308 stock texan long range accuracy?

[dreuf]

I am only a paper puncher looking for the best long range accuracy.
I plan to buy a 308 texan to shoot out to 500 yards but after hours of research I fail to find any good feedback on long range accuracy for this gun

I plan to shoot cast bullets from 115gr up to 150gr regarding the barrel twist.

I do not want to throw out my hard earn money for a lemon.
I will also have to sell my fx boss which is a very nice gun out to 150 yards to finance the texan.

I live in Europe and there is other very good big bore guns but the cost is prohibitive (drummen sinner or beaumont), hence the texan seems the way to go for me.

Many thanks in advance for users feedback.

[UpNorthAirGunner]

After a lot of tinkering and making my own DIY shroud to give it some rigidity and dampen the harmonics, I have been able to get my .357 better at 100+ yards.  Like Nick Neilson and others have pointed out though - I think the entire Texan line has some harmonics / twist rate issues.   The tinkering continues!   

[rintafile]

I live in Europe and there is other very good big bore guns but the cost is prohibitive (drummen sinner or beaumont), hence the texan seems the way to go for me.
Many thanks in advance for users feedback.

Depends where in EU You live have You thought it will cost some serious money to shipping fees, taxes, custom fees etc.. Just pointing out.

[dreuf]

I live in Europe and there is other very good big bore guns but the cost is prohibitive (drummen sinner or beaumont), hence the texan seems the way to go for me.
Many thanks in advance for users feedback.

Depends where in EU You live have You thought it will cost some serious money to shipping fees, taxes, custom fees etc.. Just pointing out.

Airforce texan airguns are available here in EU(labelled Gunpower instead of airforce) so no trouble with custom and so on....

If I lived in the US I would go for an AAA slayer 308 for sure but those wonderfull big bores are not available here :/

[rintafile]

If I lived in the US I would go for an AAA slayer 308 for sure but those wonderfull big bores are not available here :/

Ok so hs Gunpower has also .30 cal airguns? Or are You planning to build one?

You can buy AAA slayer .308 but there is those fees....Airgunexporter.com that company will handel buying and shipping from USA to EU...
I ordered 2013 if I recal correctly Quackenbush LA Outlaw .458 from USA and Airgunexporter make it possible. Vincent is very nice fellow. So if You really want that is a option
http://airgunexporter.com/

[nielsenammo]

I have shot both rifles.  Don't waste your money on the .308 AF gun.  I have one in my garage now.  Doug Noble has worked on it, I have shot lots of different rounds through it, both mine and others and it is very disappointing.  I believe it has barrel harmonic issues.  Shoot off the regulator and the gun all over the place.  If you do buy it, make sure you or someone you can go to is a machinist that can tinker with it to get it to shoot good.

[dyotat100]

Nick I gave it to you before I had time to mess with it.

 I don't understand why the valve has a such a large top hat gap. I only have .085"-.090" gap and I can make 300 fpe with 171 gr. When I get the gun back I will mess with the valve.

What's funny is my 2 308's work great. Even before I made them even stronger on the frame.

[nielsenammo]

I think it is more than the valve because the gun is disappointing even on a tether.  The shroud helped but still no tack driver.  If you are looking for an accurate bench gun, this is not the gun IMO.  Ron wanted me to take it coyote hunting this weekend but the gun is too unpredictable off the bottle to trust taking it.

[dreuf]

If I lived in the US I would go for an AAA slayer 308 for sure but those wonderfull big bores are not available here :/

Ok so hs Gunpower has also .30 cal airguns? Or are You planning to build one?

You can buy AAA slayer .308 but there is those fees....Airgunexporter.com that company will handel buying and shipping from USA to EU...
I ordered 2013 if I recal correctly Quackenbush LA Outlaw .458 from USA and Airgunexporter make it possible. Vincent is very nice fellow. So if You really want that is a option

Gunpower is the brand name for airforce airgun here in EU. The 308 texan is available in EU now.

I have checked for airgun exporter to get a slayer but when I add fees + custom + local fees it easily goes over my budget (around 50% more than the US price).

