Ebay-High Pressure 30MPa Air Compressor System 228.12 free shipping

[Buldawg76]

A .17 HMR would do nicely.

Mike

[56S]

A .17 HMR would do nicely.

Mike

Exactly.  I know this is an airgun forum but sometimes you just need a powder burner to get the job done right.

[Buldawg76]

Yep but its still the right caliber.

Mike

[avator]

LOL.... You crack me up Mike.

[Techie]

17HMR=3 times the velocity of an airgun and 9 times the energy.  Funny how that works.

[Buldawg76]

LOL.... You crack me up Mike.

I do try to see the bright side of things if possible.

Mike

[Buldawg76]

17HMR=3 times the velocity of an airgun and 9 times the energy.  Funny how that works.

Exactly why I said that round. It should leave a very lasting impression on the coin and in the scammers mind.

Mike

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

I sent eBay a message yesterday and included a picture of what I received so they could see that I did not receive what was described in the listing. Today I received an email from eBay wanting me to file a report through IC3.com, a website for reporting internet commerce fraud!  Un-flipping-believable!  I believe my days of buying on eBay are over. I'm beginning to feel like I'm the one being doubted here not the fraud Chenhlong9842 who actually ripped everyone off!  Some protection! 

[2K1TJ]

I sent eBay a message yesterday and included a picture of what I received so they could see that I did not receive what was described in the listing. Today I received an email from eBay wanting me to file a report through IC3.com, a website for reporting internet commerce fraud!  Un-flipping-believable!  I believe my days of buying on eBay are over. I'm beginning to feel like I'm the one being doubted here not the fraud Chenhlong9842 who actually ripped everyone off!  Some protection!

I would dispute it through Paypal.

[packard8]

I sent eBay a message yesterday and included a picture of what I received so they could see that I did not receive what was described in the listing. Today I received an email from eBay wanting me to file a report through IC3.com, a website for reporting internet commerce fraud!  Un-flipping-believable!  I believe my days of buying on eBay are over. I'm beginning to feel like I'm the one being doubted here not the fraud Chenhlong9842 who actually ripped everyone off!  Some protection!

I would dispute it through Paypal.

PayPal is not any better. They will require you to return the "compressor" to the scammer and they require that you ship it via a service that has tracking. I recently found my uncles' WWII dog tag and wanted to send it to his son (my cousin) in Norway. I inquired at the USPO about shipping with tracking and it required Priority service for $57 if I wanted tracking. I sent it regular Airmail for $1.50 and it arrived in good shape in a few days.

Bottom line...you'll have to pay $57 to send a worthless item to a ghost address in China before PayPal will issue a refund. Best bet is to dispute it with your bank or CC company. Seems like eBay and PayPal are part of the scam, doesn't it?

[imadunatic]

I would dispute it through Paypal.

You can... and you will also have to wait an additional 7 days for the seller to respond to paypal (yes, the clock resets), then you can escalate it in the next 10-20 days if they don't respond, and once they have deemed that the seller is not going to send you a return label, they will make a decision on your case. I just had this phone call Friday after I talked to Ebay.

[imadunatic]

I sent eBay a message yesterday and included a picture of what I received so they could see that I did not receive what was described in the listing. Today I received an email from eBay wanting me to file a report through IC3.com, a website for reporting internet commerce fraud!  Un-flipping-believable!  I believe my days of buying on eBay are over. I'm beginning to feel like I'm the one being doubted here not the fraud Chenhlong9842 who actually ripped everyone off!  Some protection!

I would dispute it through Paypal.

PayPal is not any better. They will require you to return the "compressor" to the scammer and they require that you ship it via a service that has tracking. I recently found my uncles' WWII dog tag and wanted to send it to his son (my cousin) in Norway. I inquired at the USPO about shipping with tracking and it required Priority service for $57 if I wanted tracking. I sent it regular Airmail for $1.50 and it arrived in good shape in a few days.

Bottom line...you'll have to pay $57 to send a worthless item to a ghost address in China before PayPal will issue a refund. Best bet is to dispute it with your bank or CC company. Seems like eBay and PayPal are part of the scam, doesn't it?

John,

Paypal now requires the seller to provide a trackable shipping label, the buyer does not need to pay for it.

[packard8]

I sent eBay a message yesterday and included a picture of what I received so they could see that I did not receive what was described in the listing. Today I received an email from eBay wanting me to file a report through IC3.com, a website for reporting internet commerce fraud!  Un-flipping-believable!  I believe my days of buying on eBay are over. I'm beginning to feel like I'm the one being doubted here not the fraud Chenhlong9842 who actually ripped everyone off!  Some protection!

I would dispute it through Paypal.

PayPal is not any better. They will require you to return the "compressor" to the scammer and they require that you ship it via a service that has tracking. I recently found my uncles' WWII dog tag and wanted to send it to his son (my cousin) in Norway. I inquired at the USPO about shipping with tracking and it required Priority service for $57 if I wanted tracking. I sent it regular Airmail for $1.50 and it arrived in good shape in a few days.

Bottom line...you'll have to pay $57 to send a worthless item to a ghost address in China before PayPal will issue a refund. Best bet is to dispute it with your bank or CC company. Seems like eBay and PayPal are part of the scam, doesn't it?

John,

Paypal now requires the seller to provide a trackable shipping label, the buyer does not need to pay for it.

Kevin, I just received this from PayPay this AM

To refund your payment, we need to confirm that the merchandise was delivered to the seller. To do this, you'll need to use a shipping method that provides online tracking information. If the transaction was $750.00 USD or more, we need signature confirmation from the seller. This is an additional service that most shipping companies can provide.

After you've shipped the merchandise, log in to your PayPal account and go to the Resolution Center to enter the online tracking information. We suggest you retain a copy of the shipping label to verify the address of the shipping recipient. In some instances you may be required to provide this document to PayPal.

Once we’ve confirmed your seller has received the merchandise, we will issue your refund. The refund should reflect in your PayPal balance within 5 business days. If you paid using a card, the money will be refunded to your card. It can take up to 30 days for the refund to appear on your card statement, depending on your card issuer's timeframes.

Remember, you need to ship the merchandise and provide online tracking information in the Resolution Center before September 27, 2017. You can also cancel this claim at any time in the Resolution Center. If we don’t hear from you before the deadline, the case will be closed and you will not receive your refund.

Sincerely,

PayPal

[imadunatic]

Yeah, the guy on Friday I talked to specifically stated that it was on the seller to issue a return label for an "item not as described" claim. Obviously that was verbal and apparently wrong??? 

I specifically asked about it because in the old days this was one way scammers would just "get away with it" was because trackable shipping to China is ridiculously expensive.

So the only hope is that the seller doesn't respond and Ebay/Paypal refunds your money and you get to keep your "compressor"?

[imadunatic]

Sure enough:

    Buyer Responsibilities

5.1 Timelines

The Buyer must reply to any questions asked by PayPal in regards to the PayPal Buyer Protection Claim within 10 days. PayPal will decline the Claim if the Buyer does not provide an answer within the given timeframe. PayPal may extend this timeframe in case of extraordinary circumstances which are outside the control of the Buyer.

5.2 Return of Item to Seller

When the Buyer files a Claim for PayPal Buyer Protection because the item received significantly differs from the Seller's item description, the Buyer is required upon request of PayPal to return the item at his own expenses to the Seller or to another person or address as requested by PayPal during the Claim process, as well as to provide appropriate proof of shipment. The proof of shipment needs to contain at least the details required in the PayPal Seller Protection Policy for a proof of shipment of the Seller. PayPal will not request such return if there is the reasonable suspicion that the return of the item would result in a violation of existing law. PayPal reserves the right to request further documentation from the Buyer to support the Claim. The Buyer has to bear any costs that may arise from this request.

[imadunatic]

Might be better to just stick with ebay, this is their policy on it:

Return shipping charges

Either you or the buyer is responsible for return shipping charges, as specified in your return policy, except when an item is being returned because it isn't as described in the listing. In this instance, you pay the return shipping charges.

When you're responsible for return shipping charges

When you're responsible for return shipping charges, the charges are included on your next monthly seller invoice as a fee. These fees may be charged to your automatic payment method on file.

If the buyer uses alternative shipping arrangements, you need to reimburse the buyer for the agreed-upon shipping costs outside the returns process. You can send payment to the buyer through PayPal or another payment method.

When you use a label provided by eBay, your USPS return shipping rate is never more than the original outbound rate, provided that you purchase eBay-generated shipping labels for both the original shipment and the return.

[packard8]

Sure enough:

    Buyer Responsibilities

5.1 Timelines

The Buyer must reply to any questions asked by PayPal in regards to the PayPal Buyer Protection Claim within 10 days. PayPal will decline the Claim if the Buyer does not provide an answer within the given timeframe. PayPal may extend this timeframe in case of extraordinary circumstances which are outside the control of the Buyer.

5.2 Return of Item to Seller

When the Buyer files a Claim for PayPal Buyer Protection because the item received significantly differs from the Seller's item description, the Buyer is required upon request of PayPal to return the item at his own expenses to the Seller or to another person or address as requested by PayPal during the Claim process, as well as to provide appropriate proof of shipment. The proof of shipment needs to contain at least the details required in the PayPal Seller Protection Policy for a proof of shipment of the Seller. PayPal will not request such return if there is the reasonable suspicion that the return of the item would result in a violation of existing law. PayPal reserves the right to request further documentation from the Buyer to support the Claim. The Buyer has to bear any costs that may arise from this request.

Yep, bottom line is that the PayPal and eBay "Buyer Protection" is basically worthless. In this case the buyer will have to spend $57 (maybe more to China?) to send the worthless item back and MAYBE  get a partial refund 30 days or later? I am pursuing this thru my CC company and bank, and will be reporting a negative issue with the BBB

[imadunatic]

Yep, bottom line is that the PayPal and eBay "Buyer Protection" is basically worthless. In this case the buyer will have to spend $57 (maybe more to China?) to send the worthless item back and MAYBE  get a partial refund 30 days or later? I am pursuing this thru my CC company and bank, and will be reporting a negative issue with the BBB

John,

Ebay's policy is that the seller pays for the return shipping on item not as described case.. that must have been where I got my wires crossed (I talked to Ebay first, a beer or 2 later, I talked to paypal, it muddied my memory! LOL)

http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/return-process.html

[Norm_m]

OK I also ordered one of these compressors and went through EBay's policy for refunds for our issue with the seller.
1 - On Sept 5th I sent the seller a request for a refund as there was no way that the compressor would fit into an EPacket
2 - After the required 5 day wait for the seller to respond (which we all knew that was not going to happen) I asked E Bay to step in. Now they sent the seller a message and again E Bay and I had to wait 5 days to see if the seller would reply.
3 - after that 5 day wait I contacted E Bay again and was told I would need to wait another 2 days and to call E Bay back then.
4 - OK I was getting a bit upset but I was at the mercy of EBay so I decided to call PayPal to explain the situation and ask them for a refund. I was told that since I opened the complaint with E Bay I had to go through them 1st till they finished their process.
5 - I waited a couple of days and on Thurs. Sept 14th I called EBay once again and once again I got a reply that I had to wait 2 more days
6 - So on the Sat the16th I called E Bay again and was told the claim could be settled and closed the next day
7 - Sept. 18th I called E Bay again as I forgot to call on the 17th and this time I was told the claim would be closed and I would have a refund within 24 hours to the Credit Card that was used in my PayPal account
8 - I checked my Credit Card info on Sept 18th at 7 PM and my $200 Credit had been applied at 5:09 PM

I totally understand that E Bay has to protect the seller as well as the buyer so they do need to be fair to both. The 1st two process after I asked the seller for a refund took 10 days, 5 for me and 5 for EBay to wait to see if the seller would respond. In my opinion this was totally acceptable as it gives the buyer and E Bay each a fair 5 day wait for the seller to respond. The difficult part is as being the buyer and knowing this is a fraud it seems like a waste time.

All in all a 13 day wait, which could have been 10 or 12 if I had contacted E Bay a little sooner between steps is not all that bad.

Norm

[Sprungout]

Yay, just got off the phone with Ebay... full refund will be in my Paypal account within 48 hours. They didn't give me any nonsense this time, saw that the seller did not issue a return for the steel coin by the 19th and promptly issued the refund. Took a total of about 2 minutes after the 6 minute initial wait. I'm glad I was patient and didn't do anything stupid besides buy the compressor to begin with. I hope anyone else still waiting on a refund has the same experience, it was basically all total BS but I got my money back and that's what matters most. I will be more careful in the future...