Former Hatsan owner. 95 QE nitro. It worked ok for a while but would not recommend. My hw 50s is a work of art and craftsmanship by comparison. Will not purchase any Hatsan going forward.
Quote from: BEN342R on February 16, 2018, 07:36:41 AMFormer Hatsan owner. 95 QE nitro. It worked ok for a while but would not recommend. My hw 50s is a work of art and craftsmanship by comparison. Will not purchase any Hatsan going forward. Comparing a Hatsan to a Weihrauch is like comparing a Chevy to a Mercedes...they're both air rifles, but that's where it ends...lol. I own both and Hatsans are what they are, an inexpensive work horse of a gun and one you'd take a lot of places you'd never consider taking your Weihrauch. They use German made steel but not to the same quality levels of your Weihrauch and a healthy chunk of their parts are probably made in house, again with lesser quality materials, but they're mass produced rifles that workers probably have a build quota they have to try and meet every day compared to someplace like Weihrauch, that, while they still build every rifle by hand, use way better quality materials and take a lot more pride in what they build and it shows.They have their problems but every gun out there does. Read any Gate in the forum and you'll find stories about members who got something with an issue from all the high end guns to the lower end ones like Hatsan. Air guns are no different than anything else you might buy, there's always the chance you'll get a lemon.Hatsan's biggest problem is their unwillingness to sell ALL their parts. They're selective and, just my lame personal opinion, but it's about the money. They want to try and make more money by making you send your rifle back to have it repaired than they would just selling you the parts you need or want and that's where Jeff and a lot of other owners are getting irritated and starting to steer away from them.
they sell stocks, $100 for bt65 tac stock
Quote from: Dan H on February 16, 2018, 04:08:49 AMthey sell stocks, $100 for bt65 tac stock I've never seen a tactical stock for the BT65.Galation and AT44, yes. And now one is out for the Nova but not sure if HatsanUSA has them.And exactly what do you do when your older AT44's or BT65's suffer a parts failure?Hatsan would have you send them the gun so they can charge you to fix it.I'm not having any of that! Sell me every part I need or want or my business goes else where.
Ron, You pull the trigger and polish it for instant relief.I'm thinking they hope that number of shots put the Gun out of warranty so you have to pay them to fix it.
Brief update on my customer service report.My Bullboss .25 had a bad barrel.Hatsan wanted the whole gun to examine.After sending pics and talking to them.They seen I knew what I was talking about.Mailed them my barrel only.After 2 days of them receiving they mailed me a new barrel.Did not look promising as the barrel was full of oil and grease.Cleaned and found a spot in the barrel i.d. that looks larger.Pushed a pellet through and transferport cuts pellets.Repaired the transferport and shoots great so far.Hole in hole groups at 35 yards with several pellets.Im happy so far.Be nice if Quality Control was a lil better.Still I see a bt65 in my future.
Quote from: BEN342R on February 16, 2018, 07:36:41 AMFormer Hatsan owner. 95 QE nitro. It worked ok for a while but would not recommend. My hw 50s is a work of art and craftsmanship by comparison. Will not purchase any Hatsan going forward. What did you pay for the Hatsan and what did you pay for the HW? A Mitsubishi sells for around $15K, and a Porsche Carrera sells for around $100K. They both have 4 wheels and are about the same size, but I would expect the Porsche to have better craftsmanship and performance, wouldn't you?
Quote from: packard8 on February 17, 2018, 03:50:21 PMQuote from: BEN342R on February 16, 2018, 07:36:41 AMFormer Hatsan owner. 95 QE nitro. It worked ok for a while but would not recommend. My hw 50s is a work of art and craftsmanship by comparison. Will not purchase any Hatsan going forward. What did you pay for the Hatsan and what did you pay for the HW? A Mitsubishi sells for around $15K, and a Porsche Carrera sells for around $100K. They both have 4 wheels and are about the same size, but I would expect the Porsche to have better craftsmanship and performance, wouldn't you?Care to guess which will be more reliable?
Quote from: StevenG on February 21, 2018, 10:08:54 AMQuote from: packard8 on February 17, 2018, 03:50:21 PMQuote from: BEN342R on February 16, 2018, 07:36:41 AMFormer Hatsan owner. 95 QE nitro. It worked ok for a while but would not recommend. My hw 50s is a work of art and craftsmanship by comparison. Will not purchase any Hatsan going forward. What did you pay for the Hatsan and what did you pay for the HW? A Mitsubishi sells for around $15K, and a Porsche Carrera sells for around $100K. They both have 4 wheels and are about the same size, but I would expect the Porsche to have better craftsmanship and performance, wouldn't you?Care to guess which will be more reliable?Bought within a couple months of each other. All 3 came from AoA. All 3 are .22's. The Tomahawks are nothing more than a Model 95 springer in a prettier stock. I paid a 1/3 less for them than I did the HW95. None of them are tuned or tweaked in any way and the Tommy's have been just as reliable as the 95.All but a couple of my gas rammed Hatty's are older, have more shots on them than those 3, are still going strong and the only one that's failed on me is because I tinkered with it, it did not fail on it's own.I'm well aware Hatsan owners have had issues with them, but I'm also aware there's been many owners of Weihrauch's that also got problem guns out of the box. Paying more money is no guarantee you're going to get a faultless gun. The whole point of Jeff's original post was Hatsan's Customer Service, how bad it's gotten, their seeming unwillingness to do anything (or very little) about it or offering ALL their parts, not just a select few.