[dreuf]

I have shot both rifles.  Don't waste your money on the .308 AF gun.  I have one in my garage now.  Doug Noble has worked on it, I have shot lots of different rounds through it, both mine and others and it is very disappointing.  I believe it has barrel harmonic issues.  Shoot off the regulator and the gun all over the place.  If you do buy it, make sure you or someone you can go to is a machinist that can tinker with it to get it to shoot good.

Many thanks for your honest feedback, I will for sure avoid this gun for extreme lang range paper punching.
What about the .45 version? Does it achieve out of the box nice accuracy at extreme long range (400 to 600 yards)?

[rintafile]

I have checked for airgun exporter to get a slayer but when I add fees + custom + local fees it easily goes over my budget (around 50% more than the US price).

That is a problem when You export airgun from USA to EU... Question is how hard You wan't something.... I really want that DAQ .458 so I was willing to pay bills... But in EU we never get same price level just because of in USA there is much bigger volume of dealers etc. and many EU coutries has law restricting Airguns by caliber or power. Example Finland. All over 6.35mm needs license

Answer You question concerning .45... If You search user carl50's post He is shooting pretty far with Texan .45 . Can't remember if it was out of box or not....

[tnt76]

Nick I gave it to you before I had time to mess with it.

 I don't understand why the valve has a such a large top hat gap. I only have .085"-.090" gap and I can make 300 fpe with 171 gr. When I get the gun back I will mess with the valve.

What's funny is my 2 308's work great. Even before I made them even stronger on the frame.

Doug, I've seen some pics of badly stepped leade's in the AF .308's, is that something you have on your hit list?

[dyotat100]

Yeah I had the gun here to look over but hadn't had time. Was going to fix the leade so a bullet fit in better and deeper

 

[tnt76]

Dyotat100, any chance you have had a chance to tweak the texan 308 yet?

[UpNorthAirGunner]

After a fair amount of tinkering and some barrel work, I was able to really tighten up the groups with the .308 - but it took some real focused time of trial and error.  My barrel work consisted of leade cut for better seating of the bullets - re-crown - and fire lapping.  Shooting 135 and 155 grain bullets and differing pressures from 2500-3200 I could go from shooting almost 1 inch (MOA) at 100 yards to having 3.5 inch groups and point of impact shifting all over the place.  Other than the barrel work the guts of the gun are totally stock.  I am going to be adding a Mad Dog stock and a carbon fiber sleeve to replace the tuning donut thing I have on there now. 

This final group was 2500 PSI with a 155 grain Spitzer from Hunters Supply.  SUPER hold sensitive too.  At least on this day I found that holding with super light shooting pressure and pushing the butt stock into my shoulder with my non-shooting hand got me the best grouping.  I hope the Mad Dog stock helps with the hold sensitivity.  I can tell you that putting the stock onto my .45 turned it into an entirely different gun.

[Tofazfou]

After a fair amount of tinkering and some barrel work, I was able to really tighten up the groups with the .308 - but it took some real focused time of trial and error.  My barrel work consisted of leade cut for better seating of the bullets - re-crown - and fire lapping.  Shooting 135 and 155 grain bullets and differing pressures from 2500-3200 I could go from shooting almost 1 inch (MOA) at 100 yards to having 3.5 inch groups and point of impact shifting all over the place.  Other than the barrel work the guts of the gun are totally stock.  I am going to be adding a Mad Dog stock and a carbon fiber sleeve to replace the tuning donut thing I have on there now. 

This final group was 2500 PSI with a 155 grain Spitzer from Hunters Supply.  SUPER hold sensitive too.  At least on this day I found that holding with super light shooting pressure and pushing the butt stock into my shoulder with my non-shooting hand got me the best grouping.  I hope the Mad Dog stock helps with the hold sensitivity.  I can tell you that putting the stock onto my .45 turned it into an entirely different gun.

Ahhhhhhh, i see your starting to get the jist of why we tinker and tune these things...........lol.  Many stock airguns need work from the jump