19, 2018, 08:34:02 PM »

Got it scoped and some better pellets.
Things are looking up.
The Hatsan 19.19 are a bit wider, they seem to fly straight.
Also got one of those Winchester/ Daisy scopes on sale.

Privateer · « **Reply #39 on:** May 19, 2018, 08:43:40 PM »

The H&N 19.19's are the best in my 135. They were also the best in the 125 Sniper .25 I had.

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