New Diana Stormrider does not look cheap

[avator]

YES!  A $169.00 Varmint (same rifle, just $30 cheaper) and a $60.00 Walmart Hand Pump, and you are on your way down the Rabbit Hole! 

Varmint:  http://yhst-139878093962642.stores.yahoo.net/airmaxvapcpc.html

Hand Pump:  https://www.walmart.com/ip/High-Pressure-PCP-Air-Rifle-Hand-Pump-3-Stage-Stirrup-Charging-Gas-Filter-Gauge-Valve-Hose-PCP-Pump-Up-to-4500-psi/419079574

Has anyone tried this pump? I have bicycle pumps that cost way more than that....wonder what the quality is.

It's the same pump as the $72 Chinese pump that everyone was talking about a couple months ago. I have one and it works just fine. I don't use it much at all but, it's great for back up.

[roj]

Doesn't Diana risk watering down their top-notch German brand by putting their name on an inexpensive Chinese?

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Doesn't Diana risk watering down their top-notch German brand by putting their name on an inexpensive Chinese?

No.

First off, they are not the topper-most of the top-notch German guns, anyway, and they have no directly competing PCP design of their own. Besides, these guns look and perform like entry-level German guns, regardless of being from China.

This is a trend we shall benefit from again and again as we move forward, we'll have a LOT more choices for low-dollar, high-performance equipment before too long..

I bet SPA builds these for under $20 each, and sells them wholesale for about $50-60...

Now that the designs are proving themselves, expect more saturation and price drops.

We up in da high cotton now, fellas. Live big, live cheap!

[avator]

I don't think so but, it does give a hint of insight.

[avator]

IMO... one of the biggest improvements to the "Chinese" lines of guns is hands down the triggers. These are the same people who gave us the Industry Brand.... can you say B1-X to B5-X?.... Cummins Tool Truck?

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Curious, the Diana at the top of the thread looks to have enough room to add a shroud, but Wayne's pic looks to have a tighter gap between barrel and airtube.  Is that a change in design? or artifact of Wayne's pic? 

Has someone (David?) already fitted it with a shroud/baffles?

Rocker1 (David) has awesomely effective LDCs for these. I have his hushers on both of mine, they look great, too..

My .22 Varmint is just a 'sneeze' and a 'whop' when the pellet smacks whatever ya aimin' at, ha ha. The .177, just a tad louder, but still very quiet overall...

Justanuthajoe,

This is a great 'first' PCP, especially with all the guys here that can help if there is a problem. Highly recommended!!

:-) chickie

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IMO... one of the biggest improvements to the "Chinese" lines of guns is hands down the triggers. These are the same people who gave us the Industry Brand.... can you say B1-X to B5-X?.... Cummins Tool Truck?

Those days are coming to an end..

When I was little, my daddy used to rail about 'cheap Japanese' products. Now? Japanese products are often the leading edge of design and quality.

Same with Turkish guns, same with most all Eastern European guns. The world is changing, and we can change with it, or be left behind. My daddy never got over his feelings about Japanese products, and it was his loss, really...

My momma bought a Japanese car after daddy passed with his money, ha ha! We've been laughing about that at family reunions for a looong time, lol..

[avator]

It's amazing... when everyone else is going cheaper and cheaper.. these guys are raising the bar.

[Wayne52]

Bill this is probably the one that you're talking about, this think is all stainless too, it' s one of the water cooled ones.  I remember one guy dumped the water out of his and he said it didn't get any hotter than it did before he emptied it.

[USAFANG6799]

Bill this is probably the one that you're talking about, this think is all stainless too, it' s one of the water cooled ones.  I remember one guy dumped the water out of his and he said it didn't get any hotter than it did before he emptied it.

This is the one I just bought a WW.
Water for cooling? It doesn't mentioned anything about having water for cooling or are you just trying to be funny 
I'm using it to top off my PCP when my SCUBA tank gets lower than 3000 psi. Working just fine for that.

[USAFANG6799]

Tyler from PA........his review.

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Tyler from PA........his review.

That was a well-done review, nice! Lotsa correct data, not all hyped-up, and with a fair final assessment of the gun...

Thanks for sharing!

[ezman604]

Our very own Tpatner412.

Tyler does a great job here and at PA. He's been doing great unbiased video reviews for a while.
Proud to have him as a member for several years and as a member of Team GTA.

[USAFANG6799]

Didn't know Tyler was a member of GTA.
Good to hear.

[avator]

Yes Wayne, that's the one.
I've seen Tyler jump right in and satisfy the most unhappy customer right in the open forum. He's a straight shooter and does what he says he'll do. Don't take his kindness as weakness... if he can do it he will. If he can't, he won't say he can.
We are a better place having him here.

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

Bill this is probably the one that you're talking about, this think is all stainless too, it' s one of the water cooled ones.  I remember one guy dumped the water out of his and he said it didn't get any hotter than it did before he emptied it.

That looks like the one I have also, but I don't think it's water cooled, unless I'm using it outside, in the rain!  So far it have worked great.  I did have a bit of an air leak when I first got it, but it may have been my fault for not tightening the gauge enough when I installed it.  The seller had me disassemble it and clean an o-ring, which I did at the same time I retightened everything, including the gauge.  It has not leaked since, so I'm not sure if it was the o-ring, the gauge not being tightened enough, or a combination of both! 

[K.O.]

I do not like high mounting scopes and it looks like it would have to be single shot mode for me... but a 2900 psi fill over the Disco's 2000 psi is a big plus for it...

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

YES!  A $169.00 Varmint (same rifle, just $30 cheaper) and a $60.00 Walmart Hand Pump, and you are on your way down the Rabbit Hole! 

Varmint:  http://yhst-139878093962642.stores.yahoo.net/airmaxvapcpc.html

Hand Pump:  https://www.walmart.com/ip/High-Pressure-PCP-Air-Rifle-Hand-Pump-3-Stage-Stirrup-Charging-Gas-Filter-Gauge-Valve-Hose-PCP-Pump-Up-to-4500-psi/419079574

Has anyone tried this pump? I have bicycle pumps that cost way more than that....wonder what the quality is.

This is the one I bought:  http://amzn.to/2uyyBf3

It was $65.99 when I bought it.  I think it's the same one that I linked from Walmart above.  Regardless, it's a great price for anyone looking to get started with PCP.  For comparison, my trip down the Rabbit Hole started with the Benjamin Maximus Starter Kit that includes the Benjamin Hand Pump.  Using the 25% off code and free shipping Friday, it cost me $262.49.  The Varmint/Chinese pump combo would be about $229. 

[Ribbonstone]

HAve two of the cheapish Chinese pumps.  One of them (not totally cheap then)  about 2 1/2 -3 years of use (still works) and the other about 1 - 1 1/2 years of use.   Pretty much only use those and there are a lot of PCP's to fill.


Neglected the Hill pump during all this....which seems to have died from neglect rather than use...needs to be taken apart and at least cleaned if not rebuilt.

[avator]

YES!  A $169.00 Varmint (same rifle, just $30 cheaper) and a $60.00 Walmart Hand Pump, and you are on your way down the Rabbit Hole! 

Varmint:  http://yhst-139878093962642.stores.yahoo.net/airmaxvapcpc.html

Hand Pump:  https://www.walmart.com/ip/High-Pressure-PCP-Air-Rifle-Hand-Pump-3-Stage-Stirrup-Charging-Gas-Filter-Gauge-Valve-Hose-PCP-Pump-Up-to-4500-psi/419079574

Has anyone tried this pump? I have bicycle pumps that cost way more than that....wonder what the quality is.

This is the one I bought:  http://amzn.to/2uyyBf3

It was $65.99 when I bought it.  I think it's the same one that I linked from Walmart above.  Regardless, it's a great price for anyone looking to get started with PCP.  For comparison, my trip down the Rabbit Hole started with the Benjamin Maximus Starter Kit that includes the Benjamin Hand Pump.  Using the 25% off code and free shipping Friday, it cost me $262.49.  The Varmint/Chinese pump combo would be about $229.

Paul. we'll have to look up that video were the guy is tearing one down and putting it back together but, they definitely are water cooled. Yours may have lost it's water. I have heard some folks say they dumped the water and it still don't badly overheat. I know water in an air pump don't sound quite right but they have a separate water jacket and there is no danger of the cooling water getting in your gun.