MRodAir Air Max Varmint in .177

[avator]

I know it's the Varmint thread but, I'll sneak in a couple pics of the Texas Toothpick here. This thing is mouse fart quiet. A hammer drop and lead on target. Looks like it's going to be quite accurate at 30yds once everything settles in. First pic is the overall gun and second shows the picatinny rail on the bottom of the barrel band.
LOL.... it also shows a couple marks on the barrel where the band was when it was on the Varmint. That's a lot of barrel hanging out there in the wind.... ya think?

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

He don't stock them. We talked about breaking up a couple guns to create some spare parts and that's what I was going to receive when he sent the CP-2. I don't know if he still plans to break and guns up. Last I talked to him, he was trying to get SPA to send him barrels and such. He said it was like pulling teeth. As these things become more available in the US market it will be interesting to see what they will do about spares. I have a feeling that barrels will become more of an aftermarket item made here in the US. As some of us have already discovered, barrels cannot be purchased from SPA due to restrictions on importing certain gun parts. A work around may be to go through a registered gun dealer. I'm going to talk to my buddy that owns our local pawn shop. He is a registered gun dealer. Maybe he can order a few barrels from SPA.

I shot Mike an e-mail asking about the parts since Wes mentioned that Mike mentioned he may be getting a load of parts in.  He's been pretty good about replying to emails in the past.  If I don't hear back by next week, I'll give him a call...

[Wayne52]

Paul there's a post in one of the SPA threads Mike said he was getting in a shipment of parts.

[avator]

He's on the "slow boat from China" program too. Air freight ain't much better. I just got a holographic red dot air freight and it took 3 weeks +.

[Ribbonstone]

SPA (MrodAir) Family (so far).  Been a few changes from last posting.

May be "inexpensive working man's tools", but I'm not bashful becasue of it.

[avator]

Well, look at you go Ribbs.
Fun stuff huh?
Crosman REALLY needs to offer a low cost repeater breech for the "lego" guns.

[Ribbonstone]

Depends on what you want to do.

Plinking/offhand/just fun...take the smallerst little cut down .177 CP1 c02 pistol for it's 5.8foot pounds  (7.33gr. At 600fps)and 40-45 good-shots per 12gr.

Or take the .177 "Plinkster" for it's  9.4 foot pounds (8.4gr. @ 710fps). for about 30 shots on one 12gr. (so long as it's warm out)

Move upto 15 foot pounds, take the Converted  .22 PP700 carbine/pistol for 15.9gr. @ 625  for about 31-35 shots.

Coud move into 23.6 foot pounds with the .177 "varminter", which will heave 16.2gr. .177 pellets at 810fps for about 23-24 shots.

Or if you're really angry, and want to poke a deep hole (though and through) in something big, can take that big long .22 M10 and sling 34gr. pellets (or slugs) at it for 815fps and about 50 foot pounds.


So ok...5.8 to 50 foot pounds, in uneven steps, but what use got missed?

[WesBob]

That's awesome Ribbonstone! Great collection! Maybe a 25 calibre M16 to fill in the 30-40fpe gap? ☺️

[Ribbonstone]

Trajectory? 

There isn't enough difference in the .177 16.2gr. and the .22 25.4gr. at nearly the same speed to really hang your hat on.  Certainly is a difference in energy, but that energy "advantage"  depends on what you are shooting at more than what you are shooting with.

[gunlocators]

Cool

[Wayne52]

Very nice collection you've got there Ribbonstone !!!

[Techie]

I'd really like to have that stock for my PP700SA.  What's it take to get one?

[Wolverineshooter]

Fantastic collection. I just got my first SPA, PP700SA.

[Sfttailrdr46]

Fantastic collection. I just got my first SPA, PP700SA.

You are going to fall in love they are fun to shoot and when it all comes together capable of single ragged hole at 10 yards. I play with mine several times a week

[2K1TJ]

SPA (MrodAir) Family (so far).  Been a few changes from last posting.

May be "inexpensive working man's tools", but I'm not bashful becasue of it.

Nice looking collection there. Nothing to be bashful about at all!

[2K1TJ]

Crosman REALLY needs to offer a low cost repeater breech for the "lego" guns.

Has anybody had their SPA breech off and seen what it looks like underneath? Wonder if it could be (practically) modded to fit a Crosman tube?

[avator]

Crosman REALLY needs to offer a low cost repeater breech for the "lego" guns.

Has anybody had their SPA breech off and seen what it looks like underneath? Wonder if it could be (practically) modded to fit a Crosman tube?

Had it off... thought about it... never looked close enough because what I have now in the  SPA guns eliminates the need.... for me. The TP size may be one issue. The bolt lug location may be another. Just from memory...

[WesBob]

Here is a plinkster (cr600w) tube (which uses same breech as varmint) and a 1322 scrap tube (same layout as 2240 except smaller diameter tube). You can see they are quite different from in amount of space for the hammer and spring. The breech would be too long unless you drilled holes further up on the tube and I doubt you could make a crosman trigger work at all, though I could be mistaken.

[2K1TJ]

Thanks, Bill and Wes.

[WesBob]

Thanks, Bill and Wes.

Sorry for the terrible pictures, just looked at them myself now and can't hardly see anything, lol.