Banned From YouTube

[PelletsForPests]

 In a perfect world people from both sides of the argument would be able to post their ideas and be heard. That does happen sometimes when both sides act as adults and speak with respect while they explain their feelings on any given subject.

 People say youtube is antigun and I personally dont know that to be fact or not and they use that statement to argue that youtube is punishing channels that are pro gun. For sake of argument lets say youtube is antigun so if thats true why are people surprised with their actions then? Why do people keep driving revenue to a company like youtube that doesnt support their lifestyle or rights under the constitution? If youtube is anti gun then I have no grounds to complain if they stop allowing all content that has anything to do with guns, airguns, hunting or just shooting for fun since it is their domain. I would expect youtube to do just that if I believed they were antigun.

 Lets flip the coin now. What do you think would happen if people who are anti gun, airgun, hunting and plinking joined this forum or other gun, airgun, hunting and plinking forums and started to post videos and threads supporting their anti gun ideas? Do you think the owners/admins of those forums would allow anti gun/airgun members to push their agenda? I bet most or all of that content would be removed along with the members posting the content. My grandpa would say "whats good for the goose is good for the gander".

 Both sides are correct in wanting to remove content they find offensive or against their beliefs after all thats one reason to have a forum dedicated to what you like to do. What people should be concerned about is the continued support and making money for the anti gun/ hunting entities out there by pro gun/hunting people.

Your logic holds true, and I agree with what you're saying. I just worry knowing full well kids and average non-gun owners aren't going to boycott Youtube so long as they can watch their five favorite content makers blow up watermelons and paint cans with guns they've seen in movies and video games.. We're being pushed against the wall. Our sport, hobby, way of life- many on here's livelihood - is getting bastardized by billionaires, and forced into taboo obscurity. I know protesting isn't really something we do on the right, but I really, REALLY wish we could come together on some level as gun owners and just decent people to show the likes of Youtube what we think of them saying educational gun videos harm children, but Miley Cyrus (or whoever is popular today) promoting illegal and objectively degenerate behavior is fine for hundreds of millions of kids to absorb un-age restricted. (not saying lets try ban random things or sue Youtube, but they're such an influential monolith that we should say, well... something... right?)

[aceflier]

I heard Bwalton got axed also.

[LDP]

Rick the problem I am starting to see with our group of people that includes big game hunters, small game hunters, shooting enthusiasts and anyone that is pro 2nd amendment is the fact our group or industry as a whole continues to drive money "power" into the pockets of the very people who want to remove our interest. We as a group or industry needs to stand up together to make sure we are heard and that our revenue is going into the pockets that help us. I know thats hard to do these days because so many companies are tied to the anti group. We cant keep all our revenue out of their hands but I agree with Don that we as a group can make a big enough impact by removing our money from as many of these places as possible. This happened not to long ago with youtube changing policies that hurt hunting and shooting channels and no one has come up with a site dedicated to our shooting sports. It seems people just took it and said well we will start a fund for the channel so it can keep running and now they are seeing what a bad mistake that was.

[LDP]

I heard Bwalton got axed also.

I just checked his site and yes its down. I need to see if all the original copies of my videos are on my hard drive cause it looks like they are moving down a list removing channels.

[LDP]

I see the squirrel hunters channel is still up. He has a bunch of videos of just killing so I wonder whats bringing channels to youtubes attention. Im guessing a group of people probably ones that have negative posts on channels decided to flag as many channels as possible to get them removed.

[LDP]

Heres a couple more channels I didnt know got removed:
pyramid air
robert lanes channel

[toine]

AoA,
EdGun Weat,
Pyarmyd,
Umarex,
Daystate,
MTC / Daystate / Brocock support,
Robert Lane,
AirgunsARP,
Baxter's,
Airgun Evolution (i think that's what it's called)

And about a half dozen other smaller ones.

My rant if anyone wants to waste their time:

[nervoustrigger]

Wow, this is out of control.  Even Robert Lane’s?  Yeah, regulator operation is some controversial stuff for sure.  Thank goodness that stuff finally got scrubbed so sensitive eyes don’t have to endure the trauma.

[nervoustrigger]

Just checked and Robert Lane's channel is up as of now:
https://www.youtube.com/user/robertlanedesign/videos

[LDP]

Just checked and Robert Lane's channel is up as of now:
https://www.youtube.com/user/robertlanedesign/videos

Thats correct. I forgot he created the new channel and I was looking at his old one.

[Nomadic Pirate]

I don't think I have a channel per se but if the scrub my videos are they gone for good ?

[toine]

I don't think I have a channel per se but if the scrub my videos are they gone for good ?

If they Scrub or delete your account, they are gone for good Manny.
If you need a place to store them, even on a temp basis, shoot me a message and I'll do what I can to help.

[LDP]

I don't think I have a channel per se but if the scrub my videos are they gone for good ?

Yes.
I just checked my hard drive real quick and I dont see my videos. I just started the archive option to download my videos from youtube in original format that I uploaded them to my hard drive so I wont lose anything. Manny its pretty easy to do and if I was you I would download my videos before something happens.

[StevenG]

Sounds like a business opportunity.

[Nomadic Pirate]

Well, I have the most basic Chromebook so I don't think I have enough storage space to download all my videos.

So if they delete my account all the videos in my threads will disappear right ?

Well look like all my threads will be bare pretty soon since Photobucket just Emailed me they are discontinuing the Plus program I had now for a decade or so and I'm not going to pay 100 bucks for the program they are substituting it with.

[LDP]

Well, I have the most basic Chromebook so I don't think I have enough storage space to download all my videos.

So if they delete my account all the videos in my threads will disappear right ?

Well look like all my threads will be bare pretty soon since Photobucket just Emailed me they are discontinuing the Plus program I had now for a decade or so and I'm not going to pay 100 bucks for the program they are substituting it with.

Does the chrome book have a usb port? If it does you might be able to put them onto a flash drive. The only other option that I can think of is to use someones computer that you know and download the videos then put them on a flash drive. I have allot of HD videos on my channel and its only 12 gb of data to download cause it compresses it. You shouldnt have to much data for the download but you will still need a hard drive to download it to.

[LDP]

Manny you can also download all your photobucket pics also. You need to find youreself a computer to use or anyone you can trust with your login info so they can download it for you. You have to much info to just lose so hopefully you can find a way to get the data off the sites.

[PelletsForPests]

Leland, I hear you loud and clear. All i can say is that for now, I'm done with Youtube, and am now happily following Edgun West and Airguns:ARP on Vimeo. There's always a tipping point, and something tells me Youtube is going to panic when they realize the pendulum is swinging away. A GTA video gate would be awesome too, just don't want to see our sport by getting quarantined.

[toine]

Add Airgunweb to the list.

[WesBob]

Very true, YouTube has the right to dictate what they allow. Hopefully a new airgun video platform will be announced soon as has been hinted at, and hopefully those who made their living on the videos will be able to keep their sponsors and advertisers as well, if that is possible